Russia girls are amazing!

[CarolynRitesh 0]

Wow Bobalouie, tell me more!! I would never have thought of Oklahoma City as a place to be, but one of the job possibilities for Ritesh is in Oklahoma City, and that housing market alone is appealing! (Plus, it is a centralized jumping off point from which to explore the US!)

[Corey-Mariya 14]

And like I said before, I'd rather spend my money "living" in California then on a taxi ride from SVO2 to SVO1

Just had to take that joyful taxi ride last sunday

[Gaby&Talbert 1]

Any midwest city will be less expensive than California to live. Northwest Arkansas is even less expensive than Oklahoma City. A big factor to consider is when you have children, what type of environment do you want them to grow up in? Big cities in the midwest will have some problems. I guess if you are from a large city and like that type of environment then you probably would not be happy in a small city. If you are concerned about cost of living I would not choose the Gulf Coast areas because insurance will kill you.

[slim 1,534]

I actually have some friends who immigrated to Connecticut (Stamford) from Russia about a year ago who are about to go back because they can't stand it here. I really hope that Ira will be happy here with me. This country has so many problems that I'm not often happy here (but, then again, I also watch way too much news and get way too involved in political discourse).

If Ira loves you she will be happy to be here with you. However, she will also let you know (sometimes numerous times a day!) how unhappy she is to be in the U.S.A. Yet, she'll stay.

As far as changing the country, good luck. I'm under the impression now that the die is cast. We're going to be blissfully unaware all the way up until the very end and then we're going to collectively asked "what happened?" (Only it'll be in Chinese or something.)

My father married a ukrainian woman 21 years his junior about 8 years ago. Although she came to the states on a K1 visa, she can't understand why I would want to marry a Turkish man (or any man) who didn't make atleast $100,000 a year.

If they've made it 8 years, they're obviously both getting exactly what they want from the relationship. Hats off to them! (Even if she did marry him for the money and her married her for the, ah, well, what did her marry her for? Oh. That's right... who cares, she's 21 years his junior! Way to go old guy!)

[JULIAFERNO 0]

If they've made it 8 years, they're obviously both getting exactly what they want from the relationship. Hats off to them! (Even if she did marry him for the money and her married her for the, ah, well, what did her marry her for? Oh. That's right... who cares, she's 21 years his junior! Way to go old guy!)

Hahaha! Very true. She could easily be my sister!

I do have an adorable baby brother and 4 year old sister now! I CAN'T complain about that!

Amazingly, my brother is married to a first generation Turk. I guess cross-cultural marriages are just in our genes.

Edited April 9, 2008 by JULIAFERNO

[slim 1,534]

Amazingly, my brother is married to a first generation Turk. I guess cross-cultural marriages are just in our genes.

It's always intriguing, but then when it's acceptable, even encouraged, it's hard not to!

[joelunchbox 0]

Wow Bobalouie, tell me more!! I would never have thought of Oklahoma City as a place to be, but one of the job possibilities for Ritesh is in Oklahoma City, and that housing market alone is appealing! (Plus, it is a centralized jumping off point from which to explore the US!)

I lived in OKC for five years. Five miserable years. The drivers in that city are the worst I have ever had to deal with. I thought for a while it might just be me but my son (born in OKC) had to drive up from TX to OKC and then on to TN. When he got back, he swore he would NEVER drive to/through Oklahoma-in particular, OKC- again.

I don't care how cheap it is to live somewhere, if you are scared/angry every time you get out of your car--IT AIN'T WORTH IT!!!

Texas is slipping too. But you will still come up on a REAL Texan, who will pull onto the shoulder to let you pass. That is good/compassionate driving!

[Bobalouie 0]

Wow Bobalouie, tell me more!! I would never have thought of Oklahoma City as a place to be, but one of the job possibilities for Ritesh is in Oklahoma City, and that housing market alone is appealing! (Plus, it is a centralized jumping off point from which to explore the US!)

I lived in OKC for five years. Five miserable years. The drivers in that city are the worst I have ever had to deal with. I thought for a while it might just be me but my son (born in OKC) had to drive up from TX to OKC and then on to TN. When he got back, he swore he would NEVER drive to/through Oklahoma-in particular, OKC- again.

I don't care how cheap it is to live somewhere, if you are scared/angry every time you get out of your car--IT AIN'T WORTH IT!!!

Texas is slipping too. But you will still come up on a REAL Texan, who will pull onto the shoulder to let you pass. That is good/compassionate driving!

Well, now you know why Texans and Oklahomans dont get along so good. You damn Texans cant drive fast enough to stay out of peoples way!

[joelunchbox 0]

Wow Bobalouie, tell me more!! I would never have thought of Oklahoma City as a place to be, but one of the job possibilities for Ritesh is in Oklahoma City, and that housing market alone is appealing! (Plus, it is a centralized jumping off point from which to explore the US!)

I lived in OKC for five years. Five miserable years. The drivers in that city are the worst I have ever had to deal with. I thought for a while it might just be me but my son (born in OKC) had to drive up from TX to OKC and then on to TN. When he got back, he swore he would NEVER drive to/through Oklahoma-in particular, OKC- again.

I don't care how cheap it is to live somewhere, if you are scared/angry every time you get out of your car--IT AIN'T WORTH IT!!!

Texas is slipping too. But you will still come up on a REAL Texan, who will pull onto the shoulder to let you pass. That is good/compassionate driving!

Well, now you know why Texans and Oklahomans dont get along so good. You damn Texans cant drive fast enough to stay out of peoples way!

Speed has nothing to do with BAD DRIVING. Oh, I didn't mention the almost being run into a guard rail by a diesel...oh forget it. You like it, you can live there. But, next time you drive somewhere--actually think about the drive. I like to enjoy my driving--and I am seldom under the speed limit, either.

I lived in Okinawa for three and half years also--that was heaven compared to OKC. They were good drivers who happened to drive fast and close to other drivers. Oklahoma seems to have a preponderance of REALLY BAD DRIVERS driving fast. Bad situation made worse.

Look around--am I lying?

[slim 1,534]

But you will still come up on a REAL Texan, who will pull onto the shoulder to let you pass. That is good/compassionate driving!

That is the dumbest $#!t in the world. I drove through Texas a couple years back and whenever someone would turn out in front of me, WAAAAY in front of me, they would immediately pull off and drive on the shoulder. (Usually creating a big dust cloud and most often also creating a situation where one car was driving with a tire or two in the dirt and a tire or two on the pavement, swerving in and out of control, just barely staying where they were trying to stay and the other car overtaking them at high speed, now forced to pass within inches.)

If you have time to pull out in front of someone, then you have time to get up to speed. If you don't have time to pull out in front of someone and get up to speed...... WAIT!!!! You can turn after they pass. It works in the other 49 states. It should work in Texas too!

But, then again, half the dumb $#!t they do in Texas is done in a self-imposed attempt to stay "different" than everyone else. (And bigger too. #######?)

I'll always give Texas some leeway (and the shoulder) because of their pro-2A stance. But, if they ever started letting criminals who got shot in victim's homes win lawsuits, I'm afraid I'd have to start putting them in the same boat as SoCal, and nobody wants that, not even Oklahoma. "Same boat as SoCal?...... Now that's just mean."

[Bobalouie 0]

Wow Bobalouie, tell me more!! I would never have thought of Oklahoma City as a place to be, but one of the job possibilities for Ritesh is in Oklahoma City, and that housing market alone is appealing! (Plus, it is a centralized jumping off point from which to explore the US!)

I lived in OKC for five years. Five miserable years. The drivers in that city are the worst I have ever had to deal with. I thought for a while it might just be me but my son (born in OKC) had to drive up from TX to OKC and then on to TN. When he got back, he swore he would NEVER drive to/through Oklahoma-in particular, OKC- again.

I don't care how cheap it is to live somewhere, if you are scared/angry every time you get out of your car--IT AIN'T WORTH IT!!!

Texas is slipping too. But you will still come up on a REAL Texan, who will pull onto the shoulder to let you pass. That is good/compassionate driving!

Well, now you know why Texans and Oklahomans dont get along so good. You damn Texans cant drive fast enough to stay out of peoples way!

Speed has nothing to do with BAD DRIVING. Oh, I didn't mention the almost being run into a guard rail by a diesel...oh forget it. You like it, you can live there. But, next time you drive somewhere--actually think about the drive. I like to enjoy my driving--and I am seldom under the speed limit, either.

I lived in Okinawa for three and half years also--that was heaven compared to OKC. They were good drivers who happened to drive fast and close to other drivers. Oklahoma seems to have a preponderance of REALLY BAD DRIVERS driving fast. Bad situation made worse.

Look around--am I lying?

Wow, almost run into a guard rail by a diesel. Hmm, wonder if he was licenced in OK and lived here, or maybe somewhere else? (You know, since I-40, I-35, and I-44 carry interstate traffic from everywhere) Its not like that kinda stuff doesnt happen everywhere. I dont think OKC is the black hole of diesel accidents involving motorists and gaurd rails.

I think you would be hard pressed to find "good drivers" in any major metro area. I am sure that Atlanta, New York, Miami and even Houston are paragons of driving ability. I actually see about the same number of crashes here as I do in other cities when I travel. I am sure that statistics would show no major difference between OKC and any other place. Sorry you didnt like it here, glad you are in a place you enjoy now.

Edited April 11, 2008 by Bobalouie

[Okiebollweevil 0]

Wow Bobalouie, tell me more!! I would never have thought of Oklahoma City as a place to be, but one of the job possibilities for Ritesh is in Oklahoma City, and that housing market alone is appealing! (Plus, it is a centralized jumping off point from which to explore the US!)

I lived in OKC for five years. Five miserable years. The drivers in that city are the worst I have ever had to deal with. I thought for a while it might just be me but my son (born in OKC) had to drive up from TX to OKC and then on to TN. When he got back, he swore he would NEVER drive to/through Oklahoma-in particular, OKC- again.

I don't care how cheap it is to live somewhere, if you are scared/angry every time you get out of your car--IT AIN'T WORTH IT!!!

Texas is slipping too. But you will still come up on a REAL Texan, who will pull onto the shoulder to let you pass. That is good/compassionate driving!

Joe, my wife learned to drive in OKC and we always are amazed at the dumb things people do. I have lived here for 32 years and am probably used to it, but if you ever want to drive in a bad driver city try New Orleans. I lived there for a year and in New Orleans you have to abide by the 10 second rule in order to avoid an accident, you have to wait ten seconds before you proceed on a green light to avoid the red light runners. As to OKC bad drivers, they are actually very good drivers, they are just avoiding all the potholes in the roads and the other person's car be damned, or their car needs repair and your nice car looks like it might be insured (1 in 4 in Oklahoma aren't so you have to choose your "victim" carefully)!

[eekee 182]

If housing is so cheap, why aren't more people insured drivers?

to avoid an accident, you have to wait ten seconds before you proceed on a green light to avoid the red light runners. As to OKC bad drivers, they are actually very good drivers, they are just avoiding all the potholes in the roads and the other person's car be damned, or their car needs repair and your nice car looks like it might be insured (1 in 4 in Oklahoma aren't so you have to choose your "victim" carefully)!

[joelunchbox 0]

Wow Bobalouie, tell me more!! I would never have thought of Oklahoma City as a place to be, but one of the job possibilities for Ritesh is in Oklahoma City, and that housing market alone is appealing! (Plus, it is a centralized jumping off point from which to explore the US!)

I lived in OKC for five years. Five miserable years. The drivers in that city are the worst I have ever had to deal with. I thought for a while it might just be me but my son (born in OKC) had to drive up from TX to OKC and then on to TN. When he got back, he swore he would NEVER drive to/through Oklahoma-in particular, OKC- again.

I don't care how cheap it is to live somewhere, if you are scared/angry every time you get out of your car--IT AIN'T WORTH IT!!!

Texas is slipping too. But you will still come up on a REAL Texan, who will pull onto the shoulder to let you pass. That is good/compassionate driving!

Well, now you know why Texans and Oklahomans dont get along so good. You damn Texans cant drive fast enough to stay out of peoples way!

Speed has nothing to do with BAD DRIVING. Oh, I didn't mention the almost being run into a guard rail by a diesel...oh forget it. You like it, you can live there. But, next time you drive somewhere--actually think about the drive. I like to enjoy my driving--and I am seldom under the speed limit, either.

I lived in Okinawa for three and half years also--that was heaven compared to OKC. They were good drivers who happened to drive fast and close to other drivers. Oklahoma seems to have a preponderance of REALLY BAD DRIVERS driving fast. Bad situation made worse.

Look around--am I lying?

Wow, almost run into a guard rail by a diesel. Hmm, wonder if he was licenced in OK and lived here, or maybe somewhere else? (You know, since I-40, I-35, and I-44 carry interstate traffic from everywhere) Its not like that kinda stuff doesnt happen everywhere. I dont think OKC is the black hole of diesel accidents involving motorists and gaurd rails.

I think you would be hard pressed to find "good drivers" in any major metro area. I am sure that Atlanta, New York, Miami and even Houston are paragons of driving ability. I actually see about the same number of crashes here as I do in other cities when I travel. I am sure that statistics would show no major difference between OKC and any other place. Sorry you didnt like it here, glad you are in a place you enjoy now.

Didn't have time to look!

There were things I really liked about being near a big city--access to machine shops and stuff (I am a car guy). But the people I worked with in the AF at that time were ....special. And the drivers I encountered daily were --I think a good word is "aggressive". Maybe you don't see it but twenty years ago I did. I try to stay away from atalnta too! I blame it on carpetbaggers. People who don't like where they are at because of the people that live there. So they move somewhere else--but, lo and behold, it was those people that made their former cities so bad..... I try to signal early, stop gradually, not tailgate and most importantly---KNOW WHERE I AM GOING. You would think that last one would be obvious but it ain't. It is aggravating that as cars get better, the drivers seem to be getting worse! Oh my!!

[Okiebollweevil 0]

If housing is so cheap, why aren't more people insured drivers?

to avoid an accident, you have to wait ten seconds before you proceed on a green light to avoid the red light runners. As to OKC bad drivers, they are actually very good drivers, they are just avoiding all the potholes in the roads and the other person's car be damned, or their car needs repair and your nice car looks like it might be insured (1 in 4 in Oklahoma aren't so you have to choose your "victim" carefully)!

I would venture to say that the people that own homes are insured, and those that don't are looking to them for an "accident". Some apartment dwellers (a) don't drive and go shanksmare; (B) don't own cars © do own cars that breakdown frequently; (d) do own cars that they buy monthly insurance premiums for; (e) don't have insurance. Also, Oklahoma does not have mandatory vehicle safety inspection which amazes my wife as Russia does (first aid kit and fire extinguisher) I have seen Russian roads that make Oklahoma's look like the streets of Heaven, my wife constantly lauds our Oklahoma roads which is very humorous to me as I think they suck compared to adjacent states. Lifting a Minnesota joke, there are only two seasons in Russia, winter and road repair with which my wife heartily agrees.