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If McCain is nominated, some conservatives vow to turn into 'suicide voters' and vote for Hillary

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Running as a conservative, John McCain rolled up huge victories last night in New York, New Jersey and beyond.

But if history is any guide, the McCain we've seen of late on the campaign trail is the most conservative McCain we'll ever see.

He has taken a commanding lead in the GOP primary by packaging himself as the "true conservative" committed to limited government, to slashed federal spending and to an avowedly conservative Supreme Court.

He claims the mantle of Ronald Reagan. He even claims the mantle of Barry Goldwater, conservatism's crack version of Reagan. But as McCain clinches the GOP nomination, he will begin his usual leftward lurch.

He will return to his lifelong positions as soft on illegal immigration, skeptical of tax cuts and favoring strong federal control over things like campaign financing.

McCain's appeal to independents and even the left is what makes him such a powerhouse in the general election.

It is also precisely what has so many in the Republican base so wildly fearful of handing him the keys to the kingdom.

If the Republican Party expands "because we have a candidate who's going out trying to attract liberals by being like them, then the party's going to be around but you won't recognize it," thundered radio king Rush Limbaugh.

The Republican Party will "be over as it exists now," he warns.

To understand just how McCain has managed to limp to the front of the GOP field, look no further than the outcome of yesterday's West Virginia Republican Convention.

At the outset, victory was in the air for Mitt Romney, the flip-flopping former Massachusetts governor.

He is universally loathed by all the other GOP candidates, who banded together to give all their votes to Mike Huckabee - simply to deny Romney a win.

The depressing GOP field that has paved a path to victory for McCain also gave surprising wins last night to Huckabee in Georgia, Alabama and Tennessee, as well as in his home state of Arkansas.

Still, McCain has so radicalized key conservatives that some have vowed to turn themselves into suicide voters next November by pulling the lever for Hillary Rodham Clinton over him.

This last-minute blitz against McCain by Limbaugh and others, however, comes far too late.

But if those conservatives sit out the general election, they will help Democrats make history by electing either the first black president or the first female president next November.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/02062008/news/...left_852521.htm


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Doens't this happen every election, some moderates are pi$$ed at the Kerry nod, so they vote for GWB?

oops, bad example. :lol: No one (sane) voted for GWB - either rigged election).

Anyhow, whichever way the candidate leans, the other side of the party will get mad & vote for another candidate to 'make a statement' like Ralph Nader/Ross Perot/etc.

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John McStain is the reublicans version of John Kerry plain and simple.

Rigged elections ???? What would Al Gore or John Kerry have done if they were elected, what were they trying to change ??

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John McStain is the reublicans version of John Kerry plain and simple.

Rigged elections ???? What would Al Gore or John Kerry have done if they were elected, what were they trying to change ??

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....well here's one of them now.

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I fail to see how voting for Hillary over McCain because you dislike McCain is going to solve anything. If you are already a conservative then it seems to me that he would be the "lesser of two evils" compared to Hillary - why would you want to go with someone even more liberal than he is? Seems like simply refusing to a cast a vote for either one is the better choice - if you do not feel that either candidate is representative of you then you shouldn't pick one just because you "have to".


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However, a Republican voting for Hilary over McCain has to be logical because only liberals formulate opinions based on emotion rather than logic.


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I fail to see how voting for Hillary over McCain because you dislike McCain is going to solve anything. If you are already a conservative then it seems to me that he would be the "lesser of two evils" compared to Hillary - why would you want to go with someone even more liberal than he is? Seems like simply refusing to a cast a vote for either one is the better choice - if you do not feel that either candidate is representative of you then you shouldn't pick one just because you "have to".

I think the fear is that if McCain were to be President and he made some moderate or 'liberal' policies and they end up being huge failures, the Republican Party will take the hit. They'd rather see a Democrat mess things up for 4 years in the hopes that they can bring forward a better candidate than John McCain. I can see their point, but man, that's some bitter pill to swallow. What would happen if, God forbid, McCain did something moderate or liberal and it were successful? I think their heads would explode.

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I fail to see how voting for Hillary over McCain because you dislike McCain is going to solve anything. If you are already a conservative then it seems to me that he would be the "lesser of two evils" compared to Hillary - why would you want to go with someone even more liberal than he is? Seems like simply refusing to a cast a vote for either one is the better choice - if you do not feel that either candidate is representative of you then you shouldn't pick one just because you "have to".

I think the fear is that if McCain were to be President and he made some moderate or 'liberal' policies and they end up being huge failures, the Republican Party will take the hit. They'd rather see a Democrat mess things up for 4 years in the hopes that they can bring forward a better candidate than John McCain. I can see their point, but man, that's some bitter pill to swallow. What would happen if, God forbid, McCain did something moderate or liberal and it were successful? I think their heads would explode.

Ah yes, I remember hearing/reading this idea at some point. Personally, I think the Republican party has done enough damage to itself (regardless of if you are Republican or not, it is a fact in general) so what is a little more damage :P The fact is that each party is going to look bad at some point, its a vicious cycle. The more I read about politics the more I want to go live on a desert island....


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I fail to see how voting for Hillary over McCain because you dislike McCain is going to solve anything. If you are already a conservative then it seems to me that he would be the "lesser of two evils" compared to Hillary - why would you want to go with someone even more liberal than he is? Seems like simply refusing to a cast a vote for either one is the better choice - if you do not feel that either candidate is representative of you then you shouldn't pick one just because you "have to".

I think the fear is that if McCain were to be President and he made some moderate or 'liberal' policies and they end up being huge failures, the Republican Party will take the hit. They'd rather see a Democrat mess things up for 4 years in the hopes that they can bring forward a better candidate than John McCain. I can see their point, but man, that's some bitter pill to swallow. What would happen if, God forbid, McCain did something moderate or liberal and it were successful? I think their heads would explode.

Ah yes, I remember hearing/reading this idea at some point. Personally, I think the Republican party has done enough damage to itself (regardless of if you are Republican or not, it is a fact in general) so what is a little more damage :P The fact is that each party is going to look bad at some point, its a vicious cycle. The more I read about politics the more I want to go live on a desert island....

It's the political ideologues on both sides of the aisle that ruin it for the rest of us. They're so one dimensional.

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I'd rather have McCain over Hobama


"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies."

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