What is the best website for finding your soul mate

[Alex+R 0]

Of course it implies a benefit. Aren't you and your SO getting married because it benefits you both in some way?

The problem people have is that it's all they see is that the foreigner gets to come to the US, and they assume that's the ONLY reason they would marry the American. They see the American with some advantage looking for a mate in a foreign country, and it seems like that's not fair somehow, or that they're taking advantage of the foreigners.

Of course, as we all know, life and relationships are more complicated than that.

Gary, as far as I can tell, you're ignoring what's logical (if she signed up to meet Americans, obviously moving to America was on her mind) because it's uncomfortable for you. I'm not saying there are any stereotypes here. Maybe she signed up to meet an American and then fell in love with one, so she got to go to the US AND be with someone she loved. I'm not saying that doesn't happen some or even most of the time. I'm just saying I personally would find it uncomfortable that I was looking for love among people who saw me first as a greencard, then, after awhile, as a person, if I'm lucky.

There's no stereotyping there. That's just the truth. You keep evading my questions, and I can understand why they might make you uncomfortable, so that's fine.

[garya505 2]

I am merely commenting on the many comments I've seen on this site in regards to this situation....the 'send em back and get a new one' mentality and the 'American women have no family values' or the 'ABC women are great this that or the other' mentality. My opin is certainly not some 'applicable across the board to all foreign relationships' generalization...so if anyone hasn't uttered opins like the phrases above, then clearly I'm not talking about you.

Sites where foreign born men/women sign up for a site looking for a serious relationship with an American implies a benefit. The American gets points simply for showing up. We can protest all we want, but at the end of the day, it is what it is.

Of course it implies a benefit. Aren't you and your SO getting married because it benefits you both in some way?

The problem people have is that it's all they see is that the foreigner gets to come to the US, and they assume that's the ONLY reason they would marry the American. They see the American with some advantage looking for a mate in a foreign country, and it seems like that's not fair somehow, or that they're taking advantage of the foreigners.

Of course, as we all know, life and relationships are more complicated than that.

nonono...you're missing my point.

If we met on an IMB site, then the gc benefit is the primary or procuring factor. Not an added benefit down the line.

Marrying an American is more the attraction. If it was just the GC then I would think the all of the foreigners would leave their spouses once they obtained it.

[no name 1]

Western women are pretty much the lowest of the low; the least desirable. We can't go on dating websites in the same fashion that men can and look for a foreign husband. It is more socially acceptable for an average man to seek out a beautiful foreign bride than for an average lady to seek out a beautiful foreign groom. I often see very average looking men with stunning girlfriends but a good looking man with an average girlfriend is a lot rarer. We have nothing to offer except perhaps wealth (if we have a decent job) and citizenship.

Our only real hope is to find a poor man who does not mind leaving his own country or to search in other Western countries. Even if we are good-looking we are still not desirable, because according to stereotype we have horrible personalities.

So when a man deliberately seeks out a foreign bride the above is implied. I've heard the above sentiments echoed by men themselves all too many times. It's a bit of a self-esteem crusher.

[Jenn! 918]

I am merely commenting on the many comments I've seen on this site in regards to this situation....the 'send em back and get a new one' mentality and the 'American women have no family values' or the 'ABC women are great this that or the other' mentality. My opin is certainly not some 'applicable across the board to all foreign relationships' generalization...so if anyone hasn't uttered opins like the phrases above, then clearly I'm not talking about you.

Sites where foreign born men/women sign up for a site looking for a serious relationship with an American implies a benefit. The American gets points simply for showing up. We can protest all we want, but at the end of the day, it is what it is.

Of course it implies a benefit. Aren't you and your SO getting married because it benefits you both in some way?

The problem people have is that it's all they see is that the foreigner gets to come to the US, and they assume that's the ONLY reason they would marry the American. They see the American with some advantage looking for a mate in a foreign country, and it seems like that's not fair somehow, or that they're taking advantage of the foreigners.

Of course, as we all know, life and relationships are more complicated than that.

nonono...you're missing my point.

If we met on an IMB site, then the gc benefit is the primary or procuring factor. Not an added benefit down the line.

Marrying an American is more the attraction. If it was just the GC then I would think the all of the foreigners would leave their spouses once they obtained it.

What about money? Isn't there a reason why there tend to be some pretty large age differences?

[no name 1]

I am merely commenting on the many comments I've seen on this site in regards to this situation....the 'send em back and get a new one' mentality and the 'American women have no family values' or the 'ABC women are great this that or the other' mentality. My opin is certainly not some 'applicable across the board to all foreign relationships' generalization...so if anyone hasn't uttered opins like the phrases above, then clearly I'm not talking about you.

Sites where foreign born men/women sign up for a site looking for a serious relationship with an American implies a benefit. The American gets points simply for showing up. We can protest all we want, but at the end of the day, it is what it is.

Of course it implies a benefit. Aren't you and your SO getting married because it benefits you both in some way?

The problem people have is that it's all they see is that the foreigner gets to come to the US, and they assume that's the ONLY reason they would marry the American. They see the American with some advantage looking for a mate in a foreign country, and it seems like that's not fair somehow, or that they're taking advantage of the foreigners.

Of course, as we all know, life and relationships are more complicated than that.

nonono...you're missing my point.

If we met on an IMB site, then the gc benefit is the primary or procuring factor. Not an added benefit down the line.

Marrying an American is more the attraction. If it was just the GC then I would think the all of the foreigners would leave their spouses once they obtained it.

What about money? Isn't there a reason why there tend to be some pretty large age differences?

How dare you! Of course it's because every pretty girl wants to live in the great land of the free, America! Money means NOTHING!

[garya505 2]

Of course it implies a benefit. Aren't you and your SO getting married because it benefits you both in some way?

The problem people have is that it's all they see is that the foreigner gets to come to the US, and they assume that's the ONLY reason they would marry the American. They see the American with some advantage looking for a mate in a foreign country, and it seems like that's not fair somehow, or that they're taking advantage of the foreigners.

Of course, as we all know, life and relationships are more complicated than that.

Gary, as far as I can tell, you're ignoring what's logical (if she signed up to meet Americans, obviously moving to America was on her mind) because it's uncomfortable for you. I'm not saying there are any stereotypes here. Maybe she signed up to meet an American and then fell in love with one, so she got to go to the US AND be with someone she loved. I'm not saying that doesn't happen some or even most of the time. I'm just saying I personally would find it uncomfortable that I was looking for love among people who saw me first as a greencard, then, after awhile, as a person, if I'm lucky.

There's no stereotyping there. That's just the truth. You keep evading my questions, and I can understand why they might make you uncomfortable, so that's fine.

Obviously meeting Americans is on their mind, It would be silly to dispute that. But you extend that to assume that the foreigner sees you first as just a green card, which is not always the case. What's the percentage of cases like that? Who knows? Some people would like us to think it's all of them. Fortunately it's not.

No it doesn't make me uncomfortable at all, but of course that's one of your assumptions. This is an interesting subject to me for obvious reasons, and I'm just trying to do my part to enligthen some of the less informed here. What question would you like me to answer?

[Alex+R 0]

Of course it implies a benefit. Aren't you and your SO getting married because it benefits you both in some way?

The problem people have is that it's all they see is that the foreigner gets to come to the US, and they assume that's the ONLY reason they would marry the American. They see the American with some advantage looking for a mate in a foreign country, and it seems like that's not fair somehow, or that they're taking advantage of the foreigners.

Of course, as we all know, life and relationships are more complicated than that.

Gary, as far as I can tell, you're ignoring what's logical (if she signed up to meet Americans, obviously moving to America was on her mind) because it's uncomfortable for you. I'm not saying there are any stereotypes here. Maybe she signed up to meet an American and then fell in love with one, so she got to go to the US AND be with someone she loved. I'm not saying that doesn't happen some or even most of the time. I'm just saying I personally would find it uncomfortable that I was looking for love among people who saw me first as a greencard, then, after awhile, as a person, if I'm lucky.

There's no stereotyping there. That's just the truth. You keep evading my questions, and I can understand why they might make you uncomfortable, so that's fine.

Obviously meeting Americans is on their mind, It would be silly to dispute that. But you extend that to assume that the foreigner sees you first as just a green card, which is not always the case. What's the percentage of cases like that? Who knows? Some people would like us to think it's all of them. Fortunately it's not.

No it doesn't make me uncomfortable at all, but of course that's one of your assumptions. This is an interesting subject to me for obvious reasons, and I'm just trying to do my part to enligthen some of the less informed here. What question would you like me to answer?

How about, why else do they want to meet Americans for marriage? Which of them DON'T want to move to the US? By that standard, the only ones worthy of your love would be the ones who force you to move to their country. Anyone who moves to the US is an "opportunist."

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

What is wrong with wanting to spend the twilight of your life in the company of a young and attractive woman? In reverse, what is wrong with giving a man in the twilight of his life a decade or so of love when in return you get a green card and all his money?

Both parties benefit from the arrangement. So why all the anger and resentment?

[Alex+R 0]

What is wrong with wanting to spend the twilight of your life in the company of a young and attractive woman? In reverse, what is wrong with giving a man in the twilight of his life a decade or so of love when in return you get a green card and all his money?

Both parties benefit from the arrangement. So why all the anger and resentment?

I agree. It's a little funny, though, when people who are party to such agreements aren't willing to admit that's the deal.

[no name 1]

What is wrong with wanting to spend the twilight of your life in the company of a young and attractive woman? In reverse, what is wrong with giving a man in the twilight of his life a decade or so of love when in return you get a green card and all his money?

Both parties benefit from the arrangement. So why all the anger and resentment?

Why all the defensiveness if we call a spade, a spade?

You notice only men are so angry about it.

[Ban Hammer 14,269]

How about, why else do they want to meet Americans for marriage? Which of them DON'T want to move to the US? By that standard, the only ones worthy of your love would be the ones who force you to move to their country. Anyone who moves to the US is an "opportunist."

did you tell rey that?

[Reynaldo 0]

I agree. It's a little funny, though, when people who are party to such agreements aren't willing to admit that's the deal.

Admit to what? They are in love...

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

What is wrong with wanting to spend the twilight of your life in the company of a young and attractive woman? In reverse, what is wrong with giving a man in the twilight of his life a decade or so of love when in return you get a green card and all his money?

Both parties benefit from the arrangement. So why all the anger and resentment?

Why all the defensiveness if we call a spade, a spade?

You notice only men are so angry about it.

All this hate is gonna give you a coronary, dev

[garya505 2]

I am merely commenting on the many comments I've seen on this site in regards to this situation....the 'send em back and get a new one' mentality and the 'American women have no family values' or the 'ABC women are great this that or the other' mentality. My opin is certainly not some 'applicable across the board to all foreign relationships' generalization...so if anyone hasn't uttered opins like the phrases above, then clearly I'm not talking about you.

Sites where foreign born men/women sign up for a site looking for a serious relationship with an American implies a benefit. The American gets points simply for showing up. We can protest all we want, but at the end of the day, it is what it is.

Of course it implies a benefit. Aren't you and your SO getting married because it benefits you both in some way?

The problem people have is that it's all they see is that the foreigner gets to come to the US, and they assume that's the ONLY reason they would marry the American. They see the American with some advantage looking for a mate in a foreign country, and it seems like that's not fair somehow, or that they're taking advantage of the foreigners.

Of course, as we all know, life and relationships are more complicated than that.

nonono...you're missing my point.

If we met on an IMB site, then the gc benefit is the primary or procuring factor. Not an added benefit down the line.

Marrying an American is more the attraction. If it was just the GC then I would think the all of the foreigners would leave their spouses once they obtained it.

What about money? Isn't there a reason why there tend to be some pretty large age differences?

I can't talk to the money issue because I don't have any.

Right or not, a lot of foreign women think American guys who are older are more mature and stable (yes financially as well as socially). Some of them see the younger American guys and guys in their home country as cheaters and, as my wife call them, "playboys". American guys like younger foreign women for obvious reasons. My wife and I have a 25 year age difference.

[no name 1]

What is wrong with wanting to spend the twilight of your life in the company of a young and attractive woman? In reverse, what is wrong with giving a man in the twilight of his life a decade or so of love when in return you get a green card and all his money?

Both parties benefit from the arrangement. So why all the anger and resentment?

Why all the defensiveness if we call a spade, a spade?

You notice only men are so angry about it.

All this hate is gonna give you a coronary, dev

I'm not hating anything. Stop putting words in my mouth.