New processing times - is the USCIS lying?

[iansig40 1]

The fact that people like you find it acceptable that petitions take so long to approve or deny is the reason why the government is allowed to get away with such poor service.

The reason Zggy thinks this way is because he is one of them.

He has worked in Border patrol.

Guess he is used to the Government doing their job s l o w ly.

Well,that will explain why he thinks USCIS is allowed to do this lousy job !!!!!!!!!

I'm wondering WTH is he doing here anyway ?

Because he has to go through the process just like the rest of us -- no special treatment for him! -- and if you would take a peek in the Canadian forum you would realize that along the way he has provided a lot of valuable information for us fellow Can/Am couples. Perhaps you may want to dial back on the hostility.

Again, I don't find it OK that after 1 year of waiting I'm still waiting for a miracle to happen while others are going through this process in a matter of few months ?

Do you think that's fair ??????

And yes ,I'm hostile to affirmations like "we are not so important to USCIS because we're already here " that BS!!!!

I paid the money like everyone else and their slogan is "first come first served” but that's another BS so ....you see my point and my frustration? I hope you do.

[iansig40 1]

Not to mention I found out that people who filed mid last year got transferred to CSC and fly through it... Why don't they transfer the cases that with oldest NOA date? This sucks.

It's just business as usual at NSC...they were doing the exact same thing 3 years ago when we filed our I-130. We filed in January of 2004, then about May or June the new filers immediately got transfers to CSC and we didn't get transfered until September. It royally pi$$ed me off then and it still pi$$es me off!!! It seems they can't figure out that new petitions should go on the BOTTOM of the pile.

And as far as filing the N-400 to speed up the I-751, that is pure BULL$HIT!! If that is what's really happening, they really have their heads up their arses...

I subscribe to that 100%

I recall having the same problem with my I-129 Application ,same lousy job from Nebraska .

I'm wondering how the hell they managed to get a such a good job where nothing is required from them

Edited February 11, 2008 by iansig40

[traversm 0]

I haven't said anything in a while......but I am so sick of waiting. I am becoming obsessed with checking the USCIS website. I like you also feel that they need to process application first come first serve.

There is no excuse they could give me that would make me feel better about this whole situation....I just want my GC!!!!!!!!!

[Cassie 8]

The fact that people like you find it acceptable that petitions take so long to approve or deny is the reason why the government is allowed to get away with such poor service.

The reason Zggy thinks this way is because he is one of them.

He has worked in Border patrol.

Guess he is used to the Government doing their job s l o w ly.

Well,that will explain why he thinks USCIS is allowed to do this lousy job !!!!!!!!!

I'm wondering WTH is he doing here anyway ?

Because he has to go through the process just like the rest of us -- no special treatment for him! -- and if you would take a peek in the Canadian forum you would realize that along the way he has provided a lot of valuable information for us fellow Can/Am couples. Perhaps you may want to dial back on the hostility.

Again, I don't find it OK that after 1 year of waiting I'm still waiting for a miracle to happen while others are going through this process in a matter of few months ?

Do you think that's fair ??????

And yes ,I'm hostile to affirmations like "we are not so important to USCIS because we're already here " that BS!!!!

I paid the money like everyone else and their slogan is "first come first served” but that's another BS so ....you see my point and my frustration? I hope you do.

I would be the first to admit that it isn't fair, as I am part of a group from TSC that have been waiting the same amount of time like you all here dealing with Nebraska. Hey, the TSC Losers finally got transferred out of Texas to Vermont and the first thing we heard was "oh ####### that's not fair to us" from those waiting in Vermont -- which is completely understandable. There is unfairness all around, but is that really a new thing?

But taking your frustrations out on Zyggy, who made a pretty good point (although it sucks to hear it), isn't going to make things better, or make you feel better. Just a thought.

[iansig40 1]

The fact that people like you find it acceptable that petitions take so long to approve or deny is the reason why the government is allowed to get away with such poor service.

The reason Zggy thinks this way is because he is one of them.

He has worked in Border patrol.

Guess he is used to the Government doing their job s l o w ly.

Well,that will explain why he thinks USCIS is allowed to do this lousy job !!!!!!!!!

I'm wondering WTH is he doing here anyway ?

Because he has to go through the process just like the rest of us -- no special treatment for him! -- and if you would take a peek in the Canadian forum you would realize that along the way he has provided a lot of valuable information for us fellow Can/Am couples. Perhaps you may want to dial back on the hostility.

Again, I don't find it OK that after 1 year of waiting I'm still waiting for a miracle to happen while others are going through this process in a matter of few months ?

Do you think that's fair ??????

And yes ,I'm hostile to affirmations like "we are not so important to USCIS because we're already here " that BS!!!!

I paid the money like everyone else and their slogan is "first come first served†but that's another BS so ....you see my point and my frustration? I hope you do.

I would be the first to admit that it isn't fair, as I am part of a group from TSC that have been waiting the same amount of time like you all here dealing with Nebraska. Hey, the TSC Losers finally got transferred out of Texas to Vermont and the first thing we heard was "oh ####### that's not fair to us" from those waiting in Vermont -- which is completely understandable. There is unfairness all around, but is that really a new thing?

But taking your frustrations out on Zyggy, who made a pretty good point (although it sucks to hear it), isn't going to make things better, or make you feel better. Just a thought.

No man ,I'm not picking on anyone here ,I'm just mad that these AS*****S from Nebraska are playing games with us thinking that we can take all their ####### ...AND GET PAID FOR THAT .

I have contacted my Congressman and he promised to look into my case however, I'm more interested to know why older applications were dumped completely while the newer once were transferred to California and approved within 3 to 4 months .What makes some of up better then other? Is it just another scam that they put on our plate to force us to throw another $400 or $500 filling for N400 ?

Edited February 12, 2008 by iansig40

[jennybirgitta 0]

I got a letter today about the service request from December 14. Standard letter. Useless and a waste of time.

"Service records show your case is currently waiting to be reviewed by an officer. You will receive a decision or notice of other action once your case is adjudicated."

[zyggy 9]

I am going to speak one last time on this issue because it appears that some of you don't want to hear the truth about what is going on... and that is at your option...

Lily... I have always been fair to you and have tried to provide you with insight on the events in your past in order to help you and others who may have found themselves in your stuation. I find you continued vitriol towards me to be extremely dissapointing and counterproductive. I thought we had moved beyond this childishness.

It is growing number of people like you and iansig who increasingly don't want to hear the truth about what is happening on the inside that has cause me to post less and less here and to share my knowledge and perspective with those who have the desire to learn the reasns for what is going on with their journeyat other places. The fact of the matter is that there is a priority order on how and which petitions are processed and which times based on the differing needs of the service. The fact of that matter is that I-751's are one of the lowest priority petitions, especially at Nebraska which processes a lot of what are considered high priority petitions such as employment petitions and asylum petitions.

It is also a fact that I-751's used to take in excess of two to three years to process until very recently. When I first started my journey, it used to be common knowledge that filing an N-400 was the only way to expedite a I-751 since granting of citizenship is a rather high priority for the service.

What we're going through is a reorganization on how petitions are processed. At the begining of our journey, petitions were adjudicated on a entirely geographic based system. All petitions were processed at a center based on where you lived. In the past 18 months or so, the service has been slowly moving toward a system where centain service centers process certain classes of petitions. For instance, CSC has been moving toward processing all family types of petitions. Which is why in in June or so, family types of peittions such as I-485's, I-129F's and also I-751 have been transferred to CSC. We have been caught in the gap of this transition... It would have been better for NSC to transfer all of our petitions at the same time that started transferring new ones to CSC... but for some odd reason they didn't. They chose to keep them for some reason, but there's nothing we can do about that other than let some people know what is going on. We have written letters to our congressman, our senators, and USCIS ombudsman and the DHS Inspector General, and the chair and ranking members of the Immigration Subcommittees of both Houses of Congress alerting them to the point of the inequity in approval of our types of petitions. Obviously nothing has been done about it yet nor do I expect it to, but at least I said something about it and feel better for doing so.

ANd for information, the reason I have been posting here is because we are in the same boat as all of you. My wife filed her I-751 peititon in April 2007 in Nebraska and we are still waiting and are just as frustrated as the rest of you are. But at least we are together and are living our dream... We for one are more that willing to give up our place in the perceived adjudication line so that those who are still waiting to be with their loved one can finally be together, or can fianlly feel safe for probably the first time in years because they have been granted asylum, or have been granted to chance to start their own American dream by being given approval to get employment in the US. If the rest of you are so selfish to wail about keeping your perceived "first come first served" precious place in line... well, more power to you. But the fact is, you're not going to get what you want and you might as well be resolved to the fact that all the complaining and stomping in the world is not going to change the reality.

That is all I am going to say on this topic... VJ used to be a place where hearing different perspectives and reasoning on immigration topics were welcomed and discussed in a civil and reasonable way. Now it is a place where you either preach to the choir or be shouted down and attacked. It is truly sad...

Edited February 12, 2008 by zyggy

[Sister Fracas 5]

Thank you for your insight Zyggy... I'd just like to respond by saying that VJ is also the place to share all of these frustrations that we have. Yes, we are together with our spouses, but it doesn't mean we can't be pi$$ed off that a service that we pay good money for is so f'd up. And since this is the second time my petition is getting caught in the time gap (more like a time warp) at NSC, it's extremely frustrating. Do we have this to look forward to when we send in the naturalization petition also? No one can say. I generally don't moan much about it because I figure the GC will come when it does, but that doesn't mean I can't occasionally feel like I want to stomp about it...and I'm glad there are people along with me stomping as well, because no one else in the outside world understands what this immigration nonsense is like. Every now and then we all just need to

[zyggy 9]

Thank you for your insight Zyggy... I'd just like to respond by saying that VJ is also the place to share all of these frustrations that we have. Yes, we are together with our spouses, but it doesn't mean we can't be pi$$ed off that a service that we pay good money for is so f'd up. And since this is the second time my petition is getting caught in the time gap (more like a time warp) at NSC, it's extremely frustrating. Do we have this to look forward to when we send in the naturalization petition also? No one can say. I generally don't moan much about it because I figure the GC will come when it does, but that doesn't mean I can't occasionally feel like I want to stomp about it...and I'm glad there are people along with me stomping as well, because no one else in the outside world understands what this immigration nonsense is like. Every now and then we all just need to

Agreed... but there is a difference between venting your frustrations (which has always been done, myself included) and attacking those who do not share ones viewpoint with nothing more than vitriol and the mob mentality that follows even when countered with clear evidence supporting one's position... this has been going on a lot more in the last year or so... the tone on this site has changed Frances and not for the better...

Edited February 12, 2008 by zyggy

[burs 0]

zyggy, i have always been facinated by the picture next to your nickname? is it young hitler or something? anyhow, folks are frustrated and calling them selfish is rhetoric deserving of national socialists in some respect. sure our loved ones are with us, but the dollars we spent on the I-751 to processed on time - aren't. believe it or not, these dollars are pretty scarce for some people and wasting them like this is... well if not comparable to not being with your spouse, then comparable to being without a meal. all i am trying to say - calling someone selfish for being frustrated isn't cool.

[zyggy 9]

zyggy, i have always been facinated by the picture next to your nickname? is it young hitler or something? anyhow, folks are frustrated and calling them selfish is rhetoric deserving of national socialists in some respect. sure our loved ones are with us, but the dollars we spent on the I-751 to processed on time - aren't. believe it or not, these dollars are pretty scarce for some people and wasting them like this is... well if not comparable to not being with your spouse, then comparable to being without a meal. all i am trying to say - calling someone selfish for being frustrated isn't cool.

This is excatly what I am talking about... totally and completely inappropriate.... what if I told you that some my relatives were killed by that regime because they tried to defend the oppressed... how would you feel then... unbelieveable

I have had it...

Edited February 12, 2008 by zyggy

[Spiderette 0]

I agree with Sister Fracas... although I haven't been waiting as long as some people, I too am frustrated. I paid good money, just like the people who paid the same amount AFTER me, why is it fair that they are approved before me????

My frustration is not at the people who have been approved... in fact, I congratulate them, and I am very happy for them that they were able to get through the process quickly... I'm frustrated at the USCIS because there seems to be no process in place as to how they go about approving applications, and if like some people state, the I751 isn't important to USCIS because we are in the States with our loved ones already... well, then they shouldn't have the process at all. We should just be able to apply for naturalization at 3 years, or renew our GC after 10 years, or 5 years.

I married in good faith and sent them all 4 of the primary things they ask for, joint leases, joint tax returns, our babies birth certificate, joint insurance... why do I have to wait longer to be approved then anyhow who filed after me... if only someone at USCIS could explain that to us - that would be nice, instead of these ####### fictional dates they come up with!!!

I'll get off my soapbox now

[Cassie 8]

zyggy, i have always been facinated by the picture next to your nickname? is it young hitler or something? anyhow, folks are frustrated and calling them selfish is rhetoric deserving of national socialists in some respect. sure our loved ones are with us, but the dollars we spent on the I-751 to processed on time - aren't. believe it or not, these dollars are pretty scarce for some people and wasting them like this is... well if not comparable to not being with your spouse, then comparable to being without a meal. all i am trying to say - calling someone selfish for being frustrated isn't cool.

unbelievable.

[Peter T 0]

zyggy, i have always been facinated by the picture next to your nickname? is it young hitler or something? anyhow, folks are frustrated and calling them selfish is rhetoric deserving of national socialists in some respect.

Goodwin's law. burs, whatever you claimed is a lost cause. Better take a time-out!

[Cassie 8]

zyggy, i have always been facinated by the picture next to your nickname? is it young hitler or something? anyhow, folks are frustrated and calling them selfish is rhetoric deserving of national socialists in some respect.

Goodwin's law. burs, whatever you claimed is a lost cause. Better take a time-out!

I had never heard of Godwin's Law until this point, I learn something new every day!