Birth Certificate Question!! Please help!!!

[sunshine886 0]

Hello All,

I am in the process of filing AOS. I was born in 1978 when there was no Birth Certificated issued in China. I have been researching about this topic. I am just wondering if my understanding about the precedures to get a Notarized Birth Certificate is correct. Firstly, I need to go to Police Station to ask for a Chu Sheng Zheng Ming Shu. Secondly, I need to go to Notarial Public Office to get notarization. Could anyboy be so kind to confirm or correct me if I am wrong? Many thanks in advances!!!

[Ryan H 3,791]

Moved from Adjustment of Status from Family Based Visas forum to China regional forum; topic is country specific. Duplicate thread removed.

[sunshine886 0]

waiting for an anwer!!!! thanks!!!

[SBB 74]

That's basically it, but you don't necessarily need to be the one to do it. Anyone on your hukou can (and it typically needs to be in your hukou city). When my wife needed hers, we had her dad get it so she wouldn't have to fly back to China. We just had to send him a couple passport photos and her National ID Card. When it's all done, you will have a packet with four pages in a white cover (frequently called a "white book" on these boards). The booklet will have a page in Chinese attesting to your birth and parentage (with your photograph), an English translation of this page, a Chinese page attesting to the credentials and accuracy of the translation, and an English translation of the attestation. You should also see if you can get a copy of your old vaccination records (sometimes called a "yellow book") if you don't have one already.

[sunshine886 0]

thank you very much for the reply!!!

[Pitaya 2,576]

waiting for an anwer!!!! thanks!!!

Welcome to the forum.

It seems that you received an answer to your frequently asked China-specific question.. Another good source of China-specific information is the pinned thread at the top of the China Regional Forum page, Chinese Marriage Visa Terms & Definitions: http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/393969-chinese-marriage-visa-terms-and-definitions/

When you obtain your Notarial Certificates, consider getting several copies at that time. It is much easier to obtain them while in China, then to have to obtain them when living in the US.

YMMV.

Good luck on your immigration journey

[sunshine886 0]

Thank you very much for the reply!!!

[sunshine886 0]

Welcome to the forum.

It seems that you received an answer to your frequently asked China-specific question.. Another good source of China-specific information is the pinned thread at the top of the China Regional Forum page, Chinese Marriage Visa Terms & Definitions: http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/393969-chinese-marriage-visa-terms-and-definitions/

When you obtain your Notarial Certificates, consider getting several copies at that time. It is much easier to obtain them while in China, then to have to obtain them when living in the US.

YMMV.

Good luck on your immigration journey

My family just got my Notarial Certificate. I do not quite understand what do you mean by "getting several copies at that time". Can i copy notarial certificate by myself if i need it in the future???

thank you very much!!!

[Darnell 8,478]

nah - they can order multiples of the document.

they received quantity 1.

they could have ordered quantity 3.

each white book is actually an original. so they could have ordered 3 originals.

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as i understand it, you only need a photocopy of your birth certificate to file . Since that's the case, your parents can get into a copy shop nearby, have the clerk scan all pages to PDF file, email the PDF file to you, you print it out and use it in your Adjustment of status submission (saving transit time from EMS) .

[sunshine886 0]

nah - they can order multiples of the document.

they received quantity 1.

they could have ordered quantity 3.

each white book is actually an original. so they could have ordered 3 originals.

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as i understand it, you only need a photocopy of your birth certificate to file . Since that's the case, your parents can get into a copy shop nearby, have the clerk scan all pages to PDF file, email the PDF file to you, you print it out and use it in your Adjustment of status submission (saving transit time from EMS) .

thank you very much for your reply!!!!

I do not quite understand. Technically, notarized birth certificate is not birth certificate. I am not sure if i can use the photocopy of notarization certificate.

[Darnell 8,478]

recheck yer premise, soon.

[SBB 74]

thank you very much for your reply!!!!

I do not quite understand. Technically, notarized birth certificate is not birth certificate. I am not sure if i can use the photocopy of notarization certificate.

It's the document that everyone who has gone through this process has used. Photocopy all four pages of the document and send them in with your application. Keep the originals for yourself.

[Pitaya 2,576]

thank you very much for your reply!!!!

I do not quite understand. Technically, notarized birth certificate is not birth certificate. I am not sure if i can use the photocopy of notarization certificate.

I don't think that I would necessarily infer western application of terms to the documents that you mention. Since technically, people born while the hukou system was in use do not necessarily have birth certificates, many only have a listing in that ancient family registration system. The system/documents/usage that are being employed has been accepted by the US Departments of State and Homeland Security for immigration purposes. The ancient Chinese hukou system was only recently abolished.

I made a suggestion to get additional White Books (Notarial Certificates) prepared at the same time as that later on when your Chinese family member is in the US, it may be more difficult to obtain any required White Books from China. When possible, always provide a photocopy of all pages of the White Book, bring the original to the interview for comparison by the interviewer.

When my family was attempting to obtain Washington State ID cards, we provided photocopies of each of their White Book "birth certificates." Initially, the examiner would not accept the White Book. However, after further consultation with her supervisor, the examiner did accept the White Book "birth certificates." My family was eventually issued their State ID cards.

Take a look at these two good links about Notary services in China and Notarial Certificates.

http://travel.state.gov/content/visas/english/fees/reciprocity-by-country/CH.html

http://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/eoir/legacy/2014/10/06/CHN103503.E.pdf

YMMV.

Good luck on your immigration journey.