akdiver

Honestly, I never get it when they go "baby, let's get in the sack and do it" then after that go try to terminate the life that came from their own loins. How brainless! Maybe someone ought to ahve told him what willies are for!

Wow - nothing like being judgemental and believing that one's personal beliefs are the absolute standard for everyone else....

Cheers!

AKDiver

I was reviewing my form I-751 and i realized the person that filled it out made a mistake. I am the beneficiary and all my information is correct but my wife's date of birth is wrong she was born on 1980 and the year that the person that filed for us put 1981. I dont know if this will affect aanything since the first time we went to interview for the conditional we brought all the original s and copies of her Passport also the Marriage certificate has the exact dates of birth and well she is is the american so why would she lie?, Do you think that is going to be a problem?.

Also what is going on I am nervous, MY receipt date at vermont is MAY 11 and notice date is MAY 22nd. Its been almost 5 months and I am freaking out. What would happens if I call?, We had trouble with some mail getting lost a month ago can i explain this to them and ask them is any other notices were mailed?. Please let me know what your opinions are.

Always, always, always fill out your own forms.

If you don't follow that advice, you should at least check the work of the person who does - BEFORE sending them in.

I dunno why you would have someone else fill out this form anyway, considering how easy this particular form is. Two pages of form with, what, 4 pages of instructions? Sheeesh.

That said, I don't think you need to do anything. It was an honest mistake, due to simple ineptitude, not an attempt to lie, deceive, or cheat. Since your wife's birthday isn't going to appear on any documents that will be issued to you, it's not something that you should worry about trying to correct, in my opinion. If you do get called for an interview, then at that time, you might want to mention the error so they can correct it, if they care.

Good luck!

AKDiver

AKDiver, I don't know if your post was directed towards me or not, but I just wanted to respond to say that I agree with much of what you had to say; I was trying to make the same point that you much more eloquently made. I didn't post with the intention of judging anyone for choosing a RW, and I hope I didn't come across that way. Whatever happens between consenting adults is cool with me.

Well, it wasn't addressed toward you in particular - but to all the particpants in the conversation, and those who may be lurking on it for entertainment value. Your post just happened to be the one before mine. Actually, the one that inspired me to write was the "fat man at the whitecastle" post. Your post just happened to get posted before I finished writing mine (:

Cheers!

AKDiver

Oh come on. This argument is ridiculous.

How many American guys here would be hot to fall in love with the fat woman working at McDonald's? How many of you are seeking out the fat ugly women from overseas? Is it just coincidence that the men here are ending up with hot, hot wives - in many cases, far hotter than they could hope for if they limited their search to American women? That's what I thought. To claim that American women are any more deficient in this area of superficiality than American men are is fantasy.

Some can argue if they want to, but I think that, broadly speaking, we can observe two facts at play:

1). Most of the American men that are the subject of this discussion are ending up with far hotter women than they would if they were only dating American women.

2). Most of the foreign women that are the subject of this discussion have different cultural values than American women.

Facts are facts and I really don't think there is much room for valid debate on these statements, as they are phrased. So, that leaves us with the question of WHY? Why are these men ending up with the hotter women, and why do these women have different values, and what are those values? This is where the room for debate lies.

There are lots of theories I guess, but I'll take a quick stab (I have some other stuff to do at the moment). One theory for the hotter women is simply different (not lower!) standards. The hot foriegn women are willing to settle for the less-than-hot men for one reason or another. The question is, why? One answer is culture (which I'll address in a minute). Another is diminished choices. Perhaps their local supply of men is such that foreign men are simply more desirable than local men - for one reason or another. Maybe the local men are fat & ugly too. Maybe they drink too much. Maybe they tend to be unemployed. Maybe they just have bad character. Maybe local culture is such that men are taught to be not very nice to women. Who knows? What we do know is that women are willing to pay tremendous (social) costs to tap into a different supply chain of men.

Now for culture...let's face it, American culture, such as it is, is fraught with problems. In my opinion, it teaches people (men AND women) to be materialistic, shallow, self-centered, short-sighted, and hedonistic. That's a damning analysis, I know, but it's my opinion and I'm entitled to it. You're entitled to yours as well, but right now we are talking about mine. (:

Anyway - People with such a culture can be considered by some, even those growing up in such a culture, to be unsuitable marriage partners. Maybe they simply are not attracted to such people. Maybe they're attracted to them, but have some negative relationship experiences with them. Maybe they actively reject this culture on principle and want someone with different values that are, most likely, going to come from someone raised in a different culture. At the end of the day, what we know is that some men decide to seek out foriegn women, and many of them claim this culture difference or negative experiences with local women as the reasons why. We can take them at their word, or simply insist on believing they just want women who are hotter than they are "entitled to" based on American standards of beauty, success, and class. To each their own.

Now - as for the culture of these foreign women... no one with any intelligence can seriously disagree that women from a foreign country are raised in a non-American culture and this affects their belief and value systems. It's just an obvious given. The question is, what is this difference and how does it affect choice in relationship partners? Again, there are many theories and none is likely to be applicable to all cultures.

Let's deal with the common consideration - that these women are no different than American women, they are simply looking for a better life and are happy to jump on board with a rich man, and that is their primary criteria. Well, hell, sounds a lot like Americanism to me. How can any American seriously criticize this strategy? Yeah, sure, some foreign women probably fall into this category, but hey, so do a lot of American women! Don't resent the foreign women for this - they simply want to make their lives better and are willing to do what it takes in the process, all while hurting no one. Nothing wrong with that.

Another consideration is that maybe their values really are different. Maybe they don't care about marrying a rich and successful husband. Maybe they want to marry a GOOD MAN who treats them well and they don't care where he happens to live. Further, maybe their culture is such that they simply don't place the value on the big house, 5 cars, and other material things that American culture does. Maybe they are less superficial about their marriage partner's looks? Maybe they look at the deeper character? Maybe they know that men who are not "competitive" when it comes to American women, because of their looks, finances, social skills, or other factors, have a lot of love to give, that the supply of such love may have been building up for many years, and they will treat their wife like a queen. Maybe many American women don't marry such men because they don't know these things, refuse to believe these things, or are culturally incapable of believing these things. Maybe while the American women thinks, "well, I want to marry a good man too - but these other things matter a lot!" (or deceives herself into thinking she doesn't care about these things when she really does), the foreign women REALLY thinks these other things just don't matter so much. This certainly SEEMS to be the case, if you read their dating profiles and look at the marriage choices they make. So yes, while these hot women, IF THEY WERE AMERICAN WOMEN, would certainly make different, culturally-induced choices, the fact is, they are NOT American women. They are from different places, have different values, and make difference choices. Further, the BASIS for their choices, and the choices themselves, are JUST AS VALID as the choices American women make, and they should not be criticised for those choices. Let them the hell alone. Leave their men alone too.

Finally, we can address the "fat/ugly/stupid/loser American man treats foreign model-quality/sex-goddess/beautiful women like #######" argument. This comes in three forms. The first form is that such men seek out foreign women mainly for power and control reasons, so they can treat them poorly and "get away with" things they would never get away with in a marriage with an American women. Honestly, this argument is bunk. No man, unless he is just a complete and utter fool, goes through the hassle, bother, complication, and yes, expense, of marrying any women, let alone a foreign women, specifically with the intention of treating her poorly. What would be the point? Honestly, who the hell needs that headache?

The second form of this argument is that foreign women are happy to put up with such treatment because even so, life is much better than before. Again, this argument is largely bunk. Women, no matter where they are from or what their culture is, want to love and be loved - and they know when that is not happening (women appearing on Cops and Jerry Springer excluded). Foreign women don't want to be mistreated any more than American women do. Further, just like SOME American women will put up with years of abuse "for the sake of the children", "because they don't know what to do", want to better position themselves for divorce, or simply want to keep using (yes, using) the man for what he provides them, so will SOME foreign women. This shouldn't be news to anyone, and is rather obvious. Big deal. Users come in all shapes and sizes, and strategy is appropriate for all situations. In the situation of a bad marriage, it's important to develop a good exit strategy, and that may take some time. In the interim, one has to make the best of the present situation. Duh.

The third form is that there really is a group of men out there who are in fact losers and dirt bags. Their beliefs about women and how they are treat women are disgusting. They treat women as trophies and sex objects, and use power and money to control them, all while not loving them. Obviously, this is not a good thing, but it's also a much smaller proportion of men than many women seem to believe. Further, there is a similar group of women who treat men in a like fashion. Such a women will use a man she doesn't particularly love or care about to provide her with a lifestyle she could never manage on her own, father and fund her children for 18+ years, and continue to suck up his resources long after she has stopped loving him because she is too gutless and pathetic to be honest, have an equitable divorce, and try to make it through life on her own. Such women are as disgusting as the men. Both groups should be reviled.

So, in summary, people make difference choices, and they make them for reasons other than the ones we might make ourselves. Big deal. Let everyone live their own lives and take care of their own problems, concentrate on your own issues, and try very hard not to judge other people for their different decision-making criteria because when it comes right down to it, as long as they are not hurting anyone, it's really none of your business. In the meantime, watch your criticism of other people's superficiality. Be more honest with yourself because odds are stronger than not that you (yes you!) are more superficial in a variety of ways than you give yourself credit for. Yes, it's true. And yes, I include myself in this statement.

As for the losers in our society, the men and the women, there isn't much we CAN do about them if we're not willing to address the cultural issues that promote such problems. That's a matter of political issues that no one seems to have the stomach to address, so we'll just have to live with it.

Cheers!

AKDiver

Surely HR in a Uni will know the difference between 'status' and 'documentation'--this situation is not all that uncommon.

I don't think you quite understand the magnitude of their ineptitude. Trust me, it is quite high. (:

Thanks!

AKDiver

She should expect to receive a letter (I-797, Notice of Action) from the USCIS service center extending the status for a year, while the petition is still pending adjudication.

Cool.

Does she have an unrestricted SSN card, since that's proof of work authorization once the I-551 card expires?

Yes, she has one with the restriction removed. It looks more or less like my card - except hers is a whole lot newer. (:

The employer is concerned about the I-9 requirements and I don't think the Notice of Action will work for the I-9 even though it says your work authorization is extended for a year.

Yeah, I'm sure that is their concern. I just looked at the I-9 and yeah, it seems between her driver's license and regular SS card, she should be fine. I'll have her plead that case - of course, being a university bureacracy, they are liable to make up some bullshit reason why it will not work for her, since they know her green card is expiring, even though the I-9 says the employer doesn't get to specify what documents they will take. Those people are incredible, and not in a good sort of way. We'll see how it goes.

Possibly. I also believe that as long as you stick around with the same company, you are *probably* ok, assuming that the employer would not unnecessarily try to reverify the I-9, which here apparently is not the case.

No luck there. That's the reason for this query. Her HR dept called her today and reminderd her that her green card will expire soon and that she will need to provide proof of continued employment eligibility if she wants to keep her job. We'll do the I-9 this weekend with items from lists B and C and I'll tell her not to accept any BS from them concerning her green card.

Thanks for the info!

AKDiver

When you file the I-751 to remove conditions on residency, what happens when your existing PR card expires? Do you get a receipt or something else that indicates one is eligible for employment while the I-751 application is pending?

My wife's employer doesn't seem real interested in being accomodating here. She got a call from her HR dept today reminding her that her PR card expires in about 4 months. I get the feeling that 1 day past its expiration date they might show her the door.

Anyone know anything definitive here?

Cheers!

AKDiver

Don't ever come back, then; we sure as hell wouldn't want you in my great state.

What ever happened to, "Y'all come back now, y'hear?"

Cheers!

AKDiver

Sounds like a problem of hooking up with a married person and/or out shopping while still married to me.

In the end, cash bribes usually work in this kind of thing. Just offer her $10,000 or something to do the paperwork. Money talks - BS walks.

Good luck!

AKDiver

I gotta disagree on the flat...I live near the mountains in NC. They're hardly flat.

Sure it is. All you have are the stubs of once-great mountains.

There's hardly too many people or too much traffic, not compared to the northeast of the country

I don't want to live there either. (:

It really is just a matter of opinion

Of course.

but you obviously haven't been *everywhere* in the south, otherwise you wouldn't say its flat

I've been to all those states, and even lived in some of them. In fact, I've been to every state except Idaho, Nebraska, and, North Dakota. I lived in Virginia for over 20 years, and NC isn't any less flat than it is. But hey, compared to Alaska, most everywhere is flat. (:

I can only assume the part of Michigan you sniffed was not Detroit, and just out of curiosity, where does Utah rank on the smell-o-meter?

I didn't drive through Detroit. To be fair, I was trying to avoid Michigan so I drove through Canada, but I had to stop on the Michigan side of Sault Ste. Marie to get some tires changed at the Honda place and do some laundry at the laundrymat. So, I didn't smell much of Michigan, but it does get bonus points for being next to Canada. (: As for Utah, I don't remember any bad smell, and I was there recently too - but I had the windows rolled up most of the time because it was so hot.

Also, akdiver couldn't have been within 161 km of NYC

Sure I was - but I don't want to live there. My positive comments about NY were about upstate, not the NYC area. The reason why I liked it was because I just thought the drive on the NY Thruway was nice - and they also get a lot of snow.

Pffft, we have enough carpetbaggers moving to Texas already; we don't really need any more. laughing.gif They come for the jobs, they stay for the quality of life. Who the hell would want to live anywhere else?

You must be kidding...see my post in the other thread about pissing on Texas when I moved away.

If I had my druthers I would live in Portland, OR

Any state where they prevent you from pumping your own gas so they can create minimum wage jobs for losers who want to scratch your car with the pump nozzle sucks - there are no two ways about it. Factor in Oregon's goofy land use laws and proximity to California and you have a formula for making the bottom of my list.

Cheers!

AKDiver

I lived in Texas for a while. When I finally got to leave I couldn't wait. I drove non-stop until I got to Oklahoma. When I got across the state line, I pulled over, got out of the car, and walked on over to the "Welcome to Texas" sign. Then I dropped my pants and took a piss on Texas, vowing never to return.

Cheers!

AKDiver

Give me your top 10.

Off the top of my head, and without too much thought:

1. too hot
   
2. too little rain
   
3. too much rain
   
4. too many hurricanes
   
5. too much government
   
6. culture
   
7. too flat
   
8. too much BS in general
   
9. too dark in summer
   
10. too many farm animals
    
11. too much religion
    
12. too many people
    
13. too much crime
    
14. too much pollution
    
15. gangs
    
16. cheerleaders
    
17. football
    
18. too much law enforcement
    
19. too much traffic
    
20. too many taxes
    

but can you deny that there are men on this board that go out SPECIFICALLY in search of Eastern European women??

Maybe they're just specifically AVOIDING American women....

Cheers!

AKDiver

1). Draw a line across the U.S. through Washington D.C. Exclude everywhere south of that line.

Why?

2). Now exclude California and Oregon just on general principle.

Which principle?

1). I find that region to be uninhabitable, for reasons too numerous to list here.

2a). On the principle that California Sucks - for reasons too numerous to list, but are intuitively obvious.

2b). On the principle that Oregon is too close to California, and it also sucks on its own merits.

Well the motorcycle's gas smells, that's for sure!

Uh, no, not at all - unless maybe you're riding something built 50 years ago or something. That's not me. (:

Hope this helps.

Cheers!

AKDiver

This thread has turned into one that falls into the 'amusement' category.

Your secret is out Jen. It's like passing a really bad accident where there are several people obviously dead in a mangled mess of metal. You just can't look away!! We have you now!!!!! (:

Cheers!

AKDiver

I rarely pay attention to what forum a post is in...

Imagine your efficiency gains if you did.

Cheers!

AKDiver

If I were paranoid I would be making statements, not asking questions.

A topic thread of "NVC and their discrimination" looks like a pretty strong statement to me.

Cheers!

AKDiver

With all the women scammers out there, in every country, a little turn-about is only fair.

This sounds about like something Cam would say. I stand by my previous, "I hope he gets burned" comment and would add some specificity with, "I hope he ends up robbed, beaten, stripped naked, and left out in the middle of nowhere with a tatoo on his forehead that reads 'Я плохой американский'".

And to all you women who have "good, women-respecting" fiancees/husbands from countries other than Russia/Asia (I'm wondering why you're even browsing through the Russia forum other than to display another of your womanly traits.... BEING NOSY!!!

This, I agree with. Either being nosy, looking for entertainment, or to look down upon those who are here. It could be any or all of those. I dunno why else one would stumble in here.

please open your eyes and realize that women in (some) foreign countries are sometimes a commodity

While it may be true that women in some cultures are turned into a commodity, or turn themselves into a commodity, that's beyond one's control. However, if one TREATS women as a commodity, then one has noone to blame but oneself. What we have seen in several posts here is some people clearly view women as a commodity. Let's hope such people are not too surprised when the tables get turned and they find themselves being treated as such.

Karama is a funny thing.

Cheers!

AKDiver

I have never thought of evaluating the US in terms of odours lol...that's a point of view!...maybe I should get check my nose to the doctor!

Drive around the country on a motorcycle for eight weeks and you'll get an appreciation for it. (:

Cheers!

AKDiver

Well, thats why it is called trivia. It is trivial knowledge that means jack. Its impractical as hell. Much like calling Alaska the 'eastern most' state. Yes, based on longitude it is, but direction is purely relative to where you are, no matter what old mariners decided 100's of years ago when they placed Grenich as the 'center of the world'. It was given as a reference point, not meant to be relative. You aren't going to tell me you are going to travel east to the Rat islands from Anchorage?

Well, by that standard, there is no "easternmost", as no matter where you are, you can always go east, relative to where you are. Same for "westernmost". You can always just keep going and going and going. Therefore, by that standard, every point on earth is both east and west of every other point (exceptions can be applied at the poles, depending on the logic you choose), and therefore it's meaningless to say that "this point is east of that point", as it's just as equally "west of that point". Seems rather ridiculous to me - probably why "they" set up a point of reference, eh? All hail the Prime Meridian (:

Cheers!

AKDiver

Women seem to be a mere commodity. Sad for them.

You know, if you bother to read the whole thread (and a few others), you would know that MOST of us do not fall into this camp, and are in fact expressing the same derision towards those who do.

Cheers!

AKDiver

Has anyone heard of longer waits at NVC for Russian fiancees? My petition has been at NVC for over 2 months now, without any information, but Administrative Review? This looks like as bad as a CS! Has anyone had this problem before? I am pretty upset, because I am afraid they lost it!

Do you have any evidence of this "discrimination", or are you just generally paranoid?

FWIW, our NVC to Russian Embasy timeline info is 09-Mar-05 to 31-Mar-2005 (22 days), which was pre-IMBRA, and a metric fuckload less time than a lot of people have to wait.

Discrimination? I don't think so.

Cheers!

AKDiver

My buddy that went to Moscow with me in 2005 just went to the Philippines last week. He reported that the three-way, four-way, or however-many-ways strikes your fancy, go for about 10% of what they go for in Moscow. So, if that's what you're interested in, Manila is the place, not Moscow. (I've heard nothing but good things about Bangkok in that department as well.)

Thanks for the chuckle, slim (:

But in all seriousness - by the time you factor in the time and plane fare, I'm sure one could just get it locally and still save a ton of money. (:

Cheers!

AKDiver

Are you the VJ gossip ####### or what? You sound like an old woman. If you know a couple you think has a huge age differene, at least of the guts to name names.

1). I was trying to keep from being personal and avoid a flame war.

2). I have no interest or time to go back and look at photos and spot the huge-age-difference couples and report them in my post.

But thanks for playing.

As for the more thoughtful and intelligent responses...I think you missed the point....which has to do with being honest with the women one is going to meet. Specifically, withholding the fact that you plan to meet multiple women on such a trip is dishonest. The fact that one would withhold this information indicates that one has reason to believe that the women he/she is going to meet would not like it and there can be no other reason to hide this useful piece of information. As I said several times before in various threads - the criticism is all about being dishonest, not meeting multiple women on the same trip. Incidentially, withholding the fact that one is communicating with multiple men/women is equally dishonest.

With that said - you're right. Go meet whomever you want, meet them all, maybe you can get lucky and have a three-way (or a four-way, or however-many-ways strikes your fancy). Spend that cash like its water in the stream. Have a good time! But while you're doing it, please keep in mind that peoples' feelings are involved and that what goes around eventually comes around.

Good luck!

AKDiver

Just curious how hard it is to get a tourist visa for my inlaws. My father in-law is retired which I hear makes it easier.

My inlaws are here on a tourist visa as we speak. They got here um, Thursday night, will be here for two weeks.

The visa process is absolutely painless and is well documented on the embassy website. Additionally, I answered this question and included links to info in another thread:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=21257

Good luck!

AKDiver