Dan Nguyen

You seriously don't "get it". If China decides to unilaterally invade VN, it will not be them strolling in and letting freedom fighters exist. They will have learned from the past and simply exterminate ANY resistance, and anyone that might possibly ever resist. They would secure ALL VN resources for their use. They already have population controls in China, so letting a viet live takes up room where a Chinese could live. It will not be some glorified VC struggle where HCM descends from the clouds to liberate his people against a wrongful aggressor. At this point in time, they can do this attrocity virtually unopposed by the meager VN forces. Stop believing your own propaganda and face the real facts. You are severely undergunned, totally outnumbered, vastly under budgeted, and need foreign help to survive. If your leader talked the same BS as you have said here to the Chinese.....it could get VERY ugly VERY fast. A poor country with 100 million people does not beat an affluent country with over to a billion people no matter how much you wish it is so.

BTW, there are many smart people here, but NONE have said VN has even a small chance in a confrontation with China. That should tell you something.

Anyway, thanks for the debate and good luck to you. I truly mean that

Yeah, speaking of propaganda....let's not confuse your opinion with facts.....

I dated and married a VN girl only to be duped, but still love VN and the wonderful people there. Her and her family said they don't live in the past, but unfortunately you keep bringing up battles from the 60's and 70's which have absolutely zero to do with today's modern warfare, economics, and political landscape. Trust me, the world is own your side, but without world support, Ha Noi and the rest of VN would fall to the Chinese in a matter of days, not weeks or months.

I realize that at this point we are debating a bunch of what if's, but the simple fact remains.......VN alone does not stand even the slightest hope of fending off the Chinese at this point in time.

Yeah, right. You always know a bully when you see one. It's the guy who flexes his muscle and make a lot of noise and hope the other guy would back down.

We bring up battles from the past to make a point. Military power alone cannot win a war if you don't learn from the mistakes of the past and it looks like the chinese are about to make another mistake.

You keep throwing this word alone out there. That Vietnam cannot stand against China without world support. What support are you talking about? Sympathy? Technology? Weapons? In the end, the Vietnamese would still have to do the fighting alone.

One thing's for sure. This is not Vietnam's first dance with China. You can bet the chinese are thinking long and hard before they engage Vietnam in a fight.

Yes, but the local politics of the US prevented the military from completing it's mission, which is well documented. But I'm not here to comment on the past and what if's...........your current reality is that China's public opinion doesn't matter to it's leaders, so they will not bend to local public pressure as the US and French did.

Well, even if they don't care what their people think. They have to care what the world thinks, and right now I don't see anybody siding with them....

But what do I need to do here to get married over there?

Go to Vietnamese Embassy website. It's all there.

First off I didn't mean the marrage won't happen it will, I meant the k-1 visa isn't going to happen. She can't answer questions about my job anyway since I don't have one. And lets face it being a union carpenter and working for different companies just doesn't seem to fit this mold, so I would have to find a new career which will start out low paying, although I think a minimum wage job would be enough to pass the 125% of poverity or close to it. And if I'm over there we will be together and won't care as much about how long this takes. She thinks she can get me a job teaching English over there, and she can keep her job as a graphic designer which she would have to give up until she gets that green card thing, if she moved here.

I already wrote her an e-mail telling her to look into different idea's, but I'm thinking I will head over and spend a month there and test the water, then come home either sale my house, then go get married and apply for the different visa that lets me have a co-sponser. I think I have 5 years before I lose my american citizenship, right?

Or find a different job here but its very frustrating to have to give up a $30 dollar hour job that is "off and on" for a $10 an hour steady job. I have already tried this because it bugged me to not be working full time, but I made less with the steady job then I did with the higher paying "off and on" job.

One way or the other we will be together just don't know which country LOL!!!

But what do I need to do here to get married over there?

Follow through with the K-1. If she gets deny, then get marry and file for IR-1.

And when they ask the fiance' what does he do for a living? Where does he work? what is his boss's name? How far does he work from home? The fact that he is not working will come out or, worse, they could look at itlike she doesn't know enough about him for the relationship to be valid... plenty of time to find a job between now and when the interview will hit... Why not just find gainful income as the unemployment won't last forever...

I would say tell them the truth. He's an independent contractor. His work is not steady but he does make enough to meet the Poverty Guideline. At least she'll have a slim chance if she goes to the interview. If he abandons the petition, she has no chance....finding work now is not going to do any good because he won't be employ long enough comes interview day.

I don't think this part is true. You can get a 5-year visa that allows a 90-day stay each entry. I've read that you can renew it twice while in the country (never tried that), after which you must leave and re-enter (probably do a border run to Cambodia)

It is true. I stayed with my wife for two years while waiting for her visa to be approve.

The only thing you have to do is extend your visa every three months at Vietnam Immigration office of the jurisdiction you're staying.

Well thanks everyone, not good news but at least I didn't waste more time and money trying this. Our dreams are smashed but I'm going to head to vietnam, I sent the fiancee the bad news, my career choice just isn't going to support this, I told her to start looking into getting married over there, and start asking about visa's and jobs.

If you plan to marry her over there....you have to start the paper works in the U.S.

There are certains things you need to do before you go to Vietnam.....

Wow, that's bad advice.

Not really, I did the exact same thing and I succeeded.....

Xin chao I'm not defending China at all and truly love my experiences with the viet public, but a reality check is in order. Without the backing of the worldwide community, there is little you can do to stop the absolutely massive and well armed Chinese. If you were indeed faced with the total might of the Chinese, without worldwide intervention, you will be occupied without a doubt. I'm talking military logistics, armament, and capability, not what is "right". The entirety of the viet forces would be little more than a speed bump to China's massive, well trained, well armed ground forces.

I do not doubt the commitment and will to fight of the noble Vietnamese, and I'd gladly stand in arms with you, but to infer you would do anything more than be overrun and die quickly is a dream. Fortunately the international community will not allow such aggression from China.

Well, didn't the U.S. and France also have a massive, well trained, well armed ground forces?

Ok well thanks I will tell my fiancee it just isn't going to happen, can you put this process on hold until I find a new career.

Don't tell her that....let her go to the interview with your 2011, 2010, 2009 tax returns. That should be enough to prove on going income.

If they want more....give them your paystubs and tell em you're an independent contractor....if that fails....go to Vietnam....marry her and file for IR-1 Visa.

If you're married to a Vietnamese citizen, you can stay there as long as you want....

What will happen to the immigration visas if war broke out between China and some members of the Association of South East Asian Nations (ASEAN) in the next 6 months?

As China's economic and military rise, so does its bad behavior in dealing with its neighbors in the disputed sovereignty of the East Sea. Chances for wars or military conflicts between China and Vietnam are getting closer and closer to reality. The Vietnamese are preparing to fight and defend their country as the Chinese aggressively moving in for an invasion just like they tried to do for over 1000 years as well as in 1979. The Philippines are also being invaded by the Chinese unlawfully. However, Chinese economic successful in the past 30 years doesn't mean that they can successfully achieve their empire. Never underestimate the will to fight off invaders from the Vietnamese people, never! It doesn't matter how long it will take or how much the price is, the Vietnamese people will never never allow these aggressors to wrongfully step on the mother land. Question is, what will happen to the pending immigration visas if war broke out in Vietnam.

Don't know if it's true or not but I hear Vietnam has already given up or sold land to the Chinese in the North....

need CRBA guide, step by step please, and all the forms relate to crba-----in Ho Chi Minh City

HCMC consulate website under U.S. Citizens Services.

I have pay stubs from this year showing I made more then required, but that job is over and I'm currentily unemployed, and wasn't wanting to look for new work because I want to go be with her, in vietnam.

I have tax returns going back to 1998 that show I made more then this years poverty level, and my 1997 was above that years poverty level.

They usually ask for three most recent tax returns. Sometimes they ask for most recent paystubs. I'd seek a joint sponsor just in case.....

Oh and thank you both for the info!!!

The consulate would want to see proof of your income. Paystub, tax returns....etc....they're not concern with why you don't have it.

If you plan to marry her over there, make sure you know all the obstacles of filing for marriage certificate in Vietnam.

Ho Chi minh City.

My wife just pass her CR1 interview today. They said they will send her the visa thru mail which barely reach to the house in Vietnam. Does anyone know how long it usually take?

don't they keep her passport and attach the visa to it and tell her to pick it up in a few weeks?

I'm thinking I made a mistake doing this, should have just married her in vietnam,wonder what vietnam citizenship requires.

You sound like you have enough money to live in Vietnam for a few years. If you do go that route, you'd need a joint sponsor because the consulate is interested in your current income, not past.

You can also marry her in Vietnam and file I-130, but that would mean dealing with Vietnamese officials for your marriage certificate, and also with U.S. consulate when you file I-130.

Why do you want Vietnamese citizenship?

Hello VJ,

Me and my wife ready to send in the I130 Package, all the follow items include in the package, if anything miss please advice thanks a punch.

1. I-130

2. G-325a x 2 petitioner and benificial

3. G-1145

4. Payment as required by USCIS

5. Cover Letter I130

6. Copy of the full Birth certificate/ 2 front pages of passport of me

7. proof of naturalization. Petitioner

8. proof of permanent residency Petitioner

9. marriage certificate-translate to english

10. One passport-type photo of me and spouse

11. Evidence of a bonafide marriage

photo of us when I travel to VN visiting HER

airline ticker tub

bank account in VN

photo of our wedding and guest

photo of our families

* anything we miss please give us some advice thank alot VJ

I'm guessing you guys have a child? If so, does he/she have a CRBA?

Tiger33, My wife and I are in a similar situation. I'm an american-born citizen, and she's a VN national. We now have a 4 month old son together and would like to visit my family in the US so they can meet my wife and baby. The problem is that she can't get a tourist visa (denied 3x now), so it seems like our only option is to get a IR1/CR1 spouse visa, then go to the US for a month, and then return to Vietnam to continue living our normal lives for the following couple years. Does anyone know if that plan will work?

Do you have marriage certificates and birth certificate for your son? Is your son a USC? Why did they denied her tourist visa? An IR-1 is an immigration visa. Not sure if she can go back to Vietnam to continue her normal life.

Hi all,

I need a Vietnamese police check.

I am not Vietnamese and I am living in Australia.

I don't have any friends or relatives ,who live in Vietnam.

I have contacted Vietnamese Embassy in Australian,

they just said"your friend could apply it for you."

I also don't have a temporary residence card.

So, how can I get a Vietnamese police check from overseas?

And If I can't get it, what happen to my USA visa application?

Sorry, I have too many questions.

Thank you for your advise, I'd appreciate your any reply.

Try the local police station of where ever you lived. Didn't you have to fill out some type of temporary registration of stay every three months while you were there? Ifthat doesn't work, try the So Tu Phap office.

If you try to get someone there to do it for you, be prepare to pay out some cash.

I am doing the CR-1/I-130 and need to translation birth certificate from Vietnamese into English. Where should I do this? Can it be done by Uy Ban Nhan Dan Quan 1 Dich Thuat and accepted by the US?

Thanks

Just go into any lawyers or immigration services office in Vietnam and they'll do it for you. Most of them already has the document in their computer. All they do is fill in your personal info and put their stamp on it. Cost about 150,000 - 200,000 VND. Turn around time, about a day. You can then take it to U.S. consulate's American Citizen Services and get it notarize. In our case, I didn't even get it notarized and they accepted it.

Which one is better (Cho Ray Hospital) or (IOM) for those who has completed the process already and how many day do you have to wait to get the medical result in hand? According to the consular website it say result take about 2 day to be completed.

IOM. Call for appointment.

Hi, I am new to this forum.

Me and my fiance are planning to apply for the fiance visa in February 2013 (because I'm still studying my last year at university).

I know this is a very hard question to answer but I'm just wondering which type of visa is easier to process and apply for: Spouse Visa or Fiance Visa (K1)? Especially when me and my fiance are still young (I'm turning 21 and he's turning 20 this year). Will it affect our visa application?

Hope to hear some answers soon! Thank you!

K-1 is easier, but you'll have to provide Affidavit of Support on your own. No joint sponsor. So find a job that meets the current Poverty Guide Line.

Hi guys

My wife has a distance relative live in US(New York), this person is a daughter of my wife's grandmother's sister, so when CO ask my wife if she has any relative in US, what would be the best answer ?

Thanks

SnK--

Best answer is what you just wrote.

Hi everyone,

I applied for the I-129F application to petition my fiancee in Vietnam in March 2012 and I received the NOA1 a week later. Since then I sign on to the uscis.gov website to check for my application status everyday but so far nothing is done to my application. I mailed with my application around 50 pictures of us met many times within my two trips back to Vietnam in the last 2 years and all the phone bills, letters,...airline tickets .....

We love each other so much and I don't know how I would live without her if they deny our application. I do research online and read many info of the K-1 Visa on the Vietnamese forums, some websites.... and many of these websites say that the chance to pass the interview is very small, the consulate officials would mostly deny any K-1 Visa application. I am so worried, I am so worried. Would you please provide any official info of the denial rate for the K-1 Visa in Vietnam for me to know. For example, out of 10 applications, how many would pass the interview and how many would fail?

Thanks

I would say 8-9 out of 10 gets denied first time around. Most gets green 221g requesting more info. I've seen a few gets white and told petition will be sent back to USCIS. This is from personal observations from HCMC consulate while my wife was going through the K-1 and IR-1 process.

Be prepare for a long and lengthy process. HCMC consulate is one of the busiest and most difficult consulate for visa interview.

You visited Vietnam twice in two years. How long did you stay and how much time did you guys spent together? The longer you guys knows each other, the better her chance of getting approve. Not sure if "meeting many times within my two trips back to Vietnam." will cut it with the C.O.

Photos, phone bills, letters, airline tickets, etc, etc... are fine as evidence but they don't actually prove your relationship. C.O. will examine evidence in conjunction with interview to make a decision. Your fiancee has to be able to prove relationship is real by a reasonable person standard to the C.O. If she can do this first time around, she will get pink (approval). If she fails to do this, she will most likely be deny with 221g requesting for more information or evidence. Hopefully, she won't get white.

The only thing I can say about this process is, it might take a long time. But if you don't give up, eventually you'll get her here.