KarimaG

I'm a permanent resident of Morocco, and owned a home there before I married a Moroccan. Still, marriage is no protection from being kicked out when they decide you have to go.

Well ####### that sucks! But, how can one be called a 'permanent resident' and kick you out if they decide for you to go?

The same thing can happen to a PR here. Countries have the right to control who exists within their borders. I don't worry about getting kicked out, but I'm unlikely to become indigent and my family is well established there since the 1920's.

Thanks Sofiyya for your reply to my question! :-D

I'm a permanent resident of Morocco, and owned a home there before I married a Moroccan. Still, marriage is no protection from being kicked out when they decide you have to go.

Well ####### that sucks! But, how can one be called a 'permanent resident' and kick you out if they decide for you to go?

Mulling over plan B on 'temporarily' moving to Morocco. This is what I cam across. I was under the impression that one could reside in Morocco with no limit of theyre stay. Wondering what anyone else knows or has come across...

ENTRY REQUIREMENT: The Moroccan immigration authorities require that U.S. citizens possess a valid passport to enter the country (student and military identity cards are not accepted). At present, vaccinations are not required. Upon your arrival, you may be asked to produce evidence that you have financial resources sufficient to cover your expenses during your stay in Morocco.

LENGTH OF STAY: Although entry visas are not required, you must declare your intention to become a resident within 15 days of your arrival or depart Morocco three months after your arrival. Failure to comply with the three month regulation may result in prosecution by Moroccan authorities.

Information taken from: http://casablanca.usconsulate.gov/visareqformorocco.html

I wonder if this applies if your married to a citizen???

I contacted the rep for our congressman today. Basically I dont know at this point for what use... she stated all they can do is 'find out why'.... and they cant intervien in any way. There is no reason why. So how the hell can that help me? On the same note, a friend of mine had her interview yesterday, got the same women, and was denied for bogus #######... "oh, well, she works and has children, soo... ur fake too!" This women at the embassy is really on a role...

AP doesnt actually bother me. I thought from the beginning that there was a 99% chance that he would go through AP. What bothers me above all is the attitude that the officer had. In every turn of questioning she accussed him of being a fraud. She was unbelievable from the beginning. Anyhoo, that all aside, I contacted a family friend Senator Denton, who told me he had no power over this and to contact Congressman Griffith who told me to contact his assistant in which I did. I explained to her what happened in the interview, and she told me to fact her a letter stating that I give them permission to act on my behalf, and to put into the letter my question and concerns about what happened in the interview and about the proof that was not looked at. And any thoughts that I had on our relationship. Does anyone have any other thoughts on this?

I knew from the beginning it would be tough. I knew that he would be in AP, but never did I think she would accuse him of being a fraud. Becuase we're not frauds... so that never came into my mind. And if she were to have asked if we were frauds, fine! But to keep repeatedly attacking him on that is another. If she would have seen our pictures and proof she would have seen that were were not fake.

Well, atleast we can look at one point, the game is not over, he was not denied. But I cant help but wonder if she has already denied him in her mind, just the denied stamp hasnt made it to paper yet! I do appreciate everyone for theyre help... Thanks alot!

I called the embassy today and they told me that the officer was reviewing the information and he is just in AP and they would contact him. And at the same time I was talking to them on phone I received this email:

Dear Madam,

Thank you for your email inquiry. Your fiancé’s case requires additional administrative processing. We will notify him as soon as the processing is complete.

Please let us know if you have any further questions.

Regards,

Immigration Visa Unit

United States Consulate General

8 Boulevard Moulay Youssef

Casablanca, Morocco

Email Address: ivcasablanca@state.gov

Public inquiries number: 0661 99 83 64. Hours: 3-4 pm

Frequently asked questions: http://casablanca.usconsulate.gov/faqs.html

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But even though they say AP still doesnt sound good by the way the interview went. I wonder if anyone else has had crappy interviews like this and still gotten approved.

I have been reading the replies and I appologize for not writing back sooner. I have been in bed sick all day with migraine. I kept waking up and thinking that im dreaming this. I dont know what to do, Im just really in shock over this. Even though I read all the advice it all looks foreign to me. If I called a congressman or senator what would I say? I did email embassy to find out the status of our case though. And I wrote them a email explaining that we were not fake, etc etc etc... I imagine I wont hear anything for a couple of days. I called the embassy at 4:30 there time but they were already closed. But tomorrow when Im not in numb mode, I will read all this again and figure out what to do next.... thanks....

Call DOS now. They have the info in their system from the interview as it is all done electronically.

I asked them if there is any way that they could look it up and they said no.. The questions were like this:

Where was I born? And how long did I live there before moved

Questions about my daughter

About meeting him in a chat room

Why didnt I finish high school

What did I do after I quit high shool

Asked about previous employment history

Stated: Our "paperwork is too organized... and soo appears to be fake."

I wish I would have called Casablanca this morning but had a migrain all night so I guess I'll try to call tomorow.

Call DOS now. They have the info in their system from the interview as it is all done electronically.

I just talked to DOS and they said I have to call emabssy that its out of theyre hands now.

Please fill in a timeline and also what type of visa. That is strange that nothing was given back to him, any paper or something.

I just called embassy and they are closed at the moment. We filed a K1 visa. But nope.. nothing. Trying to find recent interview results (ppl sharing stories), because I wanted to see if anyone had this much of a hard before.. did they end up getting called backfor a 2nd interview, and after receiving such a diffifult time like this, did they still get theyre visa. Thanks for everyones help!

They should give you something, but it's possible that something got mixed up.

I would call/email them and make sure there isn't anything else you should be doing

IS there a way to check the status of our case online?

Im am trying to see if there is a way to check the status of out case. He has already been through the interview process, but was given nothing at the end. Thanks!

Im tryng to find the lastes interview reviews for Casablanca, Morocco. Did they take ur passport? Anyone not get a paper in the end? Is there a way to look at the status on my case right now online? Thanks!!

My fiances english is good, to me that is... I dont already have one lined up. Just dont know what to do. Im just really shocked that they can think we are fake after so much evidence that we had. I did email them... to exlplain about our feelings for each other which are not fake... but did not ask about status... i guess i'll do that right now.. But even if they put u in AP wouldnt they give u a paper anout the next step??? Thanks for everyones help! Its greatly appreciated... Im just dont know what to do now and am pretty much sleepless.

Wasnt planning on making this public... but maybe someone has something to offer that would help. At this point nothing can hurt. He had his appointment at 8am. I stayed up all night waiting to hear news... and still have not slept. Then I finally get a call... from the beginning it immediately went south. A woman interviewed him. She wasnt nice at all. Was very harsh and accusing. She asked questions like.. for starters because our paperwork was soo organized, too organized in her opinion, she thought our relationship was fake and even said soo. She asked where we met. We met on a chat group on the internet. She at that point looked it up on the internet and tried to look for my profile. She could not find it because I have not been on there since we met in February 2008. So then again she accussed him of lying. She refused to take all the proof we had. And I had tons of it. She refused to look at out pictures... had tons of those too. She didnt take anything... and she grilled him for about 25 minutes and the whole time accussing us of being fake. Its soo laughable and completely obsurd.

They did not give him a paper. No paper at all. I thought he would get a paper that said SOMETHING! But he didnt get anything. She gave him back his passport and told him they would call him, and 'bye'.

I just cant believe it.

The bank will give him a receipt to bring to the consulate. They will charge him whatever the going rate is in dirhams for the $131.

... the banks are all closed where he is now. No not able to pay in dollars. How would one from here pay the BMCI bank?

I am sure that the bank can exchange the dirham into dollars prior to paying the fee there.

My understanding is that the fees are always paid in dollars.

His interview is not until monday, however, his interview is at 8:00am... the banks are all closed where he is now. No not able to pay in dollars. How would one from here pay the BMCI bank?

Got a quick question.... papers received state $131 paid in cash at the consulate or at any BMCI bank. Can this be paid in Dh eqivalant to $131.00? Fiance wasnt able to receive money in american dollar, but was just given the option of dirham only and wanted to make sure he can pay in dirhams.

Thanks alot for any quick replies!

Okay, thanks a bunch for your replies!!

I think I read someplace that each paper, depending on the signifcance has a color. Like one color for AP, one color for a denial, and I 'THINK" if you get a pink paper its an approval. Is this true?

My fiance has his interview on Monday and was just wondering this. Becuase I was thinking that after his interview they will give him a paper. So, just wondering.... Thanks!

It took me 2 weeks to get my passport. I applied at city hall, and paid $75 for mine. For an additional $25 I think I could have done expediated and received it in 7 days but stayed with the regular process. I person I knew at the time of applying told me it took her 6 months to get hers. I forget where she was going, I believe she said France. Also, the youth group at my church at the time were taking a trip to the Ukraine, and it took them 3 months to get theres. So I wonder if it depends where your going and the time of year you apply for it. Duno!

Marhaba KarimaG,

I hope you get the approval faster than you expect. Wish you a fast and problem-free journey.

Omg I hope soo too! Either way... I know everything will be ok. Most times life isnt the path we choose to take, and if the first road doesnt work out, just take another. Theres always a road to take you where you want to go you just have to search for it! Thanks for everyones well wishing! (((Hugs!)))

Im planning on going to Morocco. And the only reason for going would be if he waqs denied his visa, or if we were in AP too long. His interview in on Monday. Just trying to get a plan B going... . lolol

Are you implying that you have to become Morroccon citizen to marry in Morroco ?

Wow.

No, sorry, never implied that. The question from the beginning of the thread was "if I moved to morocco is there ever a risk of losing my united states citizenship?" Which my family seems to be under the impression I would. Nope, I never implied that someone has to become a moroccan citizen to be able to marry a moroccan.

But to some others that responded, I personally am not concerned about losing citizenship. I really dont think its possible, so Im not worried in that respect... lol I was trying to gather information for my family who seems to want to insist that I would, and find out some details for them. Im just really hoping who interviews him has a good start in the morning and not in a 'mood'. Im hoping the interview moves smoothly. I seen a couple threads on mena where one seems to be approved, and one was approved so that gives me hope. Ive been waiting so long for this day and really hope it turns out good. BUT! If it doesnt, I will just simply go there! And if he gets stuck in AP I plan on going there and waiting it out with him, and 'enjoy" my time, and think of it as an extended vacation! Everyone has really been great on this thread and I appreciate so much everyones responses!!! Thanks so much! Nowwwwww im going to bed! hhh

Hi Karima,

Don't listen to them.

Check out DCF - it is for people who get married when they are residents or have visas in a foreign country and have gotten married.

The K-3 visa/ IR-1/ CR-1 are for people who are already married and most were married overseas. That is a huge part of this site. All those people obviously did not lose their citizenships. As the other posters say, you lose your citizenship when you give it up.

Read this for more info: http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_778.html

It does say you can lose it by being naturalized into a foreign country. But usually being a Permanent Resident is not the same as citizenship, so I wouldn't worry.

If you are going to live abroad, you can register with the Department of State and then if anything happens in the country where you are staying, they send you emails and stuff and obviously try and help you if anything happens to you.

Well I was going to bed. Which part was I not supposed to listen too? This was what I found a few minutes ago...

This is taken from the U.S. Department of State website... http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1753.html

The concept of dual nationality means that a person is a citizen of two countries at the same time. Each country has its own citizenship laws based on its own policy.Persons may have dual nationality by automatic operation of different laws rather than by choice. For example, a child born in a foreign country to U.S. citizen parents may be both a U.S. citizen and a citizen of the country of birth.

A U.S. citizen may acquire foreign citizenship by marriage, or a person naturalized as a U.S. citizen may not lose the citizenship of the country of birth.U.S. law does not mention dual nationality or require a person to choose one citizenship or another. Also, a person who is automatically granted another citizenship does not risk losing U.S. citizenship. However, a person who acquires a foreign citizenship by applying for it may lose U.S. citizenship. In order to lose U.S. citizenship, the law requires that the person must apply for the foreign citizenship voluntarily, by free choice, and with the intention to give up U.S. citizenship.

Intent can be shown by the person's statements or conduct.The U.S. Government recognizes that dual nationality exists but does not encourage it as a matter of policy because of the problems it may cause. Claims of other countries on dual national U.S. citizens may conflict with U.S. law, and dual nationality may limit U.S. Government efforts to assist citizens abroad. The country where a dual national is located generally has a stronger claim to that person's allegiance.

However, dual nationals owe allegiance to both the United States and the foreign country. They are required to obey the laws of both countries. Either country has the right to enforce its laws, particularly if the person later travels there.Most U.S. citizens, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter and leave the United States. Dual nationals may also be required by the foreign country to use its passport to enter and leave that country. Use of the foreign passport does not endanger U.S. citizenship. Most countries permit a person to renounce or otherwise lose citizenship.

Information on losing foreign citizenship can be obtained from the foreign country's embassy and consulates in the United States. Americans can renounce U.S. citizenship in the proper form at U.S. embassies and consulates abroad.

Also read... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_citizenship

Dual citizenship

A person having a dual nationality does not lose Moroccan nationality

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moroccan_nationality_law

Don't freak out u will be just fine! and again you will not lose your citizenship by marrying a foreiner or staying abroad for a along time. My cousin stayed abroad for almost 10 yrs and he came to the state's without any problem; he is a born American citizen. hope that make's u feel better.

Yes that does make me feel better! But what will realllllllly make me feel better is if he got approved on Monday and wont have to worry about any of this at all! lol Know why they call it a visa journey... wowoww isnt it a long journey! It kind of feel like going on a trip and being stuck on the car for 20 hours and driving through sleet, rain and snow.. then finally getting able to get home to the warm bed! Just waiting for it to be over and get to that warm bed! Speaking of... Im off to bed!!!!!!! Catch u guys tomorrow! Thanks again!