TracyHamza

Thanks for replying ...i agree with more time passing before applying and with my staying in Tunisia it will also help show our marriage is legitimate and sincere...unfortunately we don't have much in the way of documented evidence other than photos (and if need be, written statements from his family and friends) and of course proof of my staying here in Tunisia with him..the lack of documented evidence such as emails, worries me a little but I'm hoping that the length of time I've been here will show validity and as I'm still in Tunisia for the time being I continue to put more time in with him...if we decide to file it will still be at least another 6 months or so before starting the process

Well folks, after quite a few years I'm back...I have some general questions I'd like to ask just to see what I'll be up against IF IF IF my husband and I decide to file a spouse visa for him as he is just fine with staying in Tunisia...I was previously married and obtained an IR-1 visa for my then husband. Almost 2 years after being in the US our marriage headed south. I want to point out to the would-be haters that our marriage was LEGIT but we just had too many issues and ended the marriage in Oct. of 2012. I remarried last year and I am currently living in Tunisia with my hubby and have been here 1 year this month and IF IF IF we do decide to file it would still be some time yet before we do...at least 6 months or more.... I already know the in's and out's of possible consulate issues but as this would be my second time around this would open up a whole new set of possible road blocks. For now I'm just looking at whether it would even be worth trying or we'd be better off staying in Tunisia...to be honest I'd prefer to live back home so here goes...I already know a prior visa is a flag...can anyone that has been in a similar situation with a second visa offer any pointers or tips other than the obvious ones that I already am aware of as I've been through the process once before...tips and advice on any possible second-time-around flags, how involved will my ex have to be (I don't speak to him now but he still occasionally calls and visits my mother), just any helpful advice would be great as I'd hate to go through this again and put my husband through this and the outcome not be so great....thanks so much in advance for any responses

I agree with the others DO NOT BUY THE TICKET UNTIL HE HAS THE VISA IN HIS HANDS...I wish you both good luck and best wishes

Congrats...so happy to see more approvals out of Maroc....and you are right, no matter how long the journey, don't give up...it took us nearly 2 years to get my hubby's visa and at times it felt hopeless but we kept fighting....once again, congrats!!!

thanks guys....our next stop will be citizenship tho....will be back around i'm sure, to get advice on that part....woo hoo, no AOS for us thank god...lol

congrulations. Hope your marriage is always this happy. Incha Allah. I head for Morocco next week to support or interview also in Morocco.

I have so much evidence in my suitcase, I have little room for clothes.

wishing you all the best and good luck in your interview!!

Just wanted to say thanks to all the many VJer's that helped us during our visa process....and a HUGE thanks to Moroccoforever for all your advice and help with my many questions....my hubby is home with me and life is GREAT...won't be on much any more so good luck to all those going thru this process (especially going thru Casa) and thanks again!!

short story for ya...when my hubby had his interview a woman was there in the same situation...they had filed a k-1 even tho she was married with a small child...the CO asked her why did you file for k-1 when you are married and she said someone had told her that the k-1 was faster (evidently they hadn't meant to lie, they just didn't do RESEARCH for the correct visa and listened to someone's bad advice)...at the end of the interview the woman got a lifetime ban but they did tell her the child could still get the visa...if the lady you know was married when they filed the k-1 then things are NOT looking good in her situation...people should ALWAYS do some research before they file any petition to make sure they are filing the right one and NEVER EVER lie to immigration or you can ruin your chances for life

my hubby is Moroccan and he's never heard of an unmarried pregnant woman being arrested here even if it is illegal...he says that she just would not be allowed to give the baby the father's name....i have to agree with the other posts...sorry for the sarcasm but consider yourself lucky you managed to get this much of an expedite...some of us have had to wait 2 YEARS to get our SPOUSE to the USA

I also want to say that Morocco is not as 12th century as the OP makes it sound...there ARE shelters here for unmarried pregnant women where they receive food, clothing and prenatal health care....i also want to add that these women don't go to these shelters for fear of being arrested but because their families have disowned them for being unmarried and pregnant...you should look into this as a temporary option until she gets her visa and save money on hotel expenses in Turkey

There's no law in Morocco that can't disappear with a few dirhams thrown the right way.

I lived with my fiance, unmarried, with a child (obviously Moroccan and obviously his), with no residency card, for 6 months in Morocco and never had a problem at all.

my hubby is Moroccan and he's never heard of an unmarried pregnant woman being arrested here even if it is illegal...he says that she just would not be allowed to give the baby the father's name....i have to agree with the other posts...sorry for the sarcasm but consider yourself lucky you managed to get this much of an expedite...some of us have had to wait 2 YEARS to get our SPOUSE to the USA

Of course they'd get sensationalized. Islam the new boogeyman.

It was communists some time ago, now it's muslims. The effects of being constantly told, whether directly or indirectly, that X group is evil lasts for decades. It's why some people still fart blood when they hear "communist" and certain famous people still use the term to scare others into believing them.

Same thing with Islam now and in twenty or thirty years people will still be afraid or hate Muslims.

I'm not a Muslim, but I'm sorry that these stories are being used as the sole representation of an entire faith and its followers. My situation is probably easier than yours, I'm a very successful Hispanic (well, half Hispanic, if that even means anything) and I'd like to stop having the media portray Hispanics as welfare draining, uneducated, gang banging and lazy wastes of life. I get how it feels to have a stereotype be what others see in you as a first impression.

IMO the best way to prove a stereotype wrong is to not act according to what the stereotype you supposedly fall in acts. Being angry and argumentative about it, while understandable, isn't productive into "proving" these notions about your given group of people wrong. By being a good, successful (and I don't mean simply financially), hard working person you are eventually going to make people STFU. Most people are bigoted and hateful out of their own (and sadly, sometimes chosen) ignorance. It's not worth your time to get angry over it; people who are stupid enough to make such a sweeping generalization like "All _______ people are evil" based on stories on people who are obviously from a more radical area/belief/etc aren't worth getting even a little bit annoyed over.

BRAVO...well said...and thank you

LOL...sarah you crazy girl...

in our case they told us why did you bring all this evidence if your marriage is valid but i guarantee they would have asked to see more if we only brought a little.. ...my friend sarah is right on the mark when she has said this consulate is very unpredictable whether it's k-1 or cr/ir-1...bottom line is while it's nice to have an idea of what to expect, no amount of advice or advance prep can determine what will happen there...it's a total crapshoot

for anyone else who has questions about my address....i put in a change of address online with uscis a long time ago to my mothers address because this is where i will temporarily reside whenever my husband and i get back to the US...so since i am not physically in the household and she is not supporting me and will not be supporting me or putting me as a dependent on her taxes does she still need to add me into the household members?

ALSO..when i filed our cr-1 last year i had my own apt. and i was my husbands only sponsor....i need to know if this 864 i filed will even still be valid since the case was returned and is now currently in rebuttal stage (and since i now live in morocco with my husband)...if it is then my mother will still file an 864 and stepdad 864a correct?

if i'm confusing anyone as to my situation pls send me a private msg and i will try to straighten it out so there's not more misunderstandings as i'm getting confused by some of the answers i've gotten....thanks again for the help tho

Yes, she is living in Morocco with her husband. But she is petitioning for a visa DCF, which means that she and her husband intend upon going to the US to live, and if she lists her mother's home as her domicile in the US with her mother co sponsoring, then her mother would have to include them as part of the household. Therefore, she needs to file an I 864 along with Tracy, and her stepfather an I 864a. I went through the same thing- the consulate knew I was living in Morocco, but I shared an address with my mother in the States. I used the forms as I said above, and had no problems.

thanks again sarah...i will need this info for DCF if we go that route...but i was asking this based on our cr-1...i was wondering how to work the sponsor stuff now since our situation has changed...i guess what i'm wanting to know is if the original 864 i filed will still even be counted as our petition was returned...if not do i just start out new with using my mom and stepdad as the sponsors or...?...not sure how that even works with the one i already filed...lol...i'm very confused with all this now...and if i am using my mom's address for that why do i need to be counted as a household member since my mother is not supporting me?....this is just nuts...lol

How long have you lived in Morrocco? If over six months, you can DCF at the US Embassy in Casablanca. But, for that you would have to show your address in Morrocco. I assumed that you have to have proof of domicile in the US. I am not sure that using a relative's address, and not having a physical address is appropriate. Can someone clarify this? I am just looking out for the OPs safety. I didn't think using someones address in the States, and living abroad is legal for USCIS purposes.

Pushbrk is correct though, which forms to file differ based on the situation.

we are considering filing DCF but I don't want to waste the money we have already spent so we are waiting to see if we get reapproved...

as for the address...while it's true i'm using my mother's address we will be temporarily residing at my mother's address when we do get to the usa so i don't believe this to be fraudulent

You folks are confusing this woman. The answer depends on the circumstances. If she and her parents are part of the same household (Please confirm if this is the case.) then the petitioner files an I-864 and each parent would file an I-864a. If combined income is not sufficient, (household size is at least 4 including all sponsors plus any intending immigrants, at minimum)then $5 in parental LIQUID assets can be used to overcome $1 in income shortfall. This should be savings or other liquid accounts documented with account statements. There is no need to list the home because it is not liquid (by definition). If the home IS listed, they need to include an appraisal and mortgage (if any) statement.

I'm not sure but I don't think I'd be considered in their household since I'm living in Morocco with my husband...I'm just using my mother's address for a US address for USCIS...when I originally filed the I-864 I was living in an apt. so when I stayed in Morocco I just changed my US address to my mom's...

Will I have to be considered in their household since I'm using the address or just the parents and my husband?

Will I have to file a new I-864 since I'm the petitioner along with my mom filing an I-864 and stepfather I-864A?

You and your mother would both file an I 864, if she is the main co sponsor, since you have no income. Your stepfather would file an I 864a, as he is the cosponsor's household member. And Tracy, be sure they BOTH send certified copies of their birth certificates, Casablanca requires one for the I 864a as well.

Thanks Sarah...I wasn't sure how to work things now with our situation...

oh gosh...didn't realize that...no, i'm currently living in Morocco with my hubby but i'm using my mom's address for uscis purposes...i will ck into if just one will qualify...thanks so much

i was misunderstanding it as my still being the sponsor and my parents using the 864A as the joint ones...if just one doesn't then they both will do an 864 correct? lol, what a mess

I-864a is filed by the joint sponsor and their household member if combining income is needed but only if the joint sponsor is part of the same household as the petitioner. Otherwise, the joint sponsor files an I-864.

Do you and your parents share the same domicile? Is there not one parent who qualifies on their own?

oh gosh...didn't realize that...no, i'm currently living in Morocco with my hubby but i'm using my mom's address for uscis purposes...i will ck into if just one will qualify...thanks so much

thanks...although i did read thru the forms i wanted to double check this due to our new situation and wanted to make sure we did everything right....this process can make a person crazy...lol

ok everyone i'll be as brief as i can....i sponsored my hubby for the cr-1...our petition was returned and we have a very good chance of reapproval so i'm preparing for the next steps...i'm currently living in Morocco with my hubby so my mother and stepfather will sponsor now...here are my questions and hope someone can help with these...thanks in advance

1)am i still considered a sponsor since i filed the 1-864 even though the petition was returned and am currently living in Morocco with my hubby and not working? (also, my last yr of work I was just under the income level due to surgery so I'm not even sure they would have approved my sponsorship)

2) will I have to re-file a new I-864 along with I-864A for my co-sponsors or will they now be just the sponsors for my husband?

A Ban would only be in effect if they charged him with Misrepresentation. I believe they would give him a letter notifying him of a lifetime entry ban if it applies.

thanks for the reply...from the statements on our NOIR it does not seem to be anything to do with misrepresentation...they just say the evidence (or lack of) suggests that i submitted a marriage cert. for immigration purposes...it mostly seems based on what the co put in his report about my husband didn't know the answer to a couple questions and so he told the co "i don't know"..that and a document i need for a last name change when i was a child..it seems strange to me that uscis did not catch this before the initial approval and ask for this document and suddenly now it is an issue. In the NOIR they actually have that "public records suggest" i was married to someone with this last name...UNBELIEVABLE...i would like to see who i would have married at the age of 5-6...lol

can anyone with a similar experience offer any suggestions or answers to these questions please?

i have also posted in the mena forum which was a big help but still would like to know if anyone knows about the revoke question

'established process' = 'follow instructions on the blue cover letter' for the rebuttal.

My apologies, you not mention that you were offerred a chance to rebut.

Some people get a NOIR and it contains rebuttal instructions, some ppl don't get it.

Since you got it -

anything and everything that you submitted to Casa in 'that attempt' to get the casefile held in Casa -

you must submit , plus more stuff, for the rebuttal 'evidence pile'

So - there's a seperate 'pile o stuff' for a 'seperate evidence' path.

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On the I-130, filed via DCF to Casa, ya, sorry, assume yer starting from scratch, and include as comprehensive a package of 'evidence coverage' as you can - feel free to lift 'my list' that I generated for our petition (Guangzhou can be just as hard as Casa, alas) - see http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=218775&st=0&p=3324240&hl=Rusticentry3324240

I hope that you made copies of stuff, just remember - anything you submit with the I-130 will be a PHOTOCOPY, and anything for the DS-230 civil documents needs to be an original or a certified copy.

Good Luck (and really, congrats on getting an opportunity to rebut ).

thank you..i am so glad to have the opportunity to rebut their suppositions. I have prepared a numbered rebuttal statement and have seperate evidence folders corresponding to each numbered rebuttal answer to make it easy for them. Also I'm preparing a written statement from the beginning of our relationship to the present. Unfortunately, we are not rolling in money and don't own any property nor joint credit cards etc. so this part will be the hardest...it's funny to me that they would think just because someone owns stuff like this together is proof to them of a valid marriage because I'm sure there are many people who would do this just to make it look like a real marriage....

again thanks so much for the help and thanks for the luck...after everything we've been thru we're gonna need it...lol

1. yes - but do note there is some 'established process' to 'submit evidence' when a NOIR letter is in your hands.

2. yes .

Ohh...thank you thank you so much...I was not sure if we could start consular filing with this one in NOIR status...i assume i will have to re-submit all documents such as divorce/death cert. as well?...uscis still has all of our documents from this CR-1 as i never filed the form to get them returned...

uscis sent a blue cover letter for the rebuttal and I know i need to send that with the evidence but i am not sure if that is what you mean by established process

also, do you happen to know anything about this revoke question?...is it possible he could be banned or just the marker in his file?