JORDANTONI09

100% A lot of flag-waving, chest-thumping, and lightly racial accusations on what illegals do to neighborhoods, public schools and health care. No matter what people say here, this law wont get passed and sadly to all the wishful believers that want the rest of the U.S. to join in, it wont. Simply not enough boots, and not enough Illegals who will follow that law anyway.

I like this thread. I enjoy watching all of the chest-thumping and flag-waving. I'm still waiting for some of you guys to trot out your mom and her apple pie!
Forget for a minute that this law won't pass muster even with a conservative Supreme Court. Instead, keep in mind that this law won't slow down the illegals to any measurable degree, and that most local law enforcement doesn't want to have anything to do with it. They don't have the time nor the resources to care about the difference between I-10 and an I-94. And for some cops, reasonable suspicion = brown skin.
As for other delusions...there will never be enough boots on the ground to patrol the border. Americans would not pay what it would cost to secure the border. As for the visa overstays...good luck on that one too. There will never be enough boots on the ground to put a dent in their numbers either.
How about a mandatory e-verify system and some heavy fines and jail time for employers who hire the illegals? And for you deeper thinkers, how about NAFTA and the half million Mexican farmers it put out of business? Do you think they are going to let their families starve?
OK...back to flag-waving and chest-thumping!

Really? Is this what everybody is going to argue about? This stupid law thats objectifying one minority that's not the only race who has ever came here illegally? This is such a BS topic. Everybody has their say in this one because they think their race is better, right? Of course its not targeted at asian people so they would never stop you in a mall in Arizona, I dont think its right for cops to stop me out of nowhere and ask for I.D. to prove something. I'm an american, a first generation hispanic american, and it's very insulting for the to do so. How dare everybody say that this law enforcement is necessary! I would never say this about another race, I wouldnt go "Hey, theres a pinoy, search him for papers!" or "Get the hell out of my country!". They deserve to work, they arent causing trouble, my mom mightve came here illegally, but she grew up in the states, went to school, worked and was treated like an american because she never got in trouble or wanted anything bad with anybody, now she's a citizen, like my dad and I'm proud for the product I am. I dont care what anybody will say to me after this post, my point of view has been cleared and Im happy with that. Oh, and way to go Arizona:thumbs: Because of this law, there will be a bunch more green card marriages thats going to make it harder for everybody else, way to go.

Oh no, I can man up, but before you wanna say that it doesnt matter what race, then it comes clear that you have a problem with just one race, Soooooo sorry to be playing the "Race Card" here. Im not unglued at all, and I comprehend it just fine. You can say whatever you want as well, because just as you said that I won't win this topic, neither will you. We just have 2 different views, thats it. They probably are illegal but since you want to bring this up, make sure to bring me back some LUMPIAS, ADOBO and some chicken from JOLLIBEE, while youre gone.

Really? Is this what everybody is going to argue about? This stupid law thats objectifying one minority that's not the only race who has ever came here illegally? This is such a BS topic. Everybody has their say in this one because they think their race is better, right? Of course its not targeted at asian people so they would never stop you in a mall in Arizona, I dont think its right for cops to stop me out of nowhere and ask for I.D. to prove something. I'm an american, a first generation hispanic american, and it's very insulting for the to do so. How dare everybody say that this law enforcement is necessary! I would never say this about another race, I wouldnt go "Hey, theres a pinoy, search him for papers!" or "Get the hell out of my country!". They deserve to work, they arent causing trouble, my mom mightve came here illegally, but she grew up in the states, went to school, worked and was treated like an american because she never got in trouble or wanted anything bad with anybody, now she's a citizen, like my dad and I'm proud for the product I am. I dont care what anybody will say to me after this post, my point of view has been cleared and Im happy with that. Oh, and way to go Arizona:thumbs: Because of this law, there will be a bunch more green card marriages thats going to make it harder for everybody else, way to go.

Really? Is this what everybody is going to argue about? This stupid law thats objectifying one minority that's not the only race who has ever came here illegally? This is such a BS topic. Everybody has their say in this one because they think their race is better, right? Of course its not targeted at asian people so they would never stop you in a mall in Arizona, I dont think its right for cops to stop me out of nowhere and ask for I.D. to prove something. I'm an american, a first generation hispanic american, and it's very insulting for the to do so. How dare everybody say that this law enforcement is necessary! I would never say this about another race, I wouldnt go "Hey, theres a pinoy, search him for papers!" or "Get the hell out of my country!". They deserve to work, they arent causing trouble, my mom mightve came here illegally, but she grew up in the states, went to school, worked and was treated like an american because she never got in trouble or wanted anything bad with anybody, now she's a citizen, like my dad and I'm proud for the product I am. I dont care what anybody will say to me after this post, my point of view has been cleared and Im happy with that. Oh, and way to go Arizona:thumbs: Because of this law, there will be a bunch more green card marriages thats going to make it harder for everybody else, way to go.

Really? Is this what everybody is going to argue about? This stupid law thats objectifying one minority that's not the only race who has ever came here illegally? This is such a BS topic. Everybody has their say in this one because they think their race is better, right? Of course its not targeted at asian people so they would never stop you in a mall in Arizona, I dont think its right for cops to stop me out of nowhere and ask for I.D. to prove something. I'm an american, a first generation hispanic american, and it's very insulting for the to do so. How dare everybody say that this law enforcement is necessary! I would never say this about another race, I wouldnt go "Hey, theres a pinoy, search him for papers!" or "Get the hell out of my country!". They deserve to work, they arent causing trouble, my mom mightve came here illegally, but she grew up in the states, went to school, worked and was treated like an american because she never got in trouble or wanted anything bad with anybody, now she's a citizen, like my dad and I'm proud for the product I am. I dont care what anybody will say to me after this post, my point of view has been cleared and Im happy with that. Oh, and way to go Arizona:thumbs: Because of this law, there will be a bunch more green card marriages thats going to make it harder for everybody else, way to go.

Really? Is this what everybody is going to argue about? This stupid law thats objectifying one minority that's not the only race who has ever came here illegally? This is such a BS topic. Everybody has their say in this one because they think their race is better, right? Of course its not targeted at asian people so they would never stop you in a mall in Arizona, I dont think its right for cops to stop me out of nowhere and ask for I.D. to prove something. I'm an american, a first generation hispanic american, and it's very insulting for the to do so. How dare everybody say that this law enforcement is necessary! I would never say this about another race, I wouldnt go "Hey, theres a pinoy, search him for papers!" or "Get the hell out of my country!". They deserve to work, they arent causing trouble, my mom mightve came here illegally, but she grew up in the states, went to school, worked and was treated like an american because she never got in trouble or wanted anything bad with anybody, now she's a citizen, like my dad and I'm proud for the product I am. I dont care what anybody will say to me after this post, my point of view has been cleared and Im happy with that. Oh, and way to go Arizona:thumbs: Because of this law, there will be a bunch more green card marriages thats going to make it harder for everybody else, way to go.

I worked for a Korean national before my latest job as a Web Researcher and he didn't give me any benefits either but they're easy to scare. If she has been with the company for over a year, I think it's fair for her to ask for a raise. Since she isn't being given any benefits, I surmise that she at least gets the money intended for the SS, Phil Health, etc. If not then I empathize with her even more. What line of work is she in? I know all about employers evading taxes. It all boils down to greed. Rather sad but it's a reality that the employees have to deal with on a day to day basis. Pffft.
I wish you two all the best!
She seems like a strong woman. She'll surmount this hurdle.
Toni

Aww.. Thanks, DobermanGuy!
It won't hurt to get out there and earn an extra buck. I guess your girl just has to stretch the peso for now. She should demand for receipts just so she can take note of their disbursements. I believe that's fair since the money does come from your girl's pocket. She's a kindhearted girl and probably feels that it's her duty to provide all those needs for her family. You have to remind her that no matter how necessary money may be, she can always help them in kind. She can send a trusted friend of hers in Cebu a little money and allocate that for groceries so she can be appeased knowing where it went.
I get how your girl is because I never asked my fiance for money too. We apportioned the visa expenses so everything that I have to pay for while I'm in the Philippines will come from my pocket while the ticket and the green card will be his responsibility. Anything thereafter will be jointly shouldered. Team work.
Tell her to be stern about the amount she sends because she has to live a little. After everything she has done for them, she deserves to be worry free and at least have a taste of financial security in exchange for her hard work. Little sissy needs a wake up call!
Btw, her company should give her medical insurance. In most cases, dental care is included.
Toni

I'm sorry to hear about your dilemma but I admire your honey for sending her sister to school. Some families practice this to help ease the parents' expenses especially when they're headed towards retirement. My mom always shouldered our expenses and there are five of us so I'm grateful for that. I believe that you can pay the tuition in either in full, quarterly or monthly. My mom opted for quarterly payments in case one of her children decide to drop out of school. At that time, she was sending 3 girls to universities and the 2 younger ones to high school so it was easier that way. Now, I have two siblings currently studying. One taking up Interior Design and the other studying Culinary Arts.
Why not advise the family to minimize their expenses? I don't see the point of them asking for more money when your honey is still earning the same amount every time they ask her for it. If the little sister isn't willing to take part-time work at the moment, why not try a summer job at a call center? I had a friend who did that and she was able to pay for her first quarterly tuition the for the following year. I understand that there are tuition fee hikes but it's like they implement it every month. lol. Maybe it's about time that your honey should put her foot down. Why not give the little sister an ultimatum? I wanted more money without leeching on my mom so on a whim, I went to Marikina and saw the opportunity to sell Rattan slippers. I also contacted a friend of mine whose aunt supplied imported perfume to malls. I had a capital of Php500 for the slippers and made 5,000 a month on orders. My perfume business made double of that depending on the influx of orders. I used that money for "gimmicks", miscellaneous school expenses and of course, put the rest in my savings account.
She should give them a fixed amount to budget monthly. Money doesn't grow on trees and even if your honey does it out of the goodness of her heart, they should consider that it all comes from the sweat of her brow. Think of a sustainable sideline business that they can earn from monthly so they can be preoccupied with that.
Good luck and I hope things will pan out!
Toni