DaleandPat

Hi!

At the interview the Yahoo! Messenger archive is serves as one of the proofs for our relationship. My question is related to the quantity of it, how much should we show up with, because actually there are thousands of pages and it is too much to print them all

I am using Yahoo IMs also, I already used IMs in the original proof of relationship. I will do screen shots of the archive then I will print off 3 or 4 IMs per month, which would be 4 months. I will have the archive and some examples. Good luck.

Hello Vjers!

We're planning to send K1 visa. So as early as now, we are preparing and gathering every thing just to be ready.

Just want to ask if how to present chat logs? I have a different alias name on my YM id. is that will be a problem? should I print the whole conversation or what should I do?

Same question on our e-mail messages. How and what do I need to print out?

I don't really have any evidence for phone calls. Because my fiance (beneficiary) has a magic jack ( this is like a usb that He can plug in to his computer and can make a free call here in US). How can I present proof for that?

Thanks for your help!

As evidence of an ongoing relationship I used screen shots of the log of my Yahoo IMs with Pat. I also set Yahoo IM to archive the messages. Then I also make screen shots of some messages; two or three messages per month just for examples. I choose the screen shots verses the text version because the screen shots shows what the exact messages looked like. I was afraid the straight text messages may not have been as believable. I didn't get an RFE so it must have been fine. Now I am going to take another log and examples to send to Pat for her interview to show a continual ongoing relationship.

please help me..i am confuse of everything..

we got our noa2 last week of july so why question is...what do i do next after we got our noa2...do i receive another letter or my fiance another letter from embassy?

pls pls help me..thank you and god bless

You are so lucky, congrats. This may help: http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=129059 This was posted by Sheriff Uling. My petition was approved on July 16th so I am waiting to hear the petition has a case number and it has been forwarded to Manila. The US Embassy in Manila does not send out packet 4 anymore. You dowload the packet 4 from the embassy site. The link is in Sheriff Uling's post; the Philippines Guide. Now the petitioner can start rounding up or at least figuring what supporting documents will need to be submitted to the beneficiary with the I-134 form.

Right now it is just a wait until you get your case number. Once you get the case number You should be elgible for scheduling of the interview. Pat and I are right there with you, maybe just a couple weeks in front of you. Pat and I are glad to share information as we get it, please feel free to send a message for information or experiences. God bless.

Hello everyone!

At this point, I want to specifically ask those petitioners who sent the I-129F under California Service Center whose respective fiancées come from the Philippines. My fiancé and I are faithfully waiting for our NOA2. We’d like to prepare everything for the arrival of the NOA2. He sent the I-129F on May 29 this year and we received the NOA1 on the first of June.

Here are my questions:

Is it true that the documents necessary to meet the NOA2 vary from one couple to another? If that were the case, what documents are similar or commonly asked from all K1 visa filers in relation to the NOA2?

Will it also matter in which state in America one’s fiancé lives? For example, those petitioners coming from Nebraska get faster approval than those who live in Montana although both states are under the jurisdiction of CSC… Does it work that way? This query roots from my observation that there’s an active member here in VJ whose fiancé lives in Ohio. The guy submitted the I-129F on May 26, 2009, received the NOA2 in early July, and the fiancée now has her visa. They are only three days earlier than us. I admire them for their exceptional case. The petitioner is not in the military but their process has been really fast. The USCIS states in their website that they process the cases according to when they receive each. Then how come some couples in 2008 are left unapproved even if they aren’t subjected to RFE?

Is it any helpful that my fiancé lives in California? Does CA welcome new immigrants at this period?

My fiancé had typed “Californa” instead of “California” on the I-129F form that he sent. Would that affect the process? I hope not. That was the only error there. He sent me the whole first package scanned after mailing them to the USCIS. He must have been too excited to send the forms so he did not proofread every single letter.

Does the USCIS already check tax matters before releasing the NOA2 or tax-related stuff arise during the NOA2 compliance? I haven’t asked my fiancé if he already submitted there in April the necessary tax forms. He was working on those four months ago before his visit here.

And oh, to all members here who replied to my very first post yesterday, thank you very much. You are indeed helpful. I need more guidance and I’ll be grateful to your assistance.

ARIAD

I think the documents are the same no matter what country the fiance(e) is coming from. I think you should be just fine. I submitted the petition for Pat and I to California and it was put into the system May 1st. I got the NOA2 on July 16th. From Igor's list I found that many of the other early May petitioners are have also been processed. It was 76 days from my NOA1. Everything will be fine, and if not the USCIS will send an RFE. Everything will turn out just fine.

What you can do now is download the forms for packet 4 and start making out the I-134 and start collecting the supporting documents.

I think you mean packet 3

Where do I find the Packet info at?

Packet 3 is now called the Informational Packet. It is just some information about what forms and you need to send it to where they say to send it so you can qualify for an interview. The US Embassy in Manila has a site where Packet 4 is downloaded, so it may be different for your finace(e). This is the packet 4 that my fiancee is working from http://manila.usembassy.gov/wwwfk1en.pdf This is only available online. Here is the URL of a page at t he US State Department's site that tells a little about packet 3 and packet 4 http://travel.state.gov/visa/laws/telegram...grams_1540.html

Be sure to probe around at this VJ site. I know it sure seems confusing at times.

Ok I got this emailed to me today...now what. I havent actually got the letter in the mail. So what is the next step?

Congrats.

If you got an e-mail indicating that you petition has been accepted you should see your case being touched at the USCIS site, then yopu should be getting your NOA2 in the mail a a few days. I never got an e-mail, I just noticed one day my case was touched, which was a Friday, thne the following Monday I received the notice by snail mail.

Now just wait 2 to 4 weeks for the petition to get to the NVC and a case number will be assigned and forwarded to the embassy or consulate. What you can do now is download the forms for packet 4 and start making out the I-134 and start collecting the supporting documents.

Sry guys but I'm just confused on this part.. Do I need to copy all parts of my passport(petitioner) or I just need to send them the part on my passport that has a stamp on it?

I copied the pages that had information on them. It went through just fine.

I-601 from Jamaica!!!!!!!!

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Hi Everyone,

Can someone please help me out here, I would greatly appreciate it.

Here's my story:

I came here almost 9 and a half years ago in someone else's passport from Jamaica. The problem is I have absolutely no evidence to proove this and no way of getting any. I guess I will be filing as EWI. I've been married for a year now and I have two kids that are not my husband's. Lawyers advised us that I have to go back to Jamaica for my interview after everything's been filed. Can someone help me get started with this lon process, what information to get to prepare to file the I-130. Has anyone ever filed a case like this without using a lawyer? I know we'll have to prepare a waiver packet but what's the first step,thanks.

Let me get this straight. You came here to the USA on someone else's passport. The US Immigration may view that as fraud and if that is the case you are not here legally. Then a relative could use the I-130 to bring you here legally. If you go back to Jamaica or even try Customs and Immigration my notice something. If they do, I am not sure what will happen. It just maybe that you will not need to worry about the I-130 petition.

hello all...just a few questions for you about the forms in packet 3.

+as far as i know, my fiancee was given ds-156k.

it says it is to be used with for ds-156- which was NOT included in the packet.

does that sound right? where is ds-156?

+on ds-156k it asks for "evidence of engagement". what sort of evidence are they looking for? a signed statement? something else?

+it also asks for "evidence of support". do they want the affidavit of support? or something else?

+on the front of the checklist is the MTL number. the consulate has made it clear they they want the forms from packet 3 and the checklist immediately, but the doctor doing the medical exam also wants proof that they sent packet 3. will they take a photocopy?

thanks in advance, guys!

Maybe the US Consulate in Canada may be different, but the packet 4 which is to be downloaded from your consulate, but the US Embassy in Manila packet 4 gives some definitions. http://manila.usembassy.gov/wwwfk1en.pdf This document tells the evidence of engagement is showing an ongoing relationship. The requirements for the US Embassy in Canada may be different.

hello all...just a few questions for you about the forms in packet 3.

+as far as i know, my fiancee was given ds-156k.

it says it is to be used with for ds-156- which was NOT included in the packet.

does that sound right? where is ds-156?

+on ds-156k it asks for "evidence of engagement". what sort of evidence are they looking for? a signed statement? something else?

+it also asks for "evidence of support". do they want the affidavit of support? or something else?

+on the front of the checklist is the MTL number. the consulate has made it clear they they want the forms from packet 3 and the checklist immediately, but the doctor doing the medical exam also wants proof that they sent packet 3. will they take a photocopy?

thanks in advance, guys!

The evidence sounds like it can be more pictures if you visit since the petition was files, IMs, e-mails, phone calls, would be my guess according to the packet 4.

did not know anything about the visa process before my first visit, but now learn they want photos of us together ,i have none. i have about 5 of her and 3 of her family, i talked to someone at olvis travel &visa he tells me to say camara was lost or stolen . what should i do?? can i get by with the ones i have , or do i give up?????

Get an airplane ticket and go back to Manila. If it is only pictures between the two of you don't let the love of your life get away.

well i have been approved and am now a member of the noa2 club, We were approved on the 23rd of july! Thank God!!! now for the rest of the journey....good luck all !!!!

Congratulations, now for packet 3 or the Instructional Packet as it is now called.

I went to the RP 5 times in a year and a half (felt good to get that free flight from Philippines Airline... finally!). I went to the interview, but I didn't go into the interview with my fiancee. It is her interview so they often don't want the USC in there to interrupt the flow of it all. The COs are just normal employees trying to get through a day of work so to some of the COs, the USC is considered a pain in the back side. I think visiting your fiancee 3 times helps you, but I don't think attending the interview helps anyone especially when trip number 2 is for the interview (my opinion).

I have been wondering about the USC attending the interview. I believe you are right if the petitioner is there they might be in the way. Something that I wondered also is if the petitioner is there the interviewer may perceive this to be a possible coercion. A possible case for forcing the Filipina. This would be a chance for the Filipina to think over if she really wants to do this. Just a thought.

When the info changes - (date/what they did) - you have been touched.

It will actually tell you what they did?

They do not put anything about what they did. It was a week ago Friday July17th that I noticed the date changed on my status at the USCIS site. I did not receive an e-mail or anything. One Monday the 20th I received my NOA2 which was effective on the 16th. So apparently the touch on the 17th was when the petition was sent to the NVC. I saw no other touches at all.

Has anybody here had to wait over 140 days from NOA1 to NOA2? We are at 143 days right now and getting a little upset over this sh*t.

The clowns over at the Vermont Center seem to just randomly pull cases to process, which is unfair.

I'm just curious how many here had to wait over 143 days for their NOA2.

Thanks.

I am sorry you are having such a long wait time. Maybe they are upgrading Vermont. It looks like so far this year Vermont has had more petitions than California in some months. God bless and a speedy interview.

I've heard various reports about interviewers going for

the jugular when they hear the couple met online.

We don't rightly know how much weight to give that.

Our story is true, but doesn't really fit into

the scenarios they they are used to hearing.

In 2003 we were both members of an MSN "interest group" that

roughly fits under the heading of married people wanting to socialize.

Although neither of us was active in the group except for meeting

each other (I got her ID from the members list and chatted her up

and never contacted any other member except for her, end of story).

We both de-listed from that group very soon after meeting.

I'm not even sure exactly what the name of that group was

and I tried googling it recently but came up empty.

Neither of us ever paid money for meeting.

We have a great long-term relationship based on trust and lust

and always have been focused on our goal which is to bring her

to New York. We are very close to the point where we can submit

the I-129F (waiting for court action which is imminent) and we're

sure to have enough visual and written "documentation" to make

the process be completed successfully.

Do you think the interviewer will try to force us to prove

that we didn't pay money just because we did in fact meet

online, or are they willing to listen to reason?

Also, we are going to admit that we were both married to other

people when we met. I know that is quite common and shouldn't

be an issue, but my better half was a little apprehensive on that point.

Thanks in advance for any reply.

I think the interviewer looks for how genuine you seem to be. If it looks like meeting on the internet then meeting in person and applying for a visa; that sounds like a fling to me. If the couple have built a relationship over time then met in person and applied for a visa and does not stumble looking for answers at the interview I think the interview will go through fine. If the interviewer detects not really knowing the person or seems uneasy, they may throw out some probing questions to trip up the interviewee. This is only what I think. It looks like to two have known each other for quite awhile. I think you should be fine.

I have seen many posts here at this site that they were only asked a few questions and that is it. Then others were treated quite differently.

Hello,

My fiancee' is in the Philippines and we filed for her K-1 Visa and just received NOA1 07/14/09. She lives in Tacloban and the interview and medical exam will be in Manila. She will need to fly from Tacloban to Manila and back twice and stay in hotel's etc. to complete the K-1 process. I currently send her cash through moneygram.com but I would like to get her a prepaid credit card so she can go online and book flights, pay for hotel rooms, etc. I would like for her to have a prepaid credit card that originates from the Philippines so there are no issues where when she uses the card, it is a US based card and beleive there is a security issue because the charge is taking place outside the US. I would also like to "load" the card from the US for her use. I have investigated the Moneygram prepaid credit card and they do not allow what I am trying to accomplish. Does anyone have any ideas on how I can accomplish this.

Thanks!

A card would be safer than cash. I wonder if it would be best to send her money though Western Union, or I guess you used moneygram.com, but send her the money and have her get the card in her name. If the bank is an international bank it might be better. Just a thought.

One thing that I have come across because soon my fiancee will be getting her medical exam, but I believe the exam is paid for in advance once the NOA2 comes through and you know the number for the beneficiary.

Good luck,

Dale

Is it true that fiance's petitions from china take longer because of the US wants to slow down the amount of petitions from that country. I read this on some other site and have yet to find it again.

Is it true that fiance's petitions from china take longer because of the US wants to slow down the amount of petitions from that country. I read this on some other site and have yet to find it again.

Hi Tom,

I am not sure about if they are trying to slow down the number of petitions. It is possible there are more obstacles in the background checks with China than with other countries or it takes more effort with getting background checks in the more remote areas. From the stats 2 to 4 months is very common in getting the NOA2. It is so hard to say because there were others that have a similar timeline as mine and some got their NOA2 before me, some after me. Then I see there are still some waiting. Vermont does seem to be taking longer than California. It sure looks like the USCIS is processing at a fast rate now. My NOA2 came only after 76 days from the NOA1, I think according to the stats it is 121 days for the average. My petition did not get a touch until when it was approved. Maybe a background check was initiated when the NOA1 came through and then it was only a matter looking over the petition and bam it was done.

Hi everyone,

I think I read somewhere that Iranian nationals need to provide the addresses of ALL the places they have worked and ALL the places they have lived on their G-325A. (Instead of just the past five years.) Am I crazy, or is that actually the rule?

Thank you!

I do not think there is any rule, because that would be discrimination, so do not pay any attention to hear say. If there are security reasons or background check problems the USCIS might request more information on employment and where someone has lived. I would include only information on the G-325A that is requested; maybe use the examples as a guide found at this site. If you get an RFE for more information, just supply what they ask for.

Are you in the process of filling in the forms for the K1 fiance(e) visa? Good luck on your visa journey.

*Venting*

Okay, so as much as i try being patient, seeing march and April approved cases did not help. so i called the USCIS. what did they have to tell me?

she literally reiterated a shpeel, saying person handling our case is is either too busy or too lazy and told me to call in 2 months. I really don't want to believe in that i have along wait ahead of me bs because clearly people who filed after us are being approved already.

I am so ANGRY! We are really on a strict time line here, and no touches, no RFE's, NOTHING what so ever. the whole process is suppose to be taking 6 months.

I am sorry to hear you are having a long wait. I have noticed there are many being processed and approved right now. It seemed like April and May were dry months where nothing was being approved. It is about 4 moths from your NOA1, so looking at the stats you should see a touch and bam there will be the NOA2 very soon. I wish I had a magic wand and could grant you your wish.

The best on your visa journey,

Dale

Hello everyone,

First of all I want to wish all the March, April, and May filers congrats on their approval. I am just happy that they are approving faster than before. I don't know about everybody else, but I noticed a common trend in approvals. It seems like they usually get through the mid month, and than move on to the next month. For instance, if your on the last dates of the month for some reason you are stuck there for some time. I think USCIS follows the FIFO method . It sucks to have filed on the last days of the month, means you may be waiting for some time. This is just my take on this, as I noticed a pattern. I know VJ is not completely accurate, but it gives us an idea at least.

Maybe you have something. I sent my K1petition in on April 17, but the NOA1 was May1. Then 76 days later I have my NOA2. I noticed others close to my NOA1 are also being processed and the NOA2s are really showing up. I thought it odd how the NOA1s in May are being processed and what looks like many of the NOA1s in April are just sitting there. Can it be also that they are picking the low hanging fruit first; the simpler or easier petitions first?

I would think you would be coming up on your approval very soon. Good luck and God bless.

I received my K1 NOA2 today 7-20-2009. On Friday 7-17-2009 I noticed the K1 petition was touched and today I received the I-797 Notice of Action by snail mail. The USCIS must have really accelerated the background checks and so forth. This is more than a month sooner than I expected.

There is a light at the end of the tunnel. I want to offer encouragement to everyone still waiting. Hang in there.

I'm new to this forum, but I couldn't find this question posted yet. Sorry if it's been asked before.

My girlfriend and I want to apply for a visa (possibly a K1) for her to come to America in July 2010. We currently have no plans to get married....maybe, maybe not. But it's certain that she will join me for 1 month in the US and we'll return to Vietnam (where we both currently live) afterward.

Should we apply for the K1 since the processing takes so long and we may decide to get married during that processing time?

Are there any repercussions if we apply for the K1 and return from the US after a short time? I'm afraid that the travel visa will be more difficult than the K1 since Vietnam is very strict with handing them out.....but it may be equally difficult to get any visa for a Vietnamese national.

Are any other visas better for this than the K1?

Thanks.

-Luke and Nha

The K1 visa is for couples who intend to marry. It is a one entry visa for your fiancee to come to the USA and marry within 90 days. She can't leave again in one month, and return to Vietnam to live. She has to remain in the US and adjust status.

I understand that travel visas are hard to come by, but I don't think applying for a fiancee visa when you have no clear intent to marry is a way around that.

This is absolutely incorrect. The United States does not compel foreign nationals to immigrate, nor does it jail people to prevent them from leaving, nor does it force people to accept green cards they don't want. If you want to have your fiancee come to the United States, get married with your family here, and then leave to go back to Vietnam, the federal government is definately not going to force you to "remain in the US and adjust status." The US does sometimes force people to leave, but it doesn't force people to stay.

Of course they don't force people to do anything of the sort. But if he wants a K1 visa those are the terms.

The terms of the K-1 visa are that you get married within 90 days of your entrance. That's it. If you want to immigrate, it's a different process. If not you go home. There's no law or regulation that demands you get a green card or citizenship.

The OP asked if this was the visa for him. The answer would be no. The terms of a K1 are usually you have an intent to marry and remain. He doesn't.

I'm sorry, but I just don't think that this is correct. You do have to have intent to marry, but I do not think that you have to show an intent on staying in the US for any set amount of time.

He wants a visa that will allow her to visit the USA for a month next June. How do you thing a K1 visa applies in his situation?

Poorly, but that's not what I was commenting on. You said that with a K-1 visa the fiancee "has to remain in the US and adjust status." That is 100% factually incorrect. If someone for whatever reason (and I can think of many reasons) wants to get married in the United States but leave the very next day for some other country and never bother adjusting status, that's fine.

If the American is not residing in the USA, I wish he would apply for a different visa. With the K1 visa there is more to it than just coming to the US and marrying. If the K1 is used for other purposes it is just clogging the system. We are all waiting what we believe to be extremely long times to get our fiance(e)'s here in the USA, that is those of us that live here and have met the love of our lives and want to continue to reside here in the USA.

...but seriously now. Is that really going to make more problems for us? The fact that he is an Engineer and has worked for the military (which, by the way he had a top security clearance, for that company). And about the submariner part he's never even told me what they did in the navy. I asked but he couldn't tell me. I honestly never thought about it, and never thought they'd mind. As I said before, I thought that it was a good thing he was so professional.

I really hope it doesn't slow things down. I'm sad. I'm leaving next Friday, and we were hoping he'd be coming a week or two after me. Hopefully it's just standard procedure, like everyone said.

This is a thought, I do not think that your husband's work history effect anything. What I think is if your husband has RF engineering experience the US may be interested in this. The USCIS is processing work visas for people with high tech and advanced degrees ot experience. The US is in need of electronics engineers. The company I work for has in the past 3 years has had two buildings at my location and other new buildings in other states. They do telecommunications; RF, UHF, and VHF along with avionics. The hunt is on to get engineers. I can tell you the experienced engineers are in high demand. This is just what I think may be happening. I know the Israeli military has some very advanced systems. I think the USCIS may see him for his education and electronics experience for companies like the one I work for.

Dale

My fiancee arrived in the US three weeks ago. I was so excited, happy -- whatever, but now she wanted to go back home because she's homesick. She still wants to be engaged to me and promised me we're not giving up on each other. She's just not ready to get married right now. My question is, when she goes back to her country (Philippines) within the ninety days, will it be easier for us to go through another visa? I would appreciate any help. Thank you in advance.

Then if you are on the K1 90 days and if you are sure you want her and she wants to marry you, marry her soon. Then let her go back home for awhile. That has to be a big adjustment from the Philippines to the USA. Remember always show love, which is more than feelings, it is also action. She may miss the closeness of family members to. If her family is like my fiancee's they all live on the same piece of land, but in separate houses. Just evaluate how you really feel about each other before you either get married or she returns. She may only need a quick visit back home and she may realize how she feels and where she belongs.

well after two years of dealing with them i have learned every incorrect response that they give so i should be able to be hired with experience pay, maybe even floor supervisor!

You should be running the joint!

Oh maybe I should not have posted that!! people will start to think the USCIS is all screwed up!! hahha

I'm surprised all the USCIS apologists aren't defending them.

If it looks like a place for US Treasury money and disappear into Obama will fund that too, plus more jobs in the USCIS.