JimandChristy

7 minutes ago, Randyandyuni said:

Define do the right thing? For those countries? For the US?

For both.America still has a vested interest in forming diplomatic relationships around the world with other countries because of economic and National Security reasons. It is why we have troops for example in South Korea. Trump wanted to pull them out and Matthis had to explain to him why that was such a bad idea. Bullying and isolating ourselves from the rest of the world is folly.

6 minutes ago, Satisfied said:

So you prefer someone who allows innocent Americans to be murdered over someone who had sex with a porn star?

Noted.

BENGHAZI!!!  18 months the Republicans in Congress investigated that and they found nothing. So if Hillary did murder someone why didn't the Republicans in Congress find her guilty and charge her?   ZERO INDICTMENTS.

That show trial has nothing on the Mueller Investigation.

13 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

Those days ended the day Obama moved out of the White House.

Just now, Randyandyuni said:

In your opinion, you offer no quantitative proof

Just look at their character and behavior. I did agree with some of Trump's policies but I could never vote for him because of his behavior. I thought once he became President the Presidency would change him like all before him, no, he changed the Presidency for worse.

13 minutes ago, Randyandyuni said:

Kowtowing to rogue states, dealing with middle East despots, trying to buy respect, subverting national law to Garner favor with potential voters, did you live with blinders for a decade?

No see for yourself....

Must be great earning more respect from Russia.......with our Allies its a catastrophe. 

5 minutes ago, Satisfied said:

You just named about 9 different presidents that I can think of.  Not to mention other leaders such as Hillary.  Kennedy.  Martin Luther King Jr.  Buchanan.  Martin Winterkorn (talk about a liar!)  Rick Snyder (possibly responsible for multiple deaths and brain illnesses)  Martin Shkreli.  Not to mention all the sex scandals we’ve seen in the past 5 years.

No, one does not have to look far to find liars and crooks.  The fact that you hate Trump so much that it clouds your vision and lets you see Hillary as a better choice says things about you...

Hillary was a better choice, she was the lesser of two evils but she was bad but not as bad as Trump. It's night and day.

9 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

In your opinion.  I guess you would prefer a soft speaker who apologizes for the US all over the world, and corrupts the executive departments for political purposes.  I would rather have a president that actually follows the Constitution.

Have you seen how America is seen around the World since Trump became President? In other democracies we've plummeted, nobody respects America anymore except Russia. Funny that! You think America should earn respect by being a bully and strong arming every other nation around the world, those days are long gone. You have to earn respect now, by being diplomatic. The economy is global, the America in the past could be the bully because they had far more control over it. Not anymore.

I want this person to come out and then Woodward to release all of his tapes hearing high ranking Trump officials calling him an idiot. His position would be untenable. Yes Pence would be in charge and I disagree with his policies but he wouldn't bring shame to this country and the Presidency.

4 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Yes, it is amazing that those that support Trump’s policies don’t call him out for being a two-faced insider.  Personally, I could not care less what he says as long as the economy keeps humming along considering we went for eight years mired in obscurity.

By saying you don't care you are condoning his behavior. What he is doing is wrong and he is not fit to be President.

1 minute ago, Bill & Katya said:

Those appealing for impeachment believe in the tooth fairy and Easter Bunny and think like Reich that the 2016 election will be voided and Hillary will be put in her rightful place in the WH.

Funny thing is the way Mussolini and his supporters go on about Clinton all the time you swear she was the President not him.

10 minutes ago, Keith & Arileidi said:

I can't wait to hear what information Manafort is exchanging for leniency.

Get the popcorn ready!

Hey Mussolini loves a good show!

The fact his supporters also do not call him out on his despicable and disgusting behavior tells me they condone his behavior and I'm thankful they don't represent a majority of this country.

18 minutes ago, Randyandyuni said:

If what you say is true and he becomes a major stain on American history, so be it.

 

I think your obsession and animosity with him borders on the insane but would never wish you Ill in any way shape or form.

 

We survived the arch villains Bill and Hillary, Obama and his live and let live excesses, Carter's myopic mishandling of leadership, but they were all given the benefit of the doubt. 

 

Follow who you will, spout hate, name call to your heart's delight, you are not worth having a discussion with, you are driven by hate, I pity you

Mussolini isn't even on the same level as the people you named above, he is below, way below. He's disgraced the Presidency. America has become a laughing stock of other democracies around the world. Those countries had far more respect for this country when Obama, Bush and Clinton were in power. 

I pity Trump supporters because they clearly can't see that the President is destroying our institutions and values while embracing the values and policies of authoritarian leaders like Putin and Durente.

6 minutes ago, Ban Hammer said:

Intelligence experts say emails on Hillary's servers could have helped hackers – and anyone who read them when the State Department released them – identify covert CIA operatives

 

The names of CIA personnel could have been compromised not only by hackers who may have penetrated Hillary Clinton's private computer server or the State Department system, but also by the release itself of tens of thousands of her emails, security experts say. 

At least 47 of the emails Clinton turned over to the State Department contain the notation 'B3 CIA PERS/ORG,' which indicates the material referred to CIA personnel or matters related to the agency. 

And because both Clinton's server and the State Department systems were vulnerable to hacking, the perpetrators could have those original emails, and now the publicly released, redacted versions showing exactly which sections refer to CIA personnel.

more at https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3631694/Experts-Clinton-emails-compromised-CIA-names.html

 

you do know obama isn't president anymore.

not a judge of character I see. Oh Clinton's emails, same old tired excuse. Just in case you didn't know quite a few senior officials in Mussolini's White House have been using their personal email for public buisness. Where's the outrage?

19 hours ago, Boiler said:

Very hot today, I blamed Trump, I also had a flat tire, blamed him for that as well.

Ohhh so for eight years previously I remember all the moaning the right did a series of gifs were born..

https://media.giphy.com/media/WYz4hZxd6YxAA/giphy.gif

1 hour ago, Keith & Arileidi said:

I swear... Who needs TV when you have real life. 

Waiting for tweet in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1......

While we are waiting.. :lol:

Donald J. Trump
✔
@realDonaldTrump
 I feel very badly for Paul Manafort and his wonderful family. “Justice” took a 12 year old tax case, among other things, applied tremendous pressure on him and, unlike Michael Cohen, he refused to “break” - make up stories in order to get a “deal.” Such respect for a brave man!
9:21 AM - Aug 22, 2018

36 minutes ago, Randyandyuni said:

I never realized you were such a Mike Pence fan!

 

Your obvious joy at his supporters possible suffering tells me a lot about you.

 

Ride this rollercoaster while you can.

 

 

I take joy because how can anyone support a man like that especially when that anyone is the leader of the free world. He's a liar, crook and immoral and will be a major embarrassment and stain on American History.

5 hours ago, Boiler said:

Please sympathy for those suffering.

 

His supporters will be suffering soon, once he is impeached and criminally prosecuted, its going to be delicious. Manafort is squealing.

You watch the Mobster come out and degrade Manafort after praising him extensively. 

1 minute ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

We missed you guys... Where have you been, what have y'all been up to lately?

Watching this trainwreck of a Presidency. Approval numbers going down, Manafort looks like he's going to squeal, midterms are coming up and if the Dems win the house Mussolini is toast! Mussolini even said at his Propaganda rally in Montana it'll be his supporters fault if he is impeached.

3 hours ago, Satisfied said:

The only criticism towards you that I have read on here is due to your inability to post cogent arguments.  By copying Trump’s name-calling that you claim is so reprehensible, and doing it yourself, you are basically tossing any credibility you have in the garbage.  The majority of your posts are nothing more than name-calling hiand talking about approval ratings.  You refuse to answer straight-forward questions.  In short, you don’t DISCUSS anything, just keep repeating the names over and over.  I’m sure if you put even a little effort into it, you could post some good stuff to provoke discussion.  I believe you said you were a teacher, right? Use some of those skills to present a logical debate.

Like your President's credibility has been garbage since day 1? You see I find it hilarious how Trump supporters since day 1 have given him a free pass on his behavior, how has denigrated the office of the Presidency,  but if anyone dares to talk out against him using similar behaviors they can't stand it, hypocrisy at it's finest.

6 minutes ago, Randyandyuni said:

The personal growth is great, well done, I reread it several times, not a single reference to mango Mussolini, no quibbling about approval ratings that disproved your premise and no cartoons.

 

I disagree with you but you put forth effort in your response

Funny how you'll criticize me but when our President does it it's perfectly ok and you give him a pass because the economy is good.

You wait till the Dems take back the House, then you'll see the true Mobster come to light in the White House. Dodgy taxes, dodgy real estate deals etc etc.

20 hours ago, Satisfied said:

Let's talk facts for just a moment, not histrionics, shall we?

 

What was your income tax bracket last year? What is it for 2018?  How much did your standard deduction change? Can you give straight answers to these questions?

I ain't going to reveal my personal finances on here but what I do know the tax cuts gave 80% of the benefit to the wealthy and peanuts for the rest. He made their tax cuts permanent but ours was to expire. Same tired old trickle down nonsense.

5 hours ago, Póg mo said:

Source? Which year are we taking about? Obama inherited a depressed US economy, with a huge whole in Federal balance sheets, not to mention an economy rapidly hemorrhaging jobs. 

 

According to this Ronald Ragain increased the federal national debt by 186%, George W Bush increased it by 101%, while Obama only managed a 86% increase, which considering the state of the economy when took office, an 86% increase is remarkably low.  

I wonder how much Trump will increase it by? https://www.thebalance.com/us-debt-by-president-by-dollar-and-percent-3306296

Sanity at last on the forums!

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
3000 people did not die in the two hurricanes that hit Puerto Rico. When I left the Island, AFTER the storm had hit, they had anywhere from 6 to 18 deaths. As time went by it did not go up by much. Then, a long time later, they started to report really large numbers, like 3000...

.....This was done by the Democrats in order to make me look as bad as possible when I was successfully raising Billions of Dollars to help rebuild Puerto Rico. If a person died for any reason, like old age, just add them onto the list. Bad politics. I love Puerto Rico!

That tweet there alone is why he is worst President ever. That's despicable.

Well he is a Category 6 liar.....