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Is there any way to transfer the google spreadsheet data into excel? I would like to know what is the VSC average approval waiting days for NOA1 received in 2008 minus those that are clearly expedites. Hit or miss is good, just to give me a feeling of how we are standing with VSC...

Thx.

Congrats. Any expedite or anything?

Approved today!

John,

I am afraid you are wide off the mark with your calculations... I think MOST people who filed YTD at VSC still did not get a NOA2...

Not sure how you can come up with those average times..

I know you are probably busy, but i wonder if you chose lets say 11/01/07 as your cutoff date. I would be curious to see the results of that. My guess is you would see a pretty large gap in approval times between the service centers.

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The data already shows a large gap between service centers and visa type. K3's are taking twice as long at Vermont than they are at California. K1's are taking twice as long at California than they are at Vermont. So looking at everyone's data K1, K3, Vermont, California; and trying to use an average doesn't work (the distribution for either K1 or K3 would be bimodal).

Going back to Nov. 2007 would add lots of line items w/o approvals (many because they have not been updated). So yeah, processing time would go up. Assuming a proportional number of VJer's are slackers (whether they filed K1, K3, Vermont, or California) when it comes to updating their timeline, the relative gaps would be similar to the data I already posted. Go look at the "advanced view" for any visa category for "immigration timelines". Set the number of rows to display to 50 or 100. Now scroll through pages until you get to 2005 or 2006. You'll notice that in some instances more than 50% of the pages line items have not received an NOA2 yet. Doubtful. While a few might still be in process due to AR, the vast majority of the timelines have been abandoned by the owner.

I'll try to take a look tomorrow at K-3's from Vermont, since that is probably the data you are most interested in. Just briefly purusing it; it looks like they virtually stopped approving I-129F's for K3's for a few months, but have started up again in June.

sference - Looked at K-3 trends for Vermont. Here is the summary (I did remove RFE's, obvious inactive timelines, etc; I also updated a few of the timelines in my spreadsheet when I could review a member's posts and determine when/if they had passed certain hurdles).

K_3_vermont_summary.htm

As all the K-3 filers at Vermont already know, it sucks to have been in this group as of August 2007 (actually when I was going through California in late 2006, most California filers were "envious" of Vermont filers!). For someone who filed in 2006, the USCIS portion was under 90 days from I-130 sent to NVC receipt. Many had visa in hand within 5 to 6 months of filing. Those that filed in August 2007 thru December 2007 - not so good - about 11 to 13 months estimated for completing the process. But it appears they have improved on the NOA1 issuance since February 2008; and on the 129F approval time the past few months (although I would not put alot of stock in the 80 number for Mar-May as it is only a few data points - I would still be thinking 100 to 120 days from your NOA1 to NOA2). Only time will tell, but someone filing today might realistically expect about 4 to 6 months at Vermont. Add two to three more for the consulate and they might be able to obtain a visa in 6 to 9 months - not great, but a whole lot better than last fall.

John

Before it was H1B, now it is N-400... what the heck, WHEN is it going to be spouse visas???

CSC keeps approving March and April filers... We are still stuck at Dec. with some applicants from Nov. still not processed...

K-3 or CR-1, I've seen just a trickle of approvals in the last 2 months.. I hope that the next two will not be worse and they can catch up with CSC and approve all at least to March.

I visited Congressman Saxons office today and talked to their immigration department. They told me they just had a USCIS meeting few weeks ago, and questions popped up why I-130's werent being processed. USCIS told them that they are only processing "SELECT" I-130's for the time being until they clear I-400 backlog which they said was their #1 priority.

BTW this is directed at VERMONT SERVICE CENTER only,

I believe the "select I-130's" are the easiest ones they can find, all of our DEC/NOV/JAN get ready for long wait.

That it is not doesn't mean that it shouldn't.. The Law is human, and it can always be improved. Politics drives this process (when it is not too busy worrying about dividing the spoils..)

Sure, I understand your frustration.

The point I was addressing hasn't anything to do with why one visa type is faster than another or why one service center is faster.

I was only addressing the notion that a couple who is married is somehow more entitled to a speedy process.

We all wish!!

Any Feb-March VSC filer got any touches this week ??

add me to the list please

I-130 sent Feb 26

NOA 1 MARCH 5

status PENDING!!!!

hi SraCastillo-appears to me that for VSC, NOA1 dated feb 3 are being processed. hopefully ull get the most awaited email/letter by next month. good luck and keep us posted!!

hopefully VSC gets their acts together and starts feeling ashamed of themselves when they see CSC timelines.

I agree with Roxcie: I think it is much easier to get married in Vegas than in many other countries... that said...

To me, bona-fide marriage and intent to marry are about equally complicated to assess. There is simply no reason why one petition should be faster than the other in my opinion. In fact, whether it is faster or slower, it is also a matter of the RESOURCES (personnel and time) allocated to those processes, and personally I think that there is not only simplicity,\ or pass-through rates, that should be considered when allocating those resources.

I know many people might disagree, but in a country that protects and respect families, already-formed families should be given a priority over still-to-be-formed families. I do not see why getting married abroad should put you at a disadvantage over getting married in the US: is this some sort of marry-in-the-US lobby running the USCIS ?? ;-)

I just applied for a K-1, but I am curious as to why K-3 applications appear to take so much longer (not to say K-1 process isn't long enough!) ...?

Presumably one of the great hurdles to get over for a K-1 is the sincerity of relationship, intent to marry, etc. etc. With a K-3, that's pretty much taken care of ... so why the extra hassle from USCIS?

I disagree with your second sentence. Sincerity and intent is not a given just because someone marries. It might appear that way to those going through the process. But, let's be honest.....marrying someone in a foreign country is pretty easy.

Otherwise, I agree with what was posted.....there just seem to be some extra steps depending on what you file.

I disagree with this statement, to marry someone and know that you will be leaving them to go back home is the hardest thing any husband or wife has to do. Now anyone can get married in any county including the USA without much hassle, but to get married and know you are not going to be together for a period of time, does take a strong person to get thru it.

Be Bless

Roxcie

Excellent data, thank you!

A couple of considerations:

-what did VSC do all month in Nov? Buy Xmas presents? There was almost no activity around that time, according to your charts..

-It seems that CSC is approx. 3-4 months ahead of VSC, judging from NOA1.

-It seems tothe most affected are Oct. & Nov. filers, and therefore I assume that they are the ones being adjudicated at the moment?

-Last but not least, although Pushbrk will call me a bigot, I notice that 20 to 25% of the applicants come from a few selected countries. I suggest that USCIS should open DCF to allow applicants from at least these few selected countries to file from home. Perhaps putting them on a separate waiting list/track (nowadays everything is possible with IT, including the remote screening and data exchange with the FBI) would speed up the process for everyone and "adjudicating closer to the people" would increase efficiency and through-put in the process, saving resources (although a diplomatic expat costs much more than a local USCIS agent probably..).

Soon hopefully... I'll start getting excited once I hear of a couple of touches from late Feb and early March filers at VSC and see approvals coming.

So far, I feel we are still stuck around Dec. and Jan. with very few exceptions if not Expedites..

Hope we are getting more NOA2's for March now

Gimme a break! It is already something if they look at files during regular work hours! ;-)

Hi guys,

I am new here, so please don't laugh at me if you think my question is silly.

I mailed I-129F petition on 06/02/08, VSC received it on 06/06/08. I got my NOA1 in the mail on 06/12/08 and created an account at USCIS website to follow my case progress on-line.

Up until yesterday I had the date of 06/11/08 in the "Last entered" column. Yesterday, there was a change of date to 6/21/08. As far as I understand this is what is being called "touch". So we were "touched". And that's good!

But 6/21/08 - was Saturday. Does VSC work on Saturdays?

Yep, and sometimes Sundays too! We got our NOA2 on a Sunday but weren't notified until Monday morning. They have adjucators that will take files home and work them there.

I do not think that anyone wise would do that. Why don't you give the name of your Congressman and ask to send the data to him/her directly?

Hello all. I am a member of DTTUSA and I am writing here to request help. I have my congressman willing to assist me in addressing the out of order processing that is happening at USCIS. They say that they process cases of similar type in the order in which received, but that is simply not the case.

If you have filed an I-130 petition that was processed at VSC and was NORMAL by all accounts...no expediting, etc...no errors..etc...and have ALREADY received your NOA2, would you be willing to email me your EAC# and timeline so I can share it with my congressman? I promise you 100% confidentiality.

my email is US_Carolena@hotmail.com

Carolena

Silent can you confirm if you are CSC or VSC?

Your signature says Chicago..

Got that sweet sweet mail from CRIS exactly 33 minutes ago, hell I was in a meeting when I got the mail, but as soon as I got back to my table, I was so so *#*@# scared to open the mail, I let my co-worker read it aloud for me

I know its kind of fast and I am scared as #### for the NVC process, my husband still hasn't got his tax transcripts and I still have to get other copies of my birth certificate.......gosh I am a nervous wreck right now.

This visa process has been fast for us compared to others, but we have waited for around 4 long years to come this far, just hope and pray the next phase would be smooth too.

Thank you all VJ members and I would also like to thank our lawyer too, do realise most of you all have complains with your lawyer, but we had a good thing going on, me and my husband didn't have a registered marriage certificate but things still worked out.

Best of luck to all of you

And now I can do my happy dancing and call up my dad to give him the good news :dance:

Of if a points system was applied to their education, ability to speak english, etc. and such points were tied to their admission?

I'd totally approve of it! Isn't that what smart civilized countries like Canada do in a sense??

are you working now? I guess that if your income is enough and can be proved by your employer's letter and pay stubs (plus bank documents), you should be fine..

what should i do guyz please help me thanksss

You mean also those filed for years older than last year?

How long for a late return to show up on the transcript, once filed?

do i still need a copy of my trascript?

It is difficult to get a transcript for a tax return that was never filed.

Returns that were filed on or about April 15th are expected to be available around June 30. So it appears to be 2.5 mos. +/-

How long for a late return to show up on the transcript, once filed?

do i still need a copy of my trascript?

It is difficult to get a transcript for a tax return that was never filed.

Congrats.

Did you expedite or call in or do anything at all? Very lucky to have filed end of March at VSC and be approved!

i received my NOA2 today ( hard copy ). my application was approved on june 12 2008

A bigot -in my dictionary- is someone who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own. Looking up previous posts from you, that term seems more applicable to you than to yours truly..

I guess "blockhead" would refer to someone who doesn't get -despite of being repeatedly explained- that judging how two people met and how long they've been married has nothing to do with bigotry but with plain and simple risk-control practices? Again, this is a personal opinion, and you are free to dissent, this is not China.

I see where an oversimplication of the argument would lend itself to being interpreted as "intolerance" (not bigotry), but I expected an intelligent, possibly educated person like you would make that jump and see beyond perceptions...

I also feel that the discussion is degenerating to the point where further arguments do not clarify the points being made, and therefore I shall not post on the subject anymore, at least not in reply to your posts on this specific subject. Like you mentioned in the past with reference to other discussions, if you have some good points to make on the arguments presented and possibly based on facts or at least articulated personal opinions, I'll truly be glad to keep discussing with you.

Your statements indicate you are judging how they met and whether and how long they've been married before beginning the process as part of the criteria for priority processing. That's the bigotry.

I want people that pose a LESSER risk of visa fraud to get through faster. That already happens, like it or not, call it bigot or not.

Right or wrong, YOUR government, NOT mine... ;-)

I'd just like that formalized more and its own logics brought to their obvious conclusions. And, yes, I think that it is good and normal that -for example- there are VWP countries, that some countries are easier to get a visa etc: there is a reason for that. I guess this is not a popular idea, but we should not be ashamed to have unpopular ideas if we think they are right and make sense.

Yes, I absolutely think that different histories of courtship/marriage should be treated differently at an INQUIRY/CHECK level, because that in my opinion would be the only way to make the process more efficient and effective.

I would say it's definitely taken into consideration at the consulate level, depending on which consulate you're going through.

charisma1 isn't even to the consulate stage yet. Unless I misunderstand his/her writings, I believe they are referring to the petition stage. Perhaps they feel the already married shouldn't have to offer the same proofs as the engaged?

IMBRA asks the petitioner about meeting thru 'brokerage' services. But that question seems to be directed at K1 petitioners and not at K3 or CR1. I'm not exactly sure what hoops charisma would have the 'engaged' jump through to validate their relationship.

The engaged or any who met on the internet or at an immigration party or any other of the list of "other than normal" international couples. Clearly, he/she wants one's that fit his/her definition of "normal international couple" to receive higher priortity all the way through the process. This is the bigotry.

I'm a US Citizen born and bred and believe fully in your right to free speech as well as my own. Do you think you have the right to speak as you will without dissenting opinion? Deal with it.

I do not have to deal with it, because I do NOT have a problem with anything you said, including your calling me a bigot or your dissenting opinion, if done without your self-rightous attitude. It is not me who said that your opinions are not welcome in this forum, right? So you can spare your Isaiah Berlin's class on liberty and free speech.

I couldn't care less if you are from China or from the US; I'll never call someone names just because I do not agree with his/her opinion. Free to slam the opinion with arguments and facts; if you can only call people names, I do not think you do your intelligence any justice. Again, feel free to disagree.

Different histories of courtship and marriage are considered in the visa process when evaluating bona fides but they don't put one group ahead of the others in line. Some may be subjected to further security checks or asked for additional evidence but they progress to those points with the same priority.

This is the point I was making; plus something else.

Like it does not take the same time to get into the US if you are a VWP citizen or a citizen that requires a tourist visa, PERSONALLY (I feel the need to stress this one last time with you so that you do not have to waste further space to say that you'd do otherwise: I get it and appreciate it) I'd apply double or triple standards to the USCIS process, based on the country of origin and as I said, based on the history of the couple in the light of fraud prevention and process optimization. I bet that over the medium term this would result in a FASTER process for all.

It is basically the same reason why they process K-1 visa first, probably. Being easier, they can get out of the way faster, and instead of processing all visa one after the other, the visa centers, prioritize, so that they can optimize internal flows and processes. I do not like that K-1 get approved faster, but that's because I think that an already formed family should have a higher priority, like a husband or wife or parents have a higher priority that a sibling or an uncle/aunt in the petiton process.. But if it serves to have EVERYONE approved faster, then so be it, although I do not like it.

Do you agree or do not agree that if you have never met your wife before and you are filing a petition, it is not the same thing as if you have been married together for many years, in terms of risk potential? One of the forms (forgot which one) asks about marriage brokers; there are some regulations about those type of marriages. How different is that from what I am saying? I am just saying that I would add a few more layers of sophistication to the analysis to include POTENTIAL danger signals without necessarily having to put the general category in the same bunch...

I have nothing against you meeting your wife wherever you like. At the end of the day, this seems to be the trend, nowadays.. But if you met her yesterday online, got married today, and filed a petition tomorrow, and if I wer the US legislators, I would tell you: "Hold on a second, you prove to me that your marriage is bona fide and since the burden of the proof is on you, but the verifying of the evidence is on me, you are going to have to wait slightly longer, because I can approve a clearly sounder case in a shorter time.."

As I said, I think they are already applying this kind of reasoning; CBP officers already do that when judging if you can go in or not. CBP separates US/Canadian passports from other passports when it comes to the waiting lines at the airports. Why couldn't USCIS apply similar rules? Some countries have pre-immigration checks (Ireland, Canada, etc.). Yes, there is DCF, but why not expanding these procedures?

I just think that the USCIS is a very antiquated, inefficient process and although it probably "protects the nation" (still to be verified...), it does it in the worst possible way, which is to separate families for the longest time, irrespective of the risks they pose. On the other hand, they let someone come to the US very easily to form a new family. That does sound strange to me. I'd expand, simplify and speed up the K-3 for all that request it, so that one can more easily come to the US and apply for CR-1 there, if one wants to, without putting such couples at a perceived disadvantage compared to someone who applies for a K-1 to get married in the US...

I know going in that my wife's K3 through China is going to take longer than in some countries like England and that our relationship is likely to be scrutinzed more but the timing isn't about priority. It's about workload in Guangzhou.

Absolutely; but it does not seem to go that way exactly, and here I am NOT talking about consulate level, where your argument does apply. I am talking about USCIS level. There it does not matter about where you are from. It is simply first in, first screened. HOWEVER what it seems to me is that it is not normally the case that people from higher-risk marriage fraud countries get a later NOA2 than from low-fraud countries. This is not statistically verified, but just my gut feelings. It seems to me that actually some petitioners from the UK or Canada actually get held up for a hell long time, apparently without reasons (if we have to go by what they tell us).

THEN, it is the consular stage, and what happens there is another story. If I was the legistaltor, I'd put MORE resources and consulates in countries that require more officers, and of course I'd charge more for this stage to offer a better service. This charge would be discounted later down the line somehow if the visa was approved, in order to increase the cost/opportunity for fraudsters.

If you want to cut in line ahead of somebody who met on the internet or a party to introduce J1 visa holders to potential USC mates, you're going to come out bloody. (in a free speech sense)

I think that more checks should be applied to someone who has a higher potential rate of fraud. That is just common sense and serves to protect the country from potential frauds. However bad it may sound, if you have a criminal record, you are going to get questioned longer, right?

Same, if you are likely to engage in a criminal activity, I may want to check upon you longer. I do not see why everyone else should pay (in time and $$) for that.

Also, if you are a USC petitioning for your spouse, you have one treatment. If you are a legal resident, you have ANOTHER treatment. If you are petitioning for direct family, you have one treatment, if you are petitioning for different relatives, you have another. It is ALL about priority and processes. Economics teaches us that resources allocation based on needs & cost/opportunity is the best and fastest way to fix a system. Checks and balances, in order to preserve the security of the system without jeopardizing its equality in front of the law, can take various forms, including differential treatment for different cases. This of course must be mitigated with common sense and a good dose of equality.

Have I made my point?

I think you have made your point clear, thank you. Hope you also got mine, although you do not have to agree with it.

Peace.

Well, it does not make or break my day to advance my case with you or not. Call me a relationship bigot because my point perhaps doesn't fit with your way of meeting your wife or idealistic model of marriage fraud detection.

However that is what I think and I appreciate your acknowledging it without telling me what is ok here and what it isn't: free to tell me what is ok or not for you. Not sure if where you belong there is such thing as "free speech" and freedom of opinion. Where I hail from, that is basics. I know China is not really big on respecting dissenting opinion, but hey, thank goodness we are still petitioning to a free country!

I wasn't hoping to convince you, just to make sure that my point is understood.

Yes, I absolutely think that different histories of courtship/marriage should be treated differently at an INQUIRY/CHECK level, because that in my opinion would be the only way to make the process more efficient and effective.

I didn't say that K-1 cannot be normal couples. I just said that it annoys me that they are approved before already married couples, and that is a totally different issue from marriage fraud.

As to "normal international couple", I used the term with reference to marriage frauds/mail-order brides/wanna get married to get a green card kind of couples, basically people that get married just to get US residence/citizenship, people that get married without ever meeting, people that have known each other for 2 weeks online before getting married and filing a petition. In my opinion, that is NOT a normal international couple, and although it could happen and be totally fine, legit, absolutely loved-based and disinterested, statistically, that would probably be an exception.

Normally such relationships would raise doubts about the bona fide nature of marriage, and therefore should be treated differently from other, just because they require further checks. I think part of the focus of the job of the adjudicator is to establish that this bona fide relationship exists, and therefore separating in the adjudication process different modalities of relationships/marriages, countries with high rates of fraud, etc. (even if this could run various risks of endangering the equality of the process), could be a way of optimizing time and resources, putting more controls where more controls are needed from a statistical point of view. Eventually this would up the process for all legit applicants and would.

I am sure that adjudicators already have risk analysis models and algorithms, but if we have to go by the time they adjudicate and listening to some of the stories of people on these forums, there still seems to be lots of ground to cover to make them more reliable, functional and especially speedy and just for all.

This is similar to policing and legislating: we are all equal in front of the law, but it does not mean that you would want to use limited resources in the same way, irrespective of the goals we want to achieve and the statistical observations or realities underlying them.

I hope I made my point clearer. Thanks for a chance to clarify a comment that might have been wrenched out of its meaning otherwise.

What constitutes a "normal international couple" and why do K1 couples not qualify as normal international couples?

Call me an egoist, but I do not really give a toss. Whether they get caught or not, it is not my business. Of course it ticks me off big thing that there are so many marriage scams, especially from a few countries, that slow down the whole process for everyone... If I was the legislator, I'd single them out for extra checks, but not at the expense of everyone else. This dual-speed system is basically what is already in place with Visa-Waiver and visitors' visa regulations, isn't it?

Why some countries do not get offered Visa Waiver rights? Because they are perceived as "high risk"...

All I care is that us, normal international couples, do not get disadvantaged and get lower priority than K-1 applicants... That REALLY ticks me off!

Hello everyone. I have been a lurker on this site for a few months now. I'm not really much of a chatter but I overheard something really disturbing a few hours ago at work, so i have to vent a little. One of my co-workers (that i really dont know very well) was telling another co-worker that one of his friends invited him to this party where he said there will be a bunch of women with J visas looking for American citizens to marry so they can come here and live permanently ...If I'm not mistaken, he called it an "immigration party."... This just pissed me the heck off!!! Though I'm not really that surprised....

I'm afraid you haven't advanced your case. You made a long list of what isn't normal without saying what is. Your relationship bigotry is showing. Nobody wants fraudulent relationships to clog up the system but you seem to want to treat cases differently based on how the couple met and courted. This is relationship bigotry and has no place here.

If you think people who court on the internet a few weeks and marry on the first visit should be treated differently than those who meet and court more traditionally, I'm afraid I'm going to have my five foot nothin Chinese wife take you out to the woodshed for a session of whoopash.

Oh, you met on the internet, back of the line with you, indeed.

Thank you Pushbrk, but my question was: normally, how long does it take them to ADD new data to their files once received, ifsomeone files late and/or not-electronically?

I had read somewhere that it takes sometimes months..

Definitely once we get a NOA2, we will start making direct inquiries about what is available already, or how long we'll have to wait for those data to be updated..

If you call them, they'll tell you what's available and fax them to you immediately.

Loto, please let us know how it goes this way. We'd be looking at doing the same, if transcripts do not make it on time.

We filed for 3 years+2007 MANUALLY (we were told we could not file electronically, so we filed also 2007 manually, possi bly a mistake...) this April, because we had lived abroad and never filed since. Not sure how long before the data are entered in the system by the IRS. Of course if they are not entered in the system, there is no point requesting a transcript that would stop at 2003!

Anyone got any idea how long it will take IRS, hit or miss?

Woah this is a good question!!!

I just filled out the EZ today. All I have is transcripts though. My 2007 is the actual copy of the w2.

Should I just tear up the EZ and fill out the regular I-864???

I sent I-864 with last 3 years (2007, 2006 & 2005) original tax transcripts. No 1040, no W-2 etc...

But included original employment letter and copies of all paystubs in 2008.

I didn't say that K-1 cannot be normal couples. I just said that it annoys me that they are approved before already married couples, and that is a totally different issue from marriage fraud.

As to "normal international couple", I used the term with reference to marriage frauds/mail-order brides/wanna get married to get a green card kind of couples, basically people that get married just to get US residence/citizenship, people that get married without ever meeting, people that have known each other for 2 weeks online before getting married and filing a petition. In my opinion, that is NOT a normal international couple, and although it could happen and be totally fine, legit, absolutely loved-based and disinterested, statistically, that would probably be an exception.

Normally such relationships would raise doubts about the bona fide nature of marriage, and therefore should be treated differently from other, just because they require further checks. I think part of the focus of the job of the adjudicator is to establish that this bona fide relationship exists, and therefore separating in the adjudication process different modalities of relationships/marriages, countries with high rates of fraud, etc. (even if this could run various risks of endangering the equality of the process), could be a way of optimizing time and resources, putting more controls where more controls are needed from a statistical point of view. Eventually this would up the process for all legit applicants and would.

I am sure that adjudicators already have risk analysis models and algorithms, but if we have to go by the time they adjudicate and listening to some of the stories of people on these forums, there still seems to be lots of ground to cover to make them more reliable, functional and especially speedy and just for all.

This is similar to policing and legislating: we are all equal in front of the law, but it does not mean that you would want to use limited resources in the same way, irrespective of the goals we want to achieve and the statistical observations or realities underlying them.

I hope I made my point clearer. Thanks for a chance to clarify a comment that might have been wrenched out of its meaning otherwise.

What constitutes a "normal international couple" and why do K1 couples not qualify as normal international couples?

Call me an egoist, but I do not really give a toss. Whether they get caught or not, it is not my business. Of course it ticks me off big thing that there are so many marriage scams, especially from a few countries, that slow down the whole process for everyone... If I was the legislator, I'd single them out for extra checks, but not at the expense of everyone else. This dual-speed system is basically what is already in place with Visa-Waiver and visitors' visa regulations, isn't it?

Why some countries do not get offered Visa Waiver rights? Because they are perceived as "high risk"...

All I care is that us, normal international couples, do not get disadvantaged and get lower priority than K-1 applicants... That REALLY ticks me off!

Hello everyone. I have been a lurker on this site for a few months now. I'm not really much of a chatter but I overheard something really disturbing a few hours ago at work, so i have to vent a little. One of my co-workers (that i really dont know very well) was telling another co-worker that one of his friends invited him to this party where he said there will be a bunch of women with J visas looking for American citizens to marry so they can come here and live permanently ...If I'm not mistaken, he called it an "immigration party."... This just pissed me the heck off!!! Though I'm not really that surprised....

So after she makes such a comment, how credible is she from 1 to 10? 0.5??

I think that there are not that many CR1/K3 left... I think we are stuck between Dec. and Jan, with a few cases from Oct. and Nov. still pending. The thing is, the pace is so slow that I do not count on any approval for March~ers before Aug...

129F for K3 and yes, it ain't new.

Call me an egoist, but I do not really give a toss. Whether they get caught or not, it is not my business. Of course it ticks me off big thing that there are so many marriage scams, especially from a few countries, that slow down the whole process for everyone... If I was the legislator, I'd single them out for extra checks, but not at the expense of everyone else. This dual-speed system is basically what is already in place with Visa-Waiver and visitors' visa regulations, isn't it?

Why some countries do not get offered Visa Waiver rights? Because they are perceived as "high risk"...

All I care is that us, normal international couples, do not get disadvantaged and get lower priority than K-1 applicants... That REALLY ticks me off!

Hello everyone. I have been a lurker on this site for a few months now. I'm not really much of a chatter but I overheard something really disturbing a few hours ago at work, so i have to vent a little. One of my co-workers (that i really dont know very well) was telling another co-worker that one of his friends invited him to this party where he said there will be a bunch of women with J visas looking for American citizens to marry so they can come here and live permanently ...If I'm not mistaken, he called it an "immigration party."... This just pissed me the heck off!!! Though I'm not really that surprised....

Loto, please let us know how it goes this way. We'd be looking at doing the same, if transcripts do not make it on time.

We filed for 3 years+2007 MANUALLY (we were told we could not file electronically, so we filed also 2007 manually, possi bly a mistake...) this April, because we had lived abroad and never filed since. Not sure how long before the data are entered in the system by the IRS. Of course if they are not entered in the system, there is no point requesting a transcript that would stop at 2003!

Anyone got any idea how long it will take IRS, hit or miss?

Woah this is a good question!!!

I just filled out the EZ today. All I have is transcripts though. My 2007 is the actual copy of the w2.

Should I just tear up the EZ and fill out the regular I-864???

I sent I-864 with last 3 years (2007, 2006 & 2005) original tax transcripts. No 1040, no W-2 etc...

But included original employment letter and copies of all paystubs in 2008.