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15 minutes ago, NikLR said:

Apparently the fiancee is bisexual and currently in relationship with a man (the OP.)

Yes, she has a Twitter where she has lived as open LGBT and atheist since 2015. I mention these as reasons to be able to request an expedite with USCIS. Also the lawyer said its easy to explain the wanting to get married soon after meeting as it is customary in her culture. And yes I love her very much and I have know her for years. 

24 minutes ago, mcdull said:

Why Hong Kong though? We do not admit refugeees or asylees 

As I understand it since 2014 you have the USM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugees_in_Hong_Kong#Unified_Screening_Mechanism
Which processes asylum claims. Its incredibly difficult to be successful and most get referred for placement in other countries.
If you know differently let me know, I am open to being wrong. I just want her safe. This is only a back up plan incase she doesnt get a TRV visa to canada 

8 minutes ago, mcdull said:

Why don’t you try Jeju Korea?

 

perhaps Malaysia or Singapore? 

She is a Chadian citizen so she would need a visa for Korea otherwise it would be the first choice. Malaysia is corupt and will return Saudis on request. Sinapore is an option however its an unknown as far as safety.

Just now, Boiler said:

Canada is much more migrant friendly.

 I know and I have family up there that has influence. However my life is in America..

Anyways thanks everyone for the help I really do appreciate it. I knew this wasn't going to be easy.

9 minutes ago, Jojo92122 said:

Okay.  People in HK are probably satisfy with the reality of one country, two systems.  Democracy protesters are happy with the good common law justice system there under Beijing rule.  China doesn't need oil from Saudi Arabia.  Surely, HK under Beijing rule will be happy to help.  

Hong Kong is a known safe area for Saudis that are fleeing, I have contacted organizations that help Saudis and they told me that however you could also be correct.

Just now, Alabamak1 said:

have you consider your options how you could take her to Canada instead? VJ is not the place you are going to find a solution to this problem.  

I have and a Canadian lawyer is next, and I figured, thats why I am paying $200 just for a 45 minute consultation tomorrow. 

3 minutes ago, Jojo92122 said:

Okay.  People in HK are probably satisfy with the reality of one country, two systems.  

Im sure they would rather still be under the British however Hong Kong is safe, and provides legal aid to refugees. 

Just now, C&AH said:

It is a wise move on your part to speak with an attorney because this sounds like a complicated case and maybe beyond the scope of VJ. Like someone else said, it sounds like an uphill battle. My thinking is that you are going to need a lot of convincing evidence to show that she is not merely seeking asylum in the United States.  Listen to your lawyer tomorrow but I do wonder if, given all of the circumstances,  that you might have a stronger case with a CR1. 

 

A side question is what would her father say or do if she marries you? 

 

 

He will say he is going to kill her to protect his honor. also thank you, if america isnt a good option I am also a Canadian citizen. I just want her to be safe and have a life with her.

2 minutes ago, Alabamak1 said:

if you can manage to get her into a country that is not so abrupt into deporting her back to Chad or Saudi Arabia and her getting a temporary residency for the time being....a k-1 would be the fastest rout in my opinion. How are you guys going to meet in Saudi Arabia? or you going to meet in HK?

We will meet in HK

3 minutes ago, Jojo92122 said:

It's best if you talk with a qualified immigration lawyer. 

 

Who in their right mind seeks asylum in a place ruled by China.

 

Your fiancee can not apply for US asylum from China.  If she seeks asylum in HK, then she is asking the Chinese Government for protection.  Her asylum case would be evaluated under Chinese laws by the Chinese Government.  

 

http://www.thatsmags.com/shanghai/post/19734/an-asylum-seekers-firsthand-account-of-life-in-china

 

One county, two systems. Hong Kong has a good common law justice system.

3 minutes ago, Boiler said:

I thought you had not met

 

If she claims Asylum in Hong Kong it would be to stay there

 

I did not think Saudi did permanent residence. Just temp.

Hong Kong isn't a signatory to the 1951 convention, its not true asylum its a stay of deportation while the UNHCR looks for a country willing to resettle her.

2 minutes ago, Boiler said:

I thought you had not met

 

If she claims Asylum in Hong Kong it would be to stay there

 

I did not think Saudi did permanent residence. Just temp.

So she is the child of a Chadian, and a Saudi mother. Under Saudi law she should have citizenship but the rule of law is a joke there. She has permeant residency by being her mothers child thats it.

Just now, Alabamak1 said:

i hope this is a real relationship, because you are gonna have to try to convince a lot of people that this is all true and overcome many hurdles. Not being cynical here, but this sounds like a battle uphill for you.  To answer your question...there is no way faster than k-1 at the moment and to my knowledge

I have been with her for over a year and have a lot of evidence to that effect. I can marry her once she is in Hong Kong and file a CR-1 then.

7 minutes ago, Alabamak1 said:

i know you are in a tight position here, but it's all going to take time. K-1 is about 7 months now. The US embassy would be the one handling your interview. How would anyone know that she is planning to immigrate to the US? ....before that, USCIS is the one revising the petition. There was another VJ member who had a Filipino fiance not to long ago here. Getting something expedited is to my opinion a long shot.

Even with the death threats she will receive from her family? And the many news stories about Saudi women the family found and killed?

Just now, jdaveh said:

Is family with her in Saudi Arabia?

Yes, her mom, siblings and uncles. When she leaves her uncles will attempt to track her down and kill her. There has been many news articles about this happening to Saudi women as evidence 

Just now, Alabamak1 said:

how is this a relationship if you are male? i am a little confused? she is a LGBT and you are her fiance (a male) 

She is bisexual. The atheism alone is enough for asylum and most counties in Europe being a woman in Saudi alone is enough.

1 minute ago, Alabamak1 said:

i know you are in a tight position here, but it's all going to take time. K-1 is about 7 months now. The US embassy would be the one handling your interview. How would anyone know that she is planning to immigrate to the US? ....before that, USCIS is the one revising the petition. There was another VJ member who had a Filipino fiance not to long ago here. Getting something expedited is to my opinion a long shot.

I would also need to meet her inperson and if upon exiting the country they see that she has a US K-1 visa they will inprison her as well.

1 minute ago, Boiler said:

It does not exist.

I thought you were female?

I am male, she is female.

Just now, Alabamak1 said:

Can she not stay the K-1 process in Saudi Arabia? She is ok and so far a resident of Saudi Arabia...

She would be imprisioned for knowing a non family male before marriage.

Just now, p-ana said:

Never heard of dcf for k1.

I can marry her first and file for a Cr-1 then

1 minute ago, Boiler said:

So you would be applying for Humanitarian reasons as she is in Hong Kong?

Yes that is correct, while you can claim asylum in Hong Kong, all you are really doing is getting a stay of deportation while the UNHCR finds a country willing to resettle you as I understand it. She won't be truly safe yet.

In short I am trying to help my fiancée get a K-1 visa however the circumstances will be very urgent.

My fiancee is 20 and currently lives in Saudi Arabia. She is an atheist and LGBT both of which are death sentences in her country. She will soon be allowed to travel on her own to Hong Kong. When she is there she will try to seek protection as an Asylum seeker.

I would like to bring her to the US as fast as possible on a K-1 visa.

I am 25, make $100K and live in Boston
I have no criminal record, previous marriages, or previous immigration sponsorships. I am a US citizen by birth.

She is 20, currently lives in Saudi Arabia, has no previous marriages, no criminal record of any kind. She is a citizen of Chad and has permeant residence in Saudi Arabia. If she goes to Chad her father who lives there will force her into marriage with someone she doesn't know.

I plan on meeting her in person in Hong Kong for the first time so I can't file petition ahead of time.

I have my first meeting with a very good immigration lawyer tomorrow, from my research DCF under humanitarian reasons might expedite the processing. Do you think this situation would qualify? We have gathered a lot of evidence of the abuse and capital punishment she would receive if she had to go back home. They behead ex-muslims there.

In addition is there any alternative routes I am missing?