David-Hien

GOOD LUCK TO YOU ALL

You must prepare the evidence carefully eventhough the CO want it or not. In some cases, they only require for one kind of evidence, then they approved.

The most important is your evidence. Which is clear enough to make people believe on your relationship.

I used to bring into Consulate a heavy back-bag of evidence, around 5 kgs of all evidence. But they only read my emails of the first period, that's all. Then they talked to me like the people who was curious to know about a love story and approved. I still remember the feelings how heavy the back-bag was when I came in there. I only could draw it on the ground with me, couldnot carry on the last minutes going out of the Consulate.

However, we have to prepare carefully, because who knows they will ask for which evidence?? At that time, the fiance/wife cannot come back home to get that evidence.

Hien

From what I've read, if your tax return exceeds the 125% poverty line then you don't really need to provide a bank statement showing when you opened the account and the sum amount deposited for the past 12 months.

Yes, that's right. I asked my attorney (previous case), but you can ask the Bank make 1 for you incase (you will never know). Make sure in letterhead. btw, can you speak a little bit Viets? because they may interview you (I read somewhere on VJ).

Good luck with a pink slip.!

Hi Haonie. Yes, I'm Vietnamese. I can speak, read, and write. I left Vietnam when I was 7.

Hi MR2nice,

If you are the Vietnamese and you was introduced to your fiance by relatives, you should be careful. What was the evidence for the very first time you talk to each other?? Email or phone?? How did you say in your petition??

The evidence will be checked depending on each case. It depends on how you know each other. How long your relationship was. How good in English your fiance is.

If you are Vietnamese, she can speak Vietnamese in the interview. The interpreter will translate for her.

About the evidence, she must bring all evidence you could have, the phone records and the explanation letter as well. She has to read that letter and understand it before the interview.

Good luck to you.

Hien

congrats!

Any ideas on why they were skeptical?

My opinion: long courtships for the consulate = real deal.

Anything less than two year courtship; they'll be skeptical.

I would too, wouldn't you?

To mytrang_chinhgoc, time and time, I see people get blue and green consistantly when it comes to case that has a short timeline, nothing personal or special treatment which HCMC gives your case. I'm glad you take the process with a clear mind and high concentration and extremely focus. Congratulations and let's this be an example and encouragement for all who are going through and struggle with HCMC.

Chuck and Kim

It's understandable why they would be skeptical at HCMC, but I always liken the situation to my parents (met to married in 6 months, 24 years later still married) and my younger brother (met to married in 5 months, married for 2 years now). You can never really know when it comes to love. It is still very understandable that such a high fraud post would be skeptical though.

I did read through a couple posts and saw that yours had a real tough interview. Does she only speak Viet or does she know english as well? I'm assuming she spoke Viet and the translator messed around with her?

I can only imagine (for now) how good it feels to know you got the pink in the end.

If people here saw the terrible way that some applicants are treated; these "kind" words of understanding their scepticism probably would not be said.

I saw the way one of the CO's was treating an applicant. In my opinion, he was very unprofessional. He looked angry to me. He used the interpreters to speak with applicants. I'm pretty sure he's the same guy who interviewed my wife based upon her description. My wife ended up in tears after speaking to him and I bet she's not the only one.

However, they aren't all bad. When I went into the consulate, the CO that I talked to was polite. He was not the same angry guy that I saw talking to others. This guy spoke Vietnamese and seemed to talk politely to the Vietnamese applicants. I actually saw him speaking Vietnamese to an interviewee without an interpreter.

You are correct at the point that "no one can explain what is love". Love can come anytime, anywhere.

But the CO are still very surprised if the wife/fiance cannot speak English while the husband/fiance is the Americans. Then if your timeline is short, it will raise the doubtfull. In this situation, your case may be delayed in long time.

If your case is delayed, the American husband/fiance should come to the Consulate to clearify the situation and try to meet the CO to explain/talk to them. That way can help to cut short the time.

I agreed with chuckandkim in this point. Mytrang-chinhgoc did the right way.

Hien

If all of you had other evidence of the first period such as emails, I think that the phone records will not be a problem. I think you may ignore the phone records and should not show to them if you had other better evidence.

Unless they ask for the phone records of first period you may have to show.

About the explaination letter, I don't know if you should have the notarization. But if it can make the evidence look better, just do that and send to her in VN.

When I was in the interview, I had only emails for the first period. We sent email to each other for 2 years plus 1 year of waiting for visa. We sent one email per day at least. Three years are more than one thousand days. It means we had more than two thousand emails, which made them impressed. The CO took ten minutes to read all the email of our first period.

Good luck to you all,

Hien

Just try to show them all the new information of 2008 tax if you could have, eventhough the W2 ones. CO will not make it difficulty. They understand.

Dear MR2nice,

I'm sorry if I could make you worry. But it doesn't matter how you arrange your evidence.

The CO will ask how did you know each other and evidence for the very first time you met. They did the same in every interview.

I think that you should draft a letter to explain as you said on this forum. If they don't not ask this detail, you would be lucky. If they ask for evidence your wife/fiance have show to them what you had (the phone card and the phone records with the phone number of 1-800, 1-888,... ) and explain as your letter.

Do you have any other kind of evidence such as emails?? They can accept for emails. We didn't have the phone records for the first period but we had the emails.

Good luck

Hien

It may be different from state to state. My stepfather found out there is a way for my wife to transfer her high school diploma from her country over and have an actual high school diploma instead of a G E D. She does need to take an English and Math compensy test. She also needs her Greencard. The math goes up to pre algebra and the English is also pretty advance. Right now my stepfather is teaching her math and English (he's a former teacher). By the time she gets her Greencard she should be well prepare for this test. Maybe your state has something like that?

Just my thought! Consider chuckandkim's advice.

I came to the community college, they only required me for the ESL and Accuplace test. Let her learn English first, then the other subjects will be done later when she is fluently English.

Tuyen & I got married on May 9 and there were problems getting the certificate. I went back in July to get the certificate. We used july on our forms, even though we were married a couple months before that.

Tell them the married date: 9th as you said, it is late due to the paperwork process.

and the ceremony is on : 8th as you had booked and prepared, you cannot delay to wait for the marriage certificate.

The Consulate officer will ask her for both dates.

We applied for Sercuriy number on 27th Aug. They said i will get it in 2 weekd. After 3 weeks i didnt get it yet so my husband called them to ask and they said have to wait in about 6 weeks. And now I still didnt get the number yet, So we went to the office yesterday to ask them and the woman who helped us before said: there is someone same my name and same my birthday that's why she called me and my husband before and she got all the imformation, thought it's ok and i would get it soon... They said sorry about that and checked it again. Now all is clear, they will mail me in 2 weeks.

hehee, same name and birthdate is usually happened for our Viet people here. Hope everything will be ok for you. How is life in the US? Did you get use to it yet?

You should have a longer name with birthday on 29 Feb, then they cannot blaim for name and birthday.

I had to wait for 6 weeks to get SSN.

I need a good lawyer in VN for my K1. anyone know any good one. thanks

Marc Ellis - email address: some one in here can give you through the message.

Hi guys,

Does anyonw know what will be happening after additional documents is submitted per direction in the blue slip in HCM Consulate? Will my wife submit the additional doc, sit and wait for the answer from the review/CO in the SAME DAY? Or she will have to go home and wait endlessly for the decision in the mail after document submission?

Also, is my wife the only one who can submit the required doc or I, the petitioner, can walk in and submit the docs (if I can be in the country)?

Thanks

It is hardly to answer your question as you didn't post in details the story about your case: how is the interview, how is your documents, how is your time line, how is your evidences, ... everything is very general.

If you don't want to let the others know your case in details, you should search in the previous time to see in the other cases, that got blue sheet to have the answer.

Hien

Anyone know a good lawyer for Vietnam consulate. I heard a lot of people using the lawyer by the name of Marc Ellis, if anyone know his contact information, please let me know? thanks in advance.....

Did you get Marc Ellis's address already or not?? If not, please tell me, I will send you his email address to contact.

Hien

CONGRATULATION and good luck in USA

About the time for package 3 and 4. I remember I said on this forum a long time ago. Why don't you search??

When you send back package 3, they will send to you the package 4 around 2 or 2 and a half month later.

The interview date will be arranged around 3 months from the date you send package 3 back to Consulate (received date).

Hien

Here's an article about the topic in Vietnamese:

www.nguoi-viet.com/absolutenm/anmviewer.asps?a=65295z=85

According to the author, who is the CEO of CIS in Houston, Texas, it's foolish to apply for visa waiver...

Vietnam nowadays has a very weak law system (the forest law: "lua^.t ru*`ng"), the corruption is normal there. Besides, we went out of VN, it means we are no longer the Vietnamese but "Viet kieu", who can has some money to bribe . When we come back to VN, it means we are the strangers and we have to follow all the rules of the owners (Nha^.p gia tu`y tu.c).

If they want to arrest anyone, they can do it any time. This new change of visa regulation is no meaning to the matter they will keep you there or let you leave VN. As I told you that's such forest law (luat rung), they can do what they want, it doesn't matter the law regulated or not, only the money can protect you there under the corruption system of government. So, your discussion about the new visa regulation only wastes your time and bother your mind. It's Vietnam, not USA.

Hien

I think that you should ask for help from M.E now. The more earlier he goes into your case, the more percentage of successful for your wife's visa.

M.E. is not the God who can do everything the clients want, but at least he is the best one (according to my opinion) who can help you now.

Hien

I had her call EVA air in Saigon last night, they told her to get the ticket in her married (green card's) name and also show our marriage certificate. They said that leaving Viet Nam is difficult as just a passport holder and the ticket s hould match her green card, proving that she is indeed a permanent resident of America, otherwise they may give her a hard time, maybe even keeping her off the flight. I'm planning on calling EVA air in America next Monday to confirm this, because I keep getting mixed responces. I think it's just Viet Nam that makes this such a difficult situation, other countries, I'm sure, are easier and more understanding.

I come back to this topic as I was wondering what kind of document I will need to come back to USA?? Green card and the Vietnamese passport?? Who had the experience to fly to VN then come back USA, please advise.

About the maiden name, I was in trouble in the gate of Sea-Tac when I came to USA. The officer, who asked me for my mother maiden name, was the Middle-East man. Their tradition is completely different to Vietnamese and American about the name as well. I told him my mother maiden name (family name), but then he asked me so many times again as he wanted her "private name" (????) while the private name is never changed. It meant I answered the wrong one, then my husband had to explain to him that Vietnamese tradition is completely different to the American one. I guessed that he might mix up with the Middle-East tradition as their name goes with completely different style. It's really stressful as I didn't know what I should answer, say according to the American tradition, Vietnamese tradition or the Middle-East people's tradition (which I didn't know exactly)

I think in this case, you should check with some ones who has been changed her name after get married to know their experiences. Anyone here can help more in this topic?? Please advise.

Hien

I think ding is doing the right thing. If you have read his case I think that most people will see that a prenup is the right thing to do. His other personal issues are just that, his personal issues

Well, it's up to each case to say, I also read so many articles on other websites which said about Vietnam tourist and the scam from Vietnam. Sincerely say, I feel ashame for Vietnamese to read that articles and feel sad. So, just do what you think that it can protect you for your happiness.

Hien

I'm with you!

Think of it this way, it's too late when you're married. She knows where you sleep at night, she knows where you take a #######, don't be caught with your strouse down. Why should you be worry that she may take your earthly possesion when the more important question I should be asking: We have No trust in our marriage, can this be everlasting, or We will be constantly looking out for each other? I wouldn't get married if that is the precondition!

I agree with chuckandkim in this point. I'm sorry to say that I cannot completely understand what about the topic due to some strange words, but I can guess by the replies that you said about the "property contract" before marriage??

Ummm, don't think that only the Americans are the richest ones, and don't think that only the Americans can make more money than the others in USA.

The contract is only correct when your wife has nothing before you get married, if she had the house, private company, and her own business on her country, what would you do?? I think, at that time, she would set up the contract and ask you to sign the first.

Hien

Hien Oi

Why would you want to worry about renewing your passport during your special trip to Vietnam while visiting your family during the Tet Holidays, plus your passport won't be expired and what if, the VNs gov't passport agency doesn't have your new passport ready when you're due to fly back to the USA? ( I feel stress already.....) Simple, June 2008, download the correct forms from the VNs Washington DC Embassy, fillout papers, cashiers check, certified envelope & return envelope and wait, wait and wait....... it took my wife's "5 year renewal VNs passport" about 2 months to be processed

Chuc Mai Man O nuoc My

Good Luck Live America

P

Thank you Patrick, I will renew my passport at the Vietnamese Embassy.

Hien

Tuyen got a blue slip . The CO wanted to know why we did not have an engagement party and why we got married on the first trip. I have to write letter explaining why. She has to go back in a week to give the letter to them. Once they get the letter it should be PINK.

You should check carefully with Tuyen to know what the CO said. We never have any engagement or wedding ceremony but I can pass the interview. The wedding or engagement ceremony is not important, the time for your relationship developed is the most imporatant factor to prove your relationship.

Good luck.

Hien

BEST WISHES TO YOU.

Hien

Not that I'm aware of!

STL_HCMC

Thank you STL_HCMC. does Visa Journey have a reminder on the website?

Ok, I noted your reminder, I still have to do the removal of conditional status after two years.

Thank you,

Hien

Ridejewel, where are you, I was waiting for your phone call.