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My brother, who is on an F4 application, recently got married and successfully added his wife to his application (as an accompanying dependant).

Coincidentally, his mother-in-law (who is the mother of his wife) became a naturalized citizen a few months ago.

Is it possible for the mother-in-law to apply for her daughter and my brother under the F3 category while the F4 application is still in progress?

Kindly advise. Thank you all.

On 11/16/2022 at 9:15 AM, RacD said:

If a person files for his siblings today, then what is the roughly expected time for the priority date getting current? What year?

I've been waiting for 15 years and my PD is yet to be current.

Except the policies change, you may have to think of about 15 to 20 years for F4.

Emolument

Dear @Lixoh, after receiving your visa, did you eventually apply for Follow To Join for your spouse or you started a fresh application for F-2A?

I want to test the practicability of the Follow To Join option and if the timeframe will be shorter than F-2A?

I hope @arken and every other experienced people here can share their insights.

I'm just here to learn from everybody. Thanks.

Hi Lixoh, did you eventually apply for Follow-To-Join as suggested by @arken?

I'm facing a similar situation.

On 8/28/2022 at 12:45 AM, Family said:

You only pay one AoS fee but additional IV fee for husband, in case that was not clear.

Thank you!

You have been very helpful.

2 hours ago, Family said:

1. Pay the fee and update the Petitioner/Sponsor  I-864 to show you and family member/ husband ( both of you get included in the same updated I-864 form)

 

2. I think you are asking about the Sponsor qualifying income …see link

https://www.uscis.gov/i-864p

 

3. Don’t miss out on the opportunity to ADD your husband NOW and risk being separated for years ..just get some help in getting it done and uploaded. If your Petitioner /Sponsor doesn’t make enough income to qualify for the two of you, get a Joint Sponsor. 
 

****They will NOT treat your case better if you leave your husband behind. So ask your Petitioner to do everything possible to add your husband now***

Dear Family,

Wow! Thank you so much!

I'm more enlightened & convinced now.

48 minutes ago, Timona said:

You have to mention that you're married in your application. 

They can follow to join or you can file for them once you're in US. Follow to join seems like the best option 

Dear Timona,

It is very kind of you to respond. Thank you.

You are right on FTJ being the best option. I am thinking of exploring it.

I am, however, concerned about AoS for the derivative. Hence, my questions up there.

Thanks again.

Dear All,

Please advise me:

Category: F41

I want to include my spouse to my F41 application as a derivative (Follow To Join).

My Questions:

1. Apart from the fee payable for the derivative application, will I need to submit another AoS for the derivative beside the one already uploaded by the petitioner?
2. If a derivative is included in the application, is there a scale for assessing how sufficient (adequate) an AoS is for 2 applicants (the derivative and me)? Can there be a case of "Inadequate AoS for 2 applicants"? I only plan to include my spouse as we do not have a kid yet.
3. Or is it better to just complete my application alone with the hope of filing a new application for my spouse under F2A? I am really afraid for the length of time for this option.

Please help.

Thank you.

On 5/8/2021 at 1:20 AM, SusieQQQ said:

If you’re the principal beneficiary then all you need to do is marry her and add her to your case as a derivative, and she can get a visa the same time as you. They will probably want to see proof that it is a bona fide marriage at the interview considering the timing involved.

Hi SusieQQQ, thank you for being so helpful.

I have more questions to ask please:

We are a family of 4 siblings: The first and second are USCs while the third and fourth are not (I am the 3rd child).

The 1st elder one (brother - "Sibling A") is my principal applicant on FB-4.

The second elder sibling (sister - "Sibling B") is the principal applicant for my immediate younger brother, FB-4 too.

AOS: Sibling A (my elder brother) could not provide adequate AOS, so he enlisted "Sibling B" to provide supporting AOS for me. Also, the same "Sibling B" (my sister who has provided a supporting AOS for me) is the person providing AOS for my younger brother.

My question is this: "Sibling B" (my elder sister) is the only person who has provided both AOS for me and my younger brother. Will this be enough to cover my finacee if I marry her and include her to my application as a derivative? I am afraid that it may be flagged as an 'overload' on her financial assessment.

1. What can I do if my fear is the case?

2. Is there any other alternative that I can explore if I eventually travel to the US and I want to apply for her to join me within a short time?

I hope I have not left you confused with my long twisted explanation. 🙂

Hope you or anyone else can reply. Thanks a lot.

On 5/8/2021 at 11:56 AM, Gakay said:

When were u dq'd

July 2020

8 hours ago, SusieQQQ said:

If you’re the principal beneficiary then all you need to do is marry her and add her to your case as a derivative, and she can get a visa the same time as you. They will probably want to see proof that it is a bona fide marriage at the interview considering the timing involved.

I'll definitely consider this.

Thank you very much.

4 hours ago, SusieQQQ said:

Are you the principal beneficiary or a derivative on the F4? There are very different answers to your question depending on this information. 

Hi. Thank you for your quick help.

I am the principal beneficiary. #FB-4

Hi,

My Status:

1. F4 Category

2. Documentary Qualified and awaiting interview invitation.

3. I have a fiancee and I wish to settle in marriage with her.

Question:

I wish to settle with my fiancee in marriage but I am afraid of the separation when my visa is eventually granted.

What advice do you have for me on how to fast-track her application once my F4 application is successful?

I am very worried about this.

Please help with advice. Thanks

On 9/30/2020 at 5:55 PM, juliusbliss said:

Hello VJ family! 

 

Just got an email from the embassy 2hrs ago to submit the required documents. Attached is the email. Thank you Jesus it's about time. 

Congratulation! That's some progress there.

Once, my brother was denied because he has a pending immigrant visa application.

2 hours ago, L&U said:

Hello guys!! Have a good day. With all these lock-downs in the world, what should you do if you cannot obtain a police clearance certificate due to closure of relevant division in the police department?

I'm afraid there is nothing much you can do as the Police Report is part of the mandatory documents to present for review.

It's quite unfortunate what the world is going through and how we all have to wait until it's over.

28 minutes ago, sanjaybb said:

Hi,

 

Thanks for your help. Sorry i dont understand what you are suggesting i do.

 

I have 3 poeople in the AOS section:

1) me the petitioner (all documents accepted)

2) A FM (all documents accepted minus one which i have replaced)

3) My husband (the applicant).  <-- 4 documents are missing.   this documents are not applicable 

 

For my husband, in the AOS section, i cant upload any documents as they would not be applicable (e.g. Proof of US residency, proof of us citizenship etc).  We are applying for him to be the resident. 

 

I have the option to mark each document as "missing" with a comment e.g. "not applicable" which does allow me to submit successfully.

 

What document are you suggesting i upload in the AOS for my husband?

Okay, I understand that your husband is the Applicant.

I guess the confusion must have been as a result of his inclusion as FM under the AOS (when he is still the Principal Applicant).

Yes, go ahead and mark each document as "missing" (Not applicable).

A second option would probably have been to remove him from the AOS section. But I will suggest you try the former first.

I'll be glad to read that it works.

4 minutes ago, sanjaybb said:

I have just noticed something.  My husband has been added as a family member under that section. But all of the documents are showing as missing.  As my husband is the applicant, i do not need to submit any documents for him in the family section (according to the instructions) as all his documents have been submitted on the applicant side.   Do i put "document missing" for all the documents in his family member section (as this is not applicable)??? 

 

this is why it will not let me submit, it thinks there are missing documents even though those documents are not applicable.

Hi Sanjaybb,

The apparent glitch is with the website that has been programmed to deactivate the Submit Documents button once it identifies some incomplete document upload (regardless of the logic behind it).

I will suggest that you upload the same set of documents for the FM so that the website will consider all your expected document uploads as complete.

Do not worry, the Reviewing Officer will sort the documents accordingly once submitted.

Cheers!

On 5/6/2020 at 10:49 AM, sanjaybb said:

I submitted my documents on the NVC portal.   1 document was missing a signature (I-864A) and the reviewed sent a message to say this need to be amended.  I re-uploaded a correct version on the document as an attachment.  The document says it is uploaded but it does not let me "submit documents".  when i press the button nothing happens? The other documents have been "ACCEPTED"

 

On the summary page , for that family member is says "NOT SUBMITTED".

 

 

Does anyone know what i am doing wrong here?  

Check the Family Member's document page again, is there any document that is missing, or is not available? or has not been uploaded by that FM?

Usually, when documents are not uploaded in full, or where documents cannot be provided, the problem happens.

On 4/18/2020 at 5:05 PM, HalfWayMark said:

OP here, I don't have much to explain about resolving the issue. This was a year ago, and I'm going by memory...

 

The document I was trying to upload never got uploaded. I printed it and also printed an explanation of the problem with the website, in case during the interview they were needed. Just in case the CO asked. But he didn't, the document wasn't needed at all.

 

This was for my wife's IR-1 interview at the Manila, Philippines, embassy. If I remember, the document in question was an NBI (police clearance) with birth name -- so everybody's situation might be different, depending on the importance of the documents, the location of the interview, and the CO himself/herself.

 

I guess it's not surprising that this issue is still around, CEAC seems to be swamped and unresponsive to website issues. If all else fails, I'd recommend bringing a printed copy of the document to the interview and explain the problem.

Thank you for your response. It's helpful.

On 4/15/2020 at 7:54 AM, kivasbeauty said:

Try uploading each document again or refreshing the page. Be sure you used the right size and other followed other instructions. Best wishes and stay safe

Thanks kivasbeauty!

Eventually figured it out. Problem was with the section where we needed to upload the petitioner's tax document.

Regards!

On 4/28/2019 at 4:45 AM, HalfWayMark said:

I wonder if anyone else has had this problem recently.... I've uploaded an additional document requested by the embassy, in the "Affidavit of Support" section (the document status shows "Uploaded"). I've been trying to "submit" the document for days. But the "Submit Documents" button is dead -- it doesn't do anything.

 

I've tried many workarounds -- different browsers, deleting the uploaded document and re-uploading, ...  But to no effect. I've been logging in for several days to try all my workarounds again and again, but the button is definitely broken.

 

I notice that the same "Submit Documents" button in the "Applicant Information" section DOES work, since I uploaded and submitted an additional document there.

 

When logging in to CEAC, there's a message that the site will be down on Monday April 29, so possibly they'll fix this issue. I hope.... In the meantime, we'll just have to bring the additional AOS supporting document to the embassy interview in two weeks. Not enough time to email CEAC or call from overseas about this website problem.

 

 

 

I'm referring to the "Submit Documents" button, in the AOS section of our CEAC account:

Hi HalfWayMark ,

Can you please explain how you resolved this problem?

I'm facing a similar challenge.

Thanks.

Hi Rumz05,

How did you eventually get past the inactive Submit Documents button?

I am facing a similar problem. Thanks

1 minute ago, Enie said:

You can't submit until all the required documents are uploaded (AOS, tax transcripts/tax return, DS 260, civil documents etc.) 

Thank you for your quick response, Enie!

I have uploaded all the documents required (AOS, tax returns, all civil documents). It is only the Submit Document button that is not working.

And all documents show "Uploaded".

I am confused since the Submit Button is not active for me to use.