Super Uber

My fiance is an all-American lady, ancestors go back to the 1700s, and yet I'm on AP since November last year. We have 19+ age difference but we are a genuine couple. Approved after 4 months into AP. and now 5 additional months on AP for god knows what.

Extreme vetting is the more likely scheme but also limiting immigrant numbers is the main goal.

2 hours ago, db2016 said:

Thank you @Super Uber. My fiance sent everything today. He already got his Family and Individual registration last week, based on what ya'll said here and will take it with him to the interview. I only submitted my tax returns from 2016 along with my pay stubs for the past 6 pay cycles, a job letter and my W2 from last year. Our lawyer said they only needed this past year's tax return. 

 

do you know/remember how long it took them to confirm they received your packet and gave you the green light to schedule the interview?

See my other post, in the other thread.

1 hour ago, db2016 said:

@C.ezz you filed a few days before me, I am a 12/9 filer. We just sent our documents to the embassy today. How long after did they email you to pay for the visa and schedule your interview? I  didnt see your packet 3 dates on your timeline. Our NOA2 was only approved a few weeks ago on 8/4, so we waited a very long time. Scared we will have to wait even longer on AP, though  we have all of the docs and are case is pretty straightforward. 

The reason why I gave you the information before is because I assumed you already sent USCIS all taxes and all required forms. I'm also assuming you're a K1 Fiance Visa I-129F petitioner.

It's not clear to me why the embassy asked for another I-134.

However, in all cases you can do what I did: message the embassy and find out if there any other documents remaining required (they may say wait 2 weeks to review your documents, bla bla). And when you get the "everything is OK". That's when YOU schedule the appointment on ustraveldocs.com/eg.

FYI, I didn't wait for them to send me a packet or for them to tell me I can schedule my appointment. I just did.

After messaging them about basic interview documents that I should get (e.g.: medical exam), I scheduled my appointment right away.

21 minutes ago, db2016 said:

malish ya gam3a i have a few questions about sending the documents to the embassy.
if any of you can help me.

 

We got the email from the embassy to send the documents. My questions are:

 

1. the I-134, can it be a copy or does my fiance have to send the one I actually signed?

2. For the birth certificate and police record. Did you send the actual records or copies? Additionally did you get them both translated. We already translated the birth certificate for the original application to USCIS, do we need to do a new translation or can we send the original one?

3. Did you send anything for the medical or just brought it to the interview?

4. My fiance has never been married, but I am divorced, should he send my divorce docs from the US or no, that just applies to him?

Assuming you're the petitioner and he's the applicant:

1- I-134: You'll most likely need an original signature (he can sign it on your behalf, with your signature .. to minimize the time - as long as you allow it and you keep this to yourselves). I've seen others do it.

Attach to this all supporting documents: copy of the last 3 years tax returns (scan, email, print), or transcripts (print it from the IRS website if you want - requires registration and authentication). Easy ?

2-Original birth certificate (computerized version) and original police record - there's no real need to translate it (because they'll most likely return these documents to you or throw them away) .. to be sure you can email the embassy about this. Ask if translation is required. (They told me no before, and even returned the translations back to me at the interview, same thing was done for others).

If they have only the copy/translated version, they will surely require the original computerized version. Make sure you give it to them to avoid any possible delays because of this.

3-Medical is a sealed envelop. Keep it that way and take it with you to the interview - open it only when they ask you to. Leave the CD and the X-ray at home.

4-Assuming you're the U.S petitioner, he MUST include your divorce certificate copies for each previous marriage and bring the originals with to the interview).

Note: He should have a family registration and individual registration handy a week before the interview JUST IN CASE (but it's not required).

Don't send anything to the embassy unless they ask for it. Be sure to bring originals of everything you sent before to the USCIS at the interview.

Enjoy =)

8 hours ago, E.Amr said:

unfortunately no , we sent an inquiry last week , and we got the same lovely Copy/Paste answer 
 

I think they stopped sending me those haha.

@E.Amr They didn't respond to the withdrawal request, but they do respond to the normal status inquiries.

It's still pretty ridiculous .. any news on your end?

1 hour ago, db2016 said:

so even those who got approved went on AP? are there any users here that were approved and got their visa stamp or was everyone put on AP?

Not really.

Most of those who were approved at the interview, that I know of, got their visa within 2 weeks time.

However, most recent K1 visa cases are/were put on temporary AP (2~4 months case sitting on the shelf for further review), after which a decision is made.

And If you get approved while on AP, an additional AP (security checks or whatever) is added on top.

Such as in my case and @E.Amr's. And I don't know how long it'll last.

15 minutes ago, db2016 said:

Sorry to hear it led you to this path, please let us know if they respond or if anything changes with your case. Have your tried having a congressional official interject on your behalf? This happened to a few Syrian K1 visa applicants before the ban and they took legal action and some used their elected officials to inquire on cases. Are you going to apply for the marriage visa?

We've tried everything, you name it, we've tried it. Nothing works and most people tell you in the end to call/email the embassy and ask them.

There are no legal actions anyone can take, because it's a "privilege" not a "right". In other words, you cannot force their hands to do or tell you anything.

The ban is a different case, and most of those people had already either came to the U.S or had a visa to go there.

Marriage visa? I really really do not think so. I do not want to waste more money, time or effort on a route that I think is fruitless at this point. (this route requires longer face time; petitioner has to leave any rented house/job, but also provide a "proof of domicile", a co-sponsor, which means he/she will have to travel to the U.S to rent/buy a place; a lot of more money, effort and time that you can imagine)

You guys shouldn't look at what I did as a negative thing. I lose nothing in the end, in shaa Allah. But If I wait longer, I might lose a lot more than you can imagine.

Trust me when I say that after 9 months of waiting: all you'll ever seek is closure. That means a decision regardless of the outcome. That way you'd know what you should do next in life and move on.

If you can keep me in your dua'a, It'd be greatly appreciated it though.

Thanks everyone for your continuous support.

13 minutes ago, MaryLu19 said:

Yes it is a privilege. Is their country, not ours! Can you force them to issue a visa? No you can't! So they ARE doing us all a favor. I have a very good understanding of the words I use btw. No need to come after me, but honestly your attitude right now is not good, If you don't want to come for a better life, then why bother? 

MaryLu, my attitude is just fine. I didn't mean to push your buttons. but the facts are as is, and you just repeated what I said lol.

No, U.S doesn't have a "better life" in anyway than most countries, look it up.

Especially after trump: ask most Americans to see how many will tell you they've already planned to/thought of "jumping ship" and going to Canada or Europe lol.

Canada, and most of Nordic countries may have "better lives" standard - if that's how you want to measure it (by life style privileges).

Also, it depends on the type of visa you seek: some seek visas like DV, which is basically for those who seek the "better life" standard.

Others seek family-based, which is just to reunite them with their loved ones while keeping their job, medical care, estates, companies, etc.

Some people are married to Americans who don't want to leave the country because they have no other choice, or because they don't know any better.

But trust me, many Americans want to leave the U.S.

5 minutes ago, MaryLu19 said:

I am sorry, but USA is doing us all a favor to come to their country in order to have a better life, and this is not the right attitude. Moving to USA is a privilege, not a right. I understand  your frustration but confrontation is not the way to go when you pretty much are asking them for a favor. I hope it doesn't backfire, but in my opinion I think you really compromised your case.

They're not doing you or anyone any favors. And better life? in the u.s? you gotta be kidding. you must be living in la la land. You make it sound like we're beggars at the doors of the u.s.

Also, "privilege" is a per-law term, not a privilege in per-real life. Meaning, that you cannot legally force them to do anything, and they have the right to make all the decisions. So I think you misunderstand what privilege means.

I don't have an attitude, they made mistakes and I was just responding to their insults. So get your facts straight.

Also, confrontation is the best strategy, especially if you have nothing to lose. After long periods of waiting most of us would rather have a closure regardless of the outcome.

Update:

I sent an email a few days ago noting that I want the case withdrawn within a specific period of time, if there was no visa issued by then.

Background story:

First, they didn't bother to look at the first email and realize that I'm a male. And called me a "madam". So I responded back with an insult, noting the issue.

Second, they responded back with a very very lame excuse and a lie basically, saying they "thought" it was the petitioner emailing them from someone's email. Which is another kind of insult.

Finally, I insulted them back, again, in another email citing their lies. I also included an ultimatum denoting either an issue of a visa or withdrawal of the visa.

Guess what? I got no responses for neither (no visa, or withdrawal confirmation), and they probably ignored or deleted the email.

The ridiculousness and unprofessionalism in that embassy is completely unfathomable and overboard. Makes me wanna punch them in the face.

2 minutes ago, Yasser&Neveen said:

what do they say when you contact them?

Same typical thing: Your case is on AP bla bla bla.

1 minute ago, Yasser&Neveen said:

did you send them your passport? have you tried to contact them? something doesn't make sense. did  @E.Amr  get the visa?

Yes, yes, yes and no. We're still waiting.

1 minute ago, Yasser&Neveen said:

so if you guys got approved 4 moth ago that means they got back and reviewed your case so whats taken 5 months to issue the visa?

Your guess is as good as mine.

35 minutes ago, Yasser&Neveen said:

yeah I know and that's the frustrating part. do you know anyone from here that was approved within 4 months after was put on AP?

Yes, @E.Amr. Him and I got approved at the same time.

2 minutes ago, Yasser&Neveen said:

that's the thing, according to my fiance the CO didn't say anything, he gave her the passport back and  handed her a paper with the requested documents checked and that's it. please see below attachment. I don't think the reason of the AP is for security check, I don't have a criminal record here in the US and she doesn't have any problems in Egypt so I don't know if it's taken that long just to review the additional requested documents. 

AP is a low priority at embassy level (or any level really). You can expect them to look at your case after 2~4 months to either make a decision or to keep it in AP.

Male or female, that didn't used to be the case, it was random at first for males only. Today, expect it to happen to females too.

Like I said, K1 is now automatically redflagged and they decrease work load by creating a small backlog, by queuing cases for 2+ months time. Current cases take higher priority.

So being approved at the interview was the only guarantee not to go through all of this.

5 minutes ago, Yasser&Neveen said:

that is crazy I mean at what point you can do something to get any formation?. do you know why your case is under AP? for us the CO asked for Viber communications and family registration for my fiance which is weird for a female and they confirmed they received them on 6/12/17. 

There's nothing I can do about my case, I always email and I always get the same standard, copy/paste response.

I have red flags on the case and I'm also a male, so, go figure.

They didn't request any additional evidence. Except for an individual registration.

K1 cases now are red flagged automatically, and you have to prove that you aren't married.

7 minutes ago, Yasser&Neveen said:

so after 5 month they notified you that you are approved? did they have your passport or did you send it after you were approved?

After 4, I miss calculated. It's been 5 months since the alleged approval. They asked for new medical and passport. And I asked for the passport back after 2 months when I found no progress on the visa issuance. They'll have to call/email me to get it, or so they said.

What was told to you at the interview? Approved? wait a few months? what "exactly"?

Just now, Yasser&Neveen said:

oh okay. thank you.

 

how is your case going?

Over 9 months in total since interview. No updates for over 4 months straight, since alleged approval.

Just now, Yasser&Neveen said:

but our case is a K1 visa not DV.

Yes, that's why it's not relevant to your case. It's a standard note that appears to everyone but only applies to DV cases.

2 minutes ago, Yasser&Neveen said:

Hello,

 

do you guys have the same message below on your case status? please see the section where it states that the visa have to be issued before September 30th, does this means the AP have to be completed by then or is it just a standard message to all cases?

 

Thank you

Yasser

It also states that it's related to DV cases only. I don't think it has any relevance to other case types.

Hey guys,

I just wanted to let you know that today marks exactly 9 months for my case since last document submission date.

There has been no updates, no calls, no email backs (they ignored my emails several times).

So for those who are getting typical email answers, you should be happy, I guess? lol

3 hours ago, maryam78 said:

Nice topic. I think once people get approved and issued visa they wont come here to comment.  It would be nice to know though for the rest of us waiting for AP to get approved. My husband was issued AP two months ago pending approval. No updates yet.

I'd be nice if people update their time lines so that others can see and make accurate estimations.

20 minutes ago, Mohd Al Said said:

I dont think they will lie this time bro u so close soon we will talk about the ticket if they want to deny it they will do it from long time ago

We'll see in shaa Allah.

25 minutes ago, Mohd Al Said said:

Bro i think ur status change to niv in apr so 4 months till now then u'll do a new medical report and take it u so close trust me more than u think 

You mean a 3rd medical report? I don't think that's gonna happen. But if it did, it will be due within 20~25 days.

I don't want to spend any dime on anything again, especially that they might lie to us again.

2 minutes ago, Mohd Al Said said:

No bro dont say that you will take it just wait everythings look good in ur case 

Maybe you're right.

I recently started thinking: If everything is OK for my case and others like and @E.Amr, and we're supposed to be approved and there are a limited number of visas yearly, (usually the older the case the higher the priority to issue the visa, in a queue),

THEN wouldn't it make sense that they might be selling visas out and committing fraud?

This is merely a speculation but also a logical deduction. It's a scary thought.

What do you guys think about this? Can anyone prove/disprove this theory?