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On 1/24/2017 at 5:14 PM, Scandi said:

All my three i-797C notices (two accepted and one rejected) are starting with MSC. On the rejection notice it explains why it was rejected (because of wrong fee) and in the same sentence it says "please resubmit the application/petition package with the appropriate fees to the address listed at the bottom of this page". It's the same address that I sent the whole AOS package to, the Chicago lockbox. 

Yeah I caught that right before I resubmitted....

Got another I-797C REJECTION notice today...i'm fuming! It was literally the IDENTICAL rejection letter which included a reference to an incomplete application (the part we've all been talking about does not apply to me) and incorrect payment (which I provided the receipt for pending I-485 for that waives it)!! 

Called customer service again and all they can tell me is that it goes to lockbox first before it gets to an immigration representative for judication. Lockbox determines that everything was done correctly before it goes to judication so only they can answer my questions...####### does the rejection letter tell me to call USCIS customer service for then? I've emailed lockbox twice with no response by the way. So angry about all this. Bright side is my wife got her AOS interview/appointment scheduled for the end of March so theres no point in going through this frustration again, really. Just such a damn shame how bad all this was. 

On 1/23/2017 at 1:39 PM, Scandi said:

Sorry, I wrote "copy of i-485", but obviously I meant copy of the i-797C for the i-485. All these damn numbers.. 

lol, yeah I got it. Got the wifey to take her passport photos today and will be sending out for sure tomorrow.

With your resubmission of your I-765, what did your receipt number begin with? Did you send it to the same lock box? Just curious. Our rejection of I-131 receipt started with WAC so according to the website we have to send it to the lock box in Phoenix, AZ, despite USCIS customer service tracking our I-485 to Missouri and saying we needed to send it there. Again with the conflicting information, can't trust customer service. We are going with the explicit instructions provided online and sending to Phoenix. 

Thanks again to all who were following along and providing advice. Much appreciated. 

14 minutes ago, Scandi said:

That's not needed when you file for AOS at the same time (as AOS is reason enough to qualify). And when they resubmit they will add a copy of the i-485, which will be proof enough to qualify for AP.

Yeah, maybe i'll omit it this time around when i resubmit. 

5 minutes ago, LionessDeon said:

http://www.visajourney.com/content/examples/

 

DId you provide the I-131 part 7 supplement also?

Yeah. It was never listed as a reason for rejection so I don't think there was a problem with the way I submitted it. However, when I called the reps were very adamant about emphasizing there being difference between "rejected" and "denied" (when I called in I kept saying I got denied). So it sounds like they can definitely still deny me if they feel my reasoning does not align with how they define an urgent humanitarian purpose. 

2 minutes ago, Scandi said:

Basically, USCIS views the EAD and AP as something that goes along with the AOS, so when you file for AOS you don't have to explain your reasons to want the other two. Just show proof that you have a pending i-485.

got it, thanks! Just gotta make the wifey take new pics and I guess we're set, lol. 

4 minutes ago, Suss&Camm said:

On the form itself it says to explain how you qualify what circumstances warrant issuance of advanced parole and to include copies of documents, further to see instructions for this.

 

In the instructions it says:

 

"c. Advance Parole Document for individuals who are currently in the United States:
If you are in the United States, you must attach:
(1) A copy of any document issued to you by USCIS showing your present status, if any, in the United States; and

(2) An explanation or other evidence showing the circumstances that warrant issuance of an Advance Parole
Document; or

(3) If you are an applicant for adjustment of status, a copy of a USCIS receipt as evidence that you filed the
adjustment application;"

 

You are supplying (3)... 

yup, got it. Thank you! 

22 minutes ago, Scandi said:

No you don't have to give any reasons as to why you want the AP when you've arrived on a K-1 and file for AOS. You don't even have to put a date on the form, you write unknown unless you want to make up a date.

Ahhhh, I see where I might have misunderstood now. 

Looks like all I need as far as evidence is concerned is the receipt for pending I-485; that's relieving. Blue brackets in the image below only applies to item (5) then it seems? Which does not pertain to me? 

4 minutes ago, LionessDeon said:

http://www.visajourney.com/examples/INS-Form-I-131.pdf

 

did anyone review example forms?  

Yeah, I did. Followed it to the tee. Part 2 is left blank, just the same as I did and still got rejected. Pretty certain the person reviewing it missed this. 

Ok...So separate issue / question for those of you following; but still related: Evidence and reasoning. 

In 2014 when our friends applied for AP they had to list reason for request and it was as simple as "to visit family and friends". I've seen their application and it definitely has changed since then and gotten more strict. Since the update, as those of you with experience know, we have to have a qualified reason and list evidence and description of why we feel we qualify for AP. 

Our reasoning, under the definition in the application, is for humanitarian purposes. Or in other words, my wife's grandfather is ill and we want to visit him. Now, while he is not on his deathbed, he is definitely sick and his condition has worsened since she has moved. In the instructions it requests proof or evidence in the form of a letter describing his condition from the hospital. Also, given the average approval time for I-131, we would have to request that this be expedited since we would like to visit in March and then again in May. The expedite instructions say to "include a written explanation for the request to expedite with any supporting evidence AVAILABLE". 

Please give me your input because one description of evidence sounds absolute in that we need concrete evidence and the other is suggesting to provide evidence if available. I ask because my wife's parents are not technically savvy and it would be pretty difficult to go through the process of asking them to work with the hospital to obtain a letter about her grandfather's condition. Ideally I would like to submit with just a letter explaining the situation and hope to get approved with that. 

Thank you in advance to everyone for the help / input! 

Also, every time I call and ask for clarification, the reps are VERY robotic in their response to "follow whatever instructions" were provided to me in the rejection notice. Basically, they don't want to be the ones to give you wrong info. For example, I asked about resubmitting the rejected app or a new app b/c the forms had recently been updated: "you can resubmit following the instructions you received". Oh...ok...well how about photos? I submitted that with I-485 previously, Do I have to do that again?: "you can resubmit following the instructions you received". 

Efff you USCIS. 

4 minutes ago, Scandi said:

That's so screwy. When my i-765 was rejected they also sent me a rejection notice where it said to resubmit the application to the address of the bottom on that notice - it was the same address as I had used for the whole AOS. Chicago lockbox. Did you not get a rejection notice? I wouldn't trust what they tell you at the misinformation line.

The only thing the rejection letter says "you are welcome to resubmit...". Does not specify where. Which btw, I emailed the lockbox email provided a week ago and also have not gotten a response. smh. 

Thanks for all the info and suggestions, everyone. 

Looks like I'm basically going to have to fill it out again. Finally got in touch with a next tier customer service person (helpful but still rude and impatient, btw). Here's what I got: 

1) Re-do the form. Tracked the I-485 for me and said it's in Missouri (sent it to Dallas, though...hmmmmm???) office and I'll need to resubmit and send my application there. Uhhh, thanks? Not a single mention of that in the rejection letter. Again I'm left unsure of how to approach that now. In any case, I have a copy of the I-485 receipt I'll be attaching to the application. I imagine with that it wouldn't necessarily matter if I sent it to Dallas (the office per original instructions on USCIS website) or Missouri, I think the rep just suggested I send it there since that's where my application is actually physically located and  I wanted to make sure I was not rejected again due to not including payment. She suggested to put a note to "file with I-485 application and receipt attached". 

2) So no rep could really explain why I was rejected due to lack of information in part 2, which I think we've all concluded does not pertain to me. WE ARE ALL NOT CRAZY...pretty sure we all got it right here in terms of understanding the instructions, that section definitely did not apply to me. Customer service solution: Put a sticky note on it, "same as above" or "does not apply". She was implying that putting a note at least shows the reviewer where they can find the information, despite it not applying to me? Errr...ok.  I figure there's no point fighting it and trying to understand it. Just gonna re-do the app with post-it note explanations and hope for the best, lol. 

15 minutes ago, Suss&Camm said:

No. ..no...and no.... 

The whole point of filling out that portion is that it's the info of another person than the filer that is entered in part 1 (the person for whom the OP would be filing would be overseas..)

 

OP, you have done it correctly, the same way I did mine and according to instructions. You are not crazy!

Like Scandi said, they refused her i-765 just last week due to a mistake... I'm just sorry they let the "intern" look through your applications unsupervised 

Fill it up like it's supposed to be and write a note explaining. Sucks that it's taking time from you and hopefully your wife can get it in time for travel... 

THANK YOU!!!

Don't even get me started with my poor experience with USCIS, lol! The customer service automated line asked for my 10-digit receipt number...entered all 10-digits, "not the right amount of digits, goodbye"...

Ok, I maybe fat fingered it...called again, input it one-by-one, used a single finger, and went as slow as a 2-year old to make sure..."not the right amount of digits, goodbye"...blood was boiling! Then you finally get to someone by lying to the damn machine and that person is not in the right "tier" to assist you. 

2 hours ago, Scandi said:

It's hard to know with USCIS, they reject applications to left and right for no reason but made up ones. Happened to me too, they accepted my i-485 and i-131 and rejected my i-765 because of not sending the correct fee, wth? If the fee was wrong (which it wasn't) then why would they accept the other two forms? They're just making mistake after mistake, so it's not always the applicant's fault.

Ya know what's funny? They actually listed lack of payment or incorrect payment as a reason as well, when in fact when you file concurrently with I-485 the fee is waived! I just chose not to bore you all with the complaints, lol. The solution there is to resubmit with the I-485 confirmation, btw. 

1 hour ago, Damara said:

Yeah you are misinterpreting the instructions.

Theres a difference between saying "if you checked box 1f provide the info about the person" and the phrasing Physical Address (If you checked 1f) Its all about the parenthesis placement.

You are suppose to fill out ALL fields in the form unless its N/A. So you do question 1- You check off one box- which you did correctly. Then you move on to #2. It states IF you checked off 1f use the persons info- not yours for the following question 2... It says nothing about this is only for people for checked off 1f. So everyone fills it out- you would enter YOUR info as the person requesting it UNLESS you checked off 1f- because IF you did then you use their info.Does that make more sense?





 

 also though, I just remembered I followed your logic at first but remembered why I ended up questioning it and wasn't entirely convinced...

When you download the application and fill out out digitally and are typing all the information in, when you've selected the box that i did (1.d.), it grays our the entire section under Part 2 so you can't fill it out anyway even if you wanted to. 

1 hour ago, Scandi said:

I think you did the right thing, OP. You already provided address and everything else in part 1. Part 2 seems to be for those who apply for someone else, outside the US.

I agree, but I have no means of confirming because USCIS customer service was useless. I'll likely end up resubmitting and filling this portion out anyway. I am just overthinking it and wonder if they'll come back and say...."well hey, why are you filling this portion out when your wife is WITHIN the US". Just hate the uncertainty and trying to avoid wasting time. My wife is hoping to travel in March and/or May. 

1 hour ago, Damara said:

Yeah you are misinterpreting the instructions.

Theres a difference between saying "if you checked box 1f provide the info about the person" and the phrasing Physical Address (If you checked 1f) Its all about the parenthesis placement.

You are suppose to fill out ALL fields in the form unless its N/A. So you do question 1- You check off one box- which you did correctly. Then you move on to #2. It states IF you checked off 1f use the persons info- not yours for the following question 2... It says nothing about this is only for people for checked off 1f. So everyone fills it out- you would enter YOUR info as the person requesting it UNLESS you checked off 1f- because IF you did then you use their info.Does that make more sense?




Thanks for the feedback. When I looked back I thought to myself...this has to be it, I must have to fill this out. And I thought I agreed with your explanation, but what about parts 2.h. through 2.p.? That part in particular wouldn't make sense with that logic then, or at least that's the part that made me question the logic. Because from that point within the parenthesis it only states "if you checked box 1.f.".

 

Plus, box 1.d. indicates that the application is for ME, and all my information is listed in Part 1 just above. Listing it again here in Part 2, just seemed redundant. So I'm not entirely sure and unfortunately USCIS customer service wasn't much help. I'll probably end up filing it out anyway and sending it back because clearly whether I agree with the logic or not, leaving it blank got me rejected. Thanks for your input! 
 

Hi Everyone, 

I'll try to keep this quick and to the point...the subject line should kinda let you know what I'm dealing with, right? 

Their Reason: Incomplete Application

- Part 2 Family Name

- Part 2 Address

If any of you are familiar with the application, in Part 2: Section 1, my wife selected "1.d." indicating that she is applying for an advanced parole travel document for HERSELF and that she is within the United States. Shortly after that you get to Part 2: Section 2 that basically says "if you checked 1.f. then fill out 2.a. through 2.p." (i paraphrased it)...

In fact, if you fill it out the application digitally and select 1.d., section 2 gets grayed out completely because it clearly does not apply to you and does not allow you to type anything in. 

I called USCIS customer service and they said to put "N/A" because you're not allowed to leave anything blank. However, I had other parts that were left blank and they never cited those as reasons for rejection. I call again for more clarification and another rep tells me that no USCIS employee is authorized or allowed to give information on how to properly fill out the form; only immigration lawyers or something like that. So now what? I really feel confident that I'm not misunderstanding the instructions here and getting an immigration lawyer is not necessary, but: 

1) The information they claim is "missing", by my understanding of the instructions, is meant for someone OUTSIDE of the United States and applying for travel document; which IS NOT the case with my wife. But leaving it blank got me a rejection letter...what now? 

2) I can resubmit again leaving it blank and hope they made a mistake but that just seems redundant and going to waste weeks awaiting for an approval that will likely not happen based on our first attempt...what now? 

Here's a link to the application if you want to see what I'm talking about. Also, I attached a copy of the actual application that got rejected and sent back to me. Please....tell me if I'm crazy and just way off base here...

https://www.uscis.gov/i-131

Hi,

My wife (formerly fiance...successful K-1 fiance, yay us!) has an appointment tomorrow to visit the USCIS office to submit her documents for AOS along with EAD and request for advanced parole.

My question is, we have a wedding in cancun we want to attend in february, another in in vancouver in march...under the latest I-131 forms and instructions (expires November 2016 but still valid until they update onsite), it says that vacation is not a valid reason and we would not qualify to submit a I-131. However, it only states that if we fall under filing for a DACA, but we are filing a non-DACA.

We have the form filled out and I am prepared to submit an additional sheet of information detailing the upcoming trips, but am I wasting my time here? Our friends went through this process in 2014 and the process has changed because their forms did not require a supplemental explanation sheet for their itineraries. Please help!