shynepapin

For me since the goal wasn't the citizenship, but an opportunity to play a part in a functioning society, ones that approves and compensate hard work and offers opportunity for such as well. Now, I'm stuck in a loop, maybe get the citizenship and relocate or just continue to push through. I know not so many have the opportunity to, but with opportunity to work from any where in the world now being part of the new norm, I'm considering and looking for options. I've filled out my N400 for 5 months or days less but yet to submit.

10 hours ago, Savva said:

Hey, any news?

I hope this thread helps encourage others in the future.

I got mine approved in February, after reaching out again for a i-551 stamp in less than 48 hours without an interview. 

It was a two year process. Maybe that's why I didn't get an interview, also waited till the new government had full control, because I think there are a lot of the 74 million people who believe and demand the white supremacy idiosyncrasies.

Some of them even go as far as adjudicating cases with additional rules that fulfill their own ambition for power. 

There is no reason whatsoever that anyone should be asked to provide a direct letter from an employer to get an appointment for the I-551 stamp scheduled or have I-751 application with divorce waiver rejected because they failed to provide a copy of spouse passport or birth certificate and every other information that makes the application one based on spouse and 3 year rule when it was clearly a 5 year rule.

I know this for certain because the rejected application was a duplicate of the application that was accepted and approved, which I sent to a wrong address (uscis office). 

A lot of strategies were employed by indidividuals in these departments during the last government, one that furthers the abuse of rights and racial discrimination of respectful and diligent residents and some citizens.

The last 4 years has shown how much the United States has moved away from being united, and from being God's own country for anyone and everyone who dare to dream and aspire to achieve towards one that propagate the idea that corruption, human rights abuse and suppression is fine as long as they are perpetuated by the rich and powerful or individuals under the immunity of the law.

The extent of its corruption and the downward spiral to embracing inhumane values but fostering the ideas of plutocrasy and oligarchy is overwhelming.

13 hours ago, longuscisprocess said:

Hello everyone, I have a good news to share. I had interview yesterday and it has been approved. The interview made me worried because the officer told me someone call ICE over me back in 2017 to let them know that I was living separately from my husband. I did not lie and I told all the truth, all the dates and everything. The officer told me she was worried if I would lie her something and that would create more research for her, but I told all truth about our separation and divorce process. After 3 hours from the interview my status changed to card is being produced. I want to thank everyone here who helped me through this tremendous stressfull process, and also wish everyone best wishes. Truth is everything they want, and they know everything about us so be prepared for the interview and go get that god damn greencard.

Congrats, very well deserved.

40 minutes ago, longuscisprocess said:

@shynepapin any updates on your case yet? My stamp expires this month, I dont know if I want to get stamp or wait for their decision.

There's no update, still untouched and couldn't get stamp unless I get a letter from a manager stating I needed a stamp. 

I'm waiting for the new government to be sworn-in in about 35 days. Also, would be putting together my N-400 and sending that in too in January.

On 7/24/2020 at 3:45 PM, longuscisprocess said:

I am like you, concerned but not too worried. My service center is SRC and it looked like they were working rapidly fast few weeks ago, and randomly approving cases from 2019 to few early 2020s. My 500 group, I have like 5-6 of them left and I am July 2019 filer. Hope you hear something soon.

I am SRC too, I don't think they slowed down alone but a USCIS slow down generally. I surely hope they get to this cases soon as my case was received April 5th, 2019, and I still have the same status of fingerprint since November, my stamp is also about to expire, don't know how that is going to go if there's need to get a new one. I'm hoping it does get approved before that.

1 hour ago, longuscisprocess said:

@shynepapin Do you have any updates regarding your case? Yours and my cases are similar, just wondering if you received anything, mine still says fingerprint review completed November 2019.

All I got is the same thing since November 2019 as well and all the i751 cases in my 500 group have been approved, a few transferred on to a new office due to jurisdiction, think that because they filled N400. Very few got RFE and responded and moved on over time. My case was received first week of April, 2019, been getting a little worried but not trying to think deeply into it because I got nothing to fear, doubt and worry about. No fraud was involved, moved 1200miles across different states in the U.S, lived happily together a d co-mingled all our lives for 6 years, with half in two states.

So just like you, I have some concerns, but considering what the world is dealing with and trump using DHS to enforce he's wartime president agenda in U.S states, and also budgets concerns. With that it is out of my control.

17 minutes ago, Johnq762 said:

Hey I am in same condition, I your help please 

I got your message and I willing to help by sharing my ideas, I'm also sure so many here in VisaJourney will be able to help you too. So, can you post details as to what is happening and is what current stage is your process in. Also, please share some details about the withdrawal situation, without knowing that no one can really direct you.

Fyi, I'm still in my process, waiting for an interview invitation letter or just an approval without an interview, it's all God's will that happens.

6 minutes ago, milimelo said:

Unclear why you’re using green card for employment? Unrestricted ssn and dl is all that’s needed - employers can’t tell you what type of evidence to provide. 

Cos my SSN has the Valid for Work Only-With DHS Authorization printed on it. Hence it prompts the next inquiry of bringing in a green card, which I do take in with all of the extension since the date printed on there is in the past.

3 hours ago, longuscisprocess said:

I found your thread after searching hundreds of them if there is any case that would look like mine. My ex wrote a letter to USCIS too and withdrew joint i751. I prepared new divorced based with divorce decree and filed a new one. I filed second i751 with waiver on july 2019, got another extension letter, fingerprints was waived and SRC is my service center now, previous one was WAC (CALI). Previous case status shows, Withdrawal acknowledgement sent and got the same mail from USCIS that you have posted in here.

 

Since, yours is way ahead mine, could you tell if your case is still pending or any update on your case? 

I can tell you that yes it is still pending and it has been an ordeal. On Monday, I received a call from USCIS because I had been going back and forth with them for a while about an extension. Because I never got a new one, I received the old one that extend the green card for 18months from the original expiry date. The case i751 with waiver wasn't accepted easily, it was sent back and the receipt stated application was incomplete, that the spouse information needed to be provided on the application. I had a letter accompany the application and specify on the form that it was a waiver, I even had the withdrawal receipt in there too. I don't know how else to have filed it, but I guess the official wanted a joint filing or only knew about that, which I seriously doubt. It might as well be some naive official or one who doesn't know USCIS regulation on filing the i751 with a waiver. 

Anyway, I had done something different as it was constantly pounding my head at that time, I had made a duplicate of the application and sent it to the original location WAC(Cali) as well, the same exact application and all of the information and details, letter explaining the whole situation and that we hadn't even filed a divorce yet, receipt of the previous case and withdrawal notification, same exact application that was rejected, they accepted it despite it was not the location I should have sent it, forwarded it to SRC, check cashed. 

So, I guess that covers it for a back story on the situation of things. The constantly changing immigration policies now gives some officials justifiable reasons to make even more decision at their own discretion more than following procedure. I have been out of a job for more than 30days now and no employer wants to take me on due to the 3 months i-551 stamp that I was given some months ago because it would elapse soon. Hopefully, I get a one year this time and I can get back to the workforce. Divorce was finalized more than a month ago, 2 weeks later I sent a copy of the decree to USCIS, up until the time of writing this, I have not gotten any sort of acknowledgement.

I am of the impression that the 5 years you have to wait includes your conditional green card period. Meaning, the count should begin from the day your 2 years GC was issued and any extension period.

Good news all around. Good to see that November is moving along.

1 hour ago, Ash.1101 said:

Honestly she learned more than most USC spouses trying to get rid of their GC holder spouses. Most of them don't rescind their support for the I-751 because they don't know they can.

I would still refile, with a copy of that letter, and a divorce waiver, all of your prior proof and any extra proof that you may have made. The ROC won't be completed without the divorce decree, but depending on what state your in that can take months to longer, so you need to get the ball rolling -NOW-.

I know for certain she wanted to withdraw i-864 and all of her involvement in this because I saw the letter but since that couldn't be achieve USCIS responded to her asking for information about the Alein Spouse, she provided my A number and the latest filing case number, which was that of the i-751 and withdraw it. From her understanding withdrawing the financial obligation couldn't be achieved without what they did. Unknown to her is if ever an NTA resolves from this and deportation happens, all of my debts becomes hers(car note, credit cards, etc). She already in a tight position, asking to live together till June when my extension expires because the bills will drown her, not knowing that there isn't an extension anymore since the basis of the extension itself doesn't exist anymore. Enough of her....

Anyway, I'm working on a new i-751 to avoid NTA and also get a new extension letter, but there seems to be a question that's stalling me when filling the form, question 10. I need to select the Divorce option even though we are not yet divorced but I'm currently working on that form too right at the moment. Then question 21, I chose the No option as there's no marriage other than the one that has crumbled and lead to all of this hassle.

Hopefully someone gets to response, trying to get this done and sent off today.

12 hours ago, mindthegap said:

The order shouldn't matter.

 

Yep, it does that. Many here have been there, myself included, to a ridiculous extent.

Just be assured that you ARE a permanent resident, and you remain one, with rights. An angry/bitter/whatever US citizen spouse cannot just send someone back like an unwanted amazon package.

 

She probably found this thread with her googling 😐 🤭 (hi if you are reading 👋 )

 

She probably doesn't think you will do it yourself..

 

 

Well, I have been through this (and still am..)

I received a denial on grounds related to your letter after joint filing....so refiled with the divorce waiver box ticked, enclosed a copy of divorce decree (even though they already had it) and put some brief pieces of additional evidence in that hadn't previously been submitted, but I put in my brief cover letter, that all prior evidence from the previous filings was to be used with this filing, as is standard procedure in USCIS policy with multiple or subsequent I-751 adjudication.

 

Btw, what was the date on your letter? My understanding is that you have a certain period of time in which if you refile, it avoids it getting sent to the dept that then processes and subsequently issues an NTA, hence why I had my fresh one back with them in just a couple of days.

Note that even with an NTA or even when in court, you can still file a waiver 751 at any time, but you still have the underlying NTA or court proceedings to deal with, so it is just an extra layer of hassle that should be avoided if at all possible.

 

Could you post up the entire letter you received? (with private details redacted of course).

 

 

Here's the entire letter. I hope this helps other people, having a U.S spouse who is never interested or learning about immigration processes, the details and possible results, other than window shopping for ideas on Google and friends who possibly only have the fainted of clues or get their information from Google as well.

6 minutes ago, mindthegap said:

The order shouldn't matter.

 

Yep, it does that. Many here have been there, myself included, to a ridiculous extent.

Just be assured that you ARE a permanent resident, and you remain one, with rights. An angry/bitter/whatever US citizen spouse cannot just send someone back like an unwanted amazon package.

 

She probably found this thread with her googling 😐 🤭 (hi if you are reading 👋 )

 

She probably doesn't think you will do it yourself..

 

 

Well, I have been through this (and still am..)

I received a denial on grounds related to your letter after joint filing....so refiled with the divorce waiver box ticked, enclosed a copy of divorce decree (even though they already had it) and put some brief pieces of additional evidence in that hadn't previously been submitted, but I put in my brief cover letter, that all prior evidence from the previous filings was to be used with this filing, as is standard procedure in USCIS policy with multiple or subsequent I-751 adjudication.

 

Btw, what was the date on your letter? My understanding is that you have a certain period of time in which if you refile, it avoids it getting sent to the dept that then processes and subsequently issues an NTA, hence why I had my fresh one back with them in just a couple of days.

Note that even with an NTA or even when in court, you can still file a waiver 751 at any time, but you still have the underlying NTA or court proceedings to deal with, so it is just an extra layer of hassle that should be avoided if at all possible.

 

Could you post up the entire letter you received? (with private details redacted of course).

 

 

That is the entire letter leaving out the address box that had my personal details. But as for the date, I can't remember and I'm not at home right now to go look at the letter, but I received the letter in the mailbox on Friday, 03-01-19. 

What is the period of time that you are aware of, now this puts the works in my spanner, hope I said that right. 

11 minutes ago, mindthegap said:

 

 

Your original post said she wanted to withdraw the I-864 - which as we all pointed out, she can't do. Unfortunately, what she has done is withdraw her joint-ness from the jointly filed I-751, which she can do. She also is probably under the mistaken belief that she is now released from the I-864, which is not the case.

 

This is similar enough to my past circumstances to recommend what you should do. 

 

File a new I-751 with a divorce waiver immediately. Like, get it sent by fedex tomorrow morning.

By doing that, you will get a new receipt number, and new extension letter, and a new biometrics appointment. You are then free to travel, have proof of status, get a stamp etc.

All previous evidence sent will still be in your file, so will be referenced with the new one, so you do not need to include all the evidence again. Just get it in ASAP, and if you haven't filed for divorce, then do so immediately, as it cannot be approved without that and sooner or later they will RFE you for a final divorce decree.

 

If you DON'T file a new 751 pretty quickly, you will get an NTA at some point - this may be quickly or may take years, but it will happen. By filing a new 751 quick enough now, you will avoid this happening. Note that even if you do get an NTA, you can still file a 751 at a later date (at any point really) but by filing it up front you are avoiding extra unnecessary steps and hassle.

 

It is permitted - as it is a joint filing, as I know only too well.

There lie the dangers of keeping an un co-operative or malicious spouse on a joint 751 petition instead of switching to a divorce waiver.

 

Not necessary with a solo filing.

First and foremost, I will like to thank you so much for your time and also taking my case seriously. I know that is what VJ is for but your timely responses have been more than encouraging and gives me hope.

I'm planning on visiting the court tomorrow to have the divorce filing initiated and see if they can give me a proof or receipt.

Also, I know I do have to submit a new i-751 petition as it's deemed necessary, but like you said I should try and send it ASAP. 

Question is should I do that even before I get the time to visit the courthouse? 

I'm almost at a point where this is crushing me and my hopes in life, cost me half a point at work and a verbal warning because the spouse had to get into it with me at home just because I asked for the copies of correspondence she had with USCIS.

Why, because I asked her why she withdraw the case rather than her withdrawing herself, co-sponsorship based on i-864, like she told me. Her response was that she followed what she was told and found on the internet.

She's asking for funds to file divorce, but I know for me I'm going to do that without her funding half of it or anything like it has been throughout the immigration process. 

I want to avoid an NTA, so I know I have to file immediately but do I include evidences or just submit the application form, attach a copy of the case withdrawal notice for the previous application. What do I include, don't know anyone who has gone through this as they can guide me, hence why for everything thing I have always turned to VJ and VJers for help.

Hey guys, Just an update, I recently got this and from what it says they did throw out my petition to remove conditions, because she is the petitioner and from the looks of that my extension letter based off of this case hereby becomes invalid and right I don't know if I need tonreach out to them to switch to a single petition to remove conditions based of pending divorce or file a different application.

26 minutes ago, Nyxie_us said:

It will be 2 and half years away for me to be eligible to apply for my citizenship since I was a divorce filing case with a waiver. Natural I don’t want to keep my current last name for that long period of time you know. It’s pretty complicated 

As long as you've got the divorce decree, not sure if it starts at the secretary of state office or SSA office but yeah, it's normal.

58 minutes ago, Nyxie_us said:

Does anyone know if it’s okay to change my last name after the approval of i-751 and before applying for naturalization? All I know is that I need to submit an I-90 form to renew my current green card. The thing is I just received it and not sure if submitting the form would cause any problems for my status or my future citizenship application. Please advise

You can change your name during the Naturalization process. 

8 minutes ago, mushroomspore said:

USCIS doesn't care who did what during the divorce. They only care you provide proof it is final and can honestly answer questions about the divorce if asked. And what "form" are you referring to when you say your ex "has the form and she hasn't filed it"? If you are talking about her letter, then that's not an official form and she will hear nothing because her letter does nothing.

I'm talking about the divorce petition packet.

1 hour ago, mindthegap said:

   Not possible.

 

 

While ultimately true, she can delay it and make it much more difficult than it needs to be.....I have the denial to prove that although rare, it can and does happen.

1 hour ago, geowrian said:

She can't withdraw the I-864 anymore.

 

If things get nasty in the divorce process, it might not be a bad idea to bring up the I-864 with a divorce attorney regarding division of assets. 😆

1 hour ago, H-M said:

Your wife cannot just withdraw from her I-864 obligations simply by sending a letter. Since you have already adjusted to a permanent resident (GC) status, there is not much she can do. As per I-864 instructions, her obligations would continue until the following conditions are met:

 

Upon receipt of the final divorce decree or annulment within the specified time period, we will amend the petition, to indicate that eligibility has been established for a waiver of the joint filing requirement based on the termination of the marriage.

 

Hope this helps & good luck!

2 hours ago, mushroomspore said:

This is the bad thing about taking legal advice from "friends". It can be so inaccurate. Your ex cannot withdraw the I-864 at this point. Carry on with RoC and send in a copy of the divorce decree once you get it.

2 hours ago, aaron2020 said:

Your wife can not withdraw the I-864.  That shipped passed once you got your green card.

 

I definitely know what taking advice from friends do, as sometimes while they come from a perspective of having your back, they are ultimately wrong because their experiences and personal thought processes and wishes is almost always projected in their advises, I have a psychology educational and career background, that's why I say this.

She's surrounding by friends and family whose experiences of marriage is non-existence, some of them have never been married, or been through shitty and abusive and ultimately relationship or divorced in the shortest amount of time. Longest one is in a divorce right now and cannot seem to be reliable in terms of advise because she's having to deal with being emotional stress and heart-broken. And most of which know the experiences and challenges faced in transnational relationship and marriage, either cultural and personally.

I'm not saying this about her friends to judge them or disrespect and disregard them, but the fact still is that with every union there comes its own challenges and there seems to be more when it has to do with two people with two different values in life, cultural understanding and beliefs working tirelessly to make it own.

Anyway, the major dilemma is like I said I know she has the form and she hasn't filed it, I know she's probably hoping to hear from USCIS soon about her letter and I know we still love ourselves so much. But, I don't know if to force her to file the divorce, I don't want to petition the divorce because if I say I love her and I really do, I shouldn't be the petitioner is what USCIS might hold against me as there is any abuse whatsoever.   

Hi VJers,

I know my situation can not be the first, but since some of the similar situation dates back to 2012, 2013, I thought it would be best to ask for fresh ideas and suggestions based on today's USCIS scenario. I've been a member for a long time and avid user of VJ, but mostly on lurking and contributing every now and again, when certain situations I've actually been through myself arises.

Right now, I am stuck as to not knowing the way forward, I have ideas which includes filing the N400 but that might be a risk. I've been married since Jan, 2015, met in 2014, came to the U.S with a Student Visa and while I'm sure me and wife still loves each other, but she says she's just not in-love with me anymore and getting a divorce. Like any marriage, I know the sea is not always smooth sailing, there will be tough times but it seems I just can not survive the rough tide.

I filed for ROC in November, 2017 and NOA1 is 11/22/17, Biometrics 12/21/2017. Last week, my wife sent I-864 withdrawal letter because after talking to a few friends who had been or are in similar situation. The next day 01/18/19, I received a notification that my case has been transferred to another jurisdiction, found out it's to Nebraska, but, I'm in Texas. 

We still live together, separate rooms and the final separation date might be in July, My 18 months extension letter expires July, 14 as well. I know that she would have the divorce forms, either signed and ready as my gut tells me.

So my question here is simple, what can I do in terms of my pending I-751, don't want it denied based on her letter of withdrawal and if an interview is scheduled, without a divorce decree yet, what are my options?

4 minutes ago, sleeplessinsea said:

with the WAC. So you go 9221805 and so on

Thanks, says Lincoln, Nebraska. Weird cos I'm in TX, but really not looking for an approval now cos of the I-864 withdrawal that they might have received or would receive Monday.

Just now, sleeplessinsea said:

Indeed I got the second notification today, and I dialed 800-375-5283 and it told me that the case was transferred to Nebraska. 

How did you provide your case number, with the WAC or just the numbers. Thanks.

7 hours ago, mister-love said:

call the automated system and you will know where your case was transferred. 

you might get another notification ( its gonna be the same) within  2 or 3 days. 

I got the same message yesterday and again today. Also, Case tracker App notified me, but was thinking it was because wife sent I-864 withdrawal and discussing separation and divorce soonest. 

Can you please provide the number to the automated system and to check the transfer details.

Nothing on interview for me yet, sorry guys no update on my end but I something would come up soon. Good luck to those who have interviews and those who are waiting like. Also to those who need good news after interviews it will surely come. Stay strong people

shynepapin, congrats on getting your ssn card!

how was the test? what did you use to prepare for it? only "what every driver needs to know"? or did you do the tests online as well?

I'm going tomorrow

Sorry Allyalexandra, I didn't get an email notification about your post and I usually do, so this might be late. FYI, I never prepared for the test, did pass though but would have to wait 30 days as my previous DL scan was not accepted as a proof, they said they need something physical no copies whatsoever.

I'll advice reading the what every driver should know for preparations. I took the trst same day I got the ssn at anout 4:20pm.