sevendelta

Hi everyone! I got an interview on July 18. The officer was nice and approved my pending I-751 and my N-400. My oath day is September 20

Sasifz, they ask about proof for a marriage:

Children:

- copies of the civility registered birth certificates for our children born 

- adoption decrees of children

- court guardianship records of stepchildren

- school and medical records listing the stepparents as a contact guardian

Evidence of living together:

- Leases in both names

- Deeds and mortgages in both names

- Copies of your and spouse driver licenses

Evidence of combined financial resources:

- Checking, saving accounts with transactions pages

- Property, life or health insurances

- Federal, state tax returns (with attachments such as W-2)

- Utility bills

-Loan or credit statements

 

Affidavits from 3rd parties who have knowledge of the bona fides of your relationships.

 

Hi everyone!

Submitted my N-400 application on Feb 23th with I-751 pending since September 2017. Actually, we got an RFE for I-751 till 14 of March. So I hope they will combine my cases and maybe my estimated time (March 2020) will be earlier. Good luck to everyone!

Yes, you are absolutly right. I still remind you that the divorce certificate shoud be official for immigration purpose, therefor it should have an apostile from russian ministry (I don't remeber which one). I think it would be the only reason to get more information before you will be approved.

That's a great plan! I still think you will need to file a divorce certificate with an APOSTILE.  So don't panic when you will have a letter saying that they need an official divorce certificate. At least I did it this way.

Good luck! I hope they will process you together soon.

 

We do plan to return too

http://kommentarii.org/kom_semei_kodeks/page32.html

 

Read this. Give it to your husband to read. It comments about the law. His divorce is legal from the court day.

When they will approve or ask you send more documents.

 

Do not panic!

7 minutes ago, CM&KV said:

https://www.uscis.gov/policymanual/HTML/PolicyManual-Volume12-PartG-Chapter2.html

 

Go to the part about divorces.

Okay

 

Look. you really will know the answer very soon when you will apply for your husband green card. You will add his divorce certificate with Apostile and translation. They will accept it on not. I am pretty sure they will accept it. Because " Брак, расторгаемый в органах записи актов гражданского состояния, прекращается со дня государственной регистрации расторжения брака в книге регистрации актов гражданского состояния, а при расторжении брака в суде - со дня вступления решения суда в законную силу. "  So the marriage was terminated in a court, so the marriage is terminated on June 20.

 

This " Супруги не вправе вступить в новый брак до получения свидетельства о расторжении брака в органе записи актов гражданского состояния по месту жительства любого из них или по месту государственной регистрации заключения брака. " doesn't mean that the divorce is not final. It is mean that you need to obtain divorce certificate before next marriage. But the divorce date is June 20. Some people do not obtain this certificates for years. But they are final divorced.  

So you filed your immigration papers, right?

look above, please

Do you worry about this "" Супруги не вправе вступить в новый брак до получения свидетельства о расторжении брака в органе записи актов гражданского состояния по месту жительства любого из них или по месту государственной регистрации заключения брака. " ?

 

So you say that he got his divorce certificate later than your marriage date. Correct?

Okay then

For Russia, your marriage is not legal.

For the USA it is legal.

So if you plan to live here, in the USA it will not matter. It will matter just only when he will like to make this marriage legal in Russia.

In this case, I will tell my story. I got married here. I have a new last name. But for my country, I left 3 years ago and I didn't come back. Eventually I will need to go back and do all my business stuff there. I will make my marriage legal. But I changed the last name. Your husband didn't change his name. Your marriage doesn't affect him in Russia. So just think about it. For the USA it is legal.

2 minutes ago, CM&KV said:

In my state you dont have to show the divorce papers, they claim we have to make sure we are able to marry.

Okay then. So everything is fine then. The divorce is legal.

The marriage is legal. So, please, deep breath! Good luck! If you still will have any questions I will be happy to answer you!

1 minute ago, CM&KV said:

They filed on May 17 2017, judge ruled on June 20th 2017.  We got married on Oct 23rd 2017.

That's great! You don't need to worry about any other dates on the divorce certificate.

 

Next - does it have an Apostile and translation? Did your husband show it to obtain a marriage certificate?

" when the marriage dissolved(a month he arrived on a business trip, before we gotten married). "

 

1. Don't panic

2. I am in a 2nd marriage here after a divorce in Belarus (same laws as in Russia). So I need you to look at the divorce paper. The main thing is the date of court. He could take this document whenever he wants. 

3. Do you have an Apostile (from Russia) and translation of Divorce certificate?

 

 

May I know the divorce date and your marriage date?  If it is more than 1 month apart I believe you are good.

 

Maryna

You are right Belarus doesn't recognize dual citizenship. She need to do renunciation of Belarus citizenship.

We like the CR-1 option.... because of not having to file the AOS.

Why do you think it will be easy? It takes more time to get CR-1 than to get K-1. It's easy to marry here, in USA. I didn't do any apostille in Belarus. I didn't do any notary approval too.

Your fiancee will need to translate her documents anyway. But If you will marry in Belarus you can plus expences: your documents and translation every document, visa 160$ + her invitation you to the country + tickets to Belarus and back, money for ceremony (how many people do you want there? do you want a big party or simple? wedding dress is more expensive in Belarus! and the party will cost some money).

If you have any question, you can write to me in personal message. I'm in USA now and I can explain the process very easy to you or your fiancee

Have a good day!

Maryna

Some good news. Maryna has completed her interview at the USC in Warsaw, and the K1 & K2 visas were approved and issued. She is on her way back to Belarus as I write this. She experienced an unfortunate issue yesterday at the consulate yesterday which caused both of us to panic. The USC Poland LOST the electronic DS-160's that were submitted prior to the interview. They went ahead and conducted the interview, but told her that they could neither approve/disapprove-or process documents further until the form could be retrieved from their system. Basically, they left her hanging with little information about what to do, or recourse to take. Of course, she only had a determined amount of time for the schengen visa for poland, and the thoughts of the follow on logistics to return at later date were getting overwhelming. Long story short, Visas were miraculously approved and sent to the courier for pick-up in the afternoon there today.

I wanted to say thank-you to everyone here and the VJ community at large, for the dialog and support. Maryna & I had an unusually fortunate circumstances and experiences with our K1 journey. Now we will prepare for the next round of challenges ahead of us. I hope and pray to see the rest of you begin to close the gap on this miserable bureaucratic nightmare, receive your approvals, and be joyfully reunited with your other halves. If I've learned anything from this experience, reading post after post everyday, feeling the frustrations and triumphs of everyone, from their I-129F submittable, to their NOA1 and 2 notices, to the very obsessive/compulsive desire to ensure every form/communication/submission is precisely accurate,.... I've learned this is not race. This is a marathon, an emotional, spiritual, romantic marathon of sorts. The average person wouldn't have anything to do with this mess. This takes a certain breed to go down this road, very special people, with very unique stories, with very special relationships. May each one of you celebrate the sweetness of your enduring commitment and perseverance through this journey soon. When your day comes, remind yourselves, you did something pretty awesome. Cheers~Tom

UnaMexicana, I read your words. I'm completely agree with you

Love is exist I wish to everyone to find their loves. Don't give up when you found your love!

Marina

Hello Bjorn

Yes, I agree with you.

Everyone wants to be loved not for money, but for personality.

Marina

With whom I'm speaking: Bjorn or Regina?

Hello

Anyway, russian women can love more unselfishly than american women. I don't say about scammers - they don't have a real relations. They ask to send money, to pay for something. But they will not meet with you 5 times for 1.5 years as our girl.

The fake relations (called scamm) is not to meet each other in real life.

All contries have bad and good persons.

I want to think about her more better than all in this topic. I believe in people.

Been there done that. Was in the army as an intel analyst. Worked in govt for a while after that. Sent in much more information than required. Still waiting.

So sorry for your long wait bro. What is this "ARN Change Notification: 9-29-2014"?

If this even offers a glimmer of hope or explanation for anyone...As with everyone else on here, we sent required evidence, and of course information above and beyond what was requested. We did not request expedition of application. Nor did we seriously expect the fast approvals. In fact we were prepared for the looong haul. Especially after reading April, May, June filers comments. I can say for certainty, my background/pedigree is fairly complicated. I was born in England and held dual citizenship until age 16, my half brother is a german national, my mother and her husband lived in Germany/Italy/Sardinia-worked for U.S. based aviation contractor for various foreign government militaries, and lots of other pan national relationships and activities that I've been involved in. I am former U.S. military myself, I presently work for a defense contractor, and I have been inside the bubble since 1994 (ever fill out an SF-86? hint). I think the hypothesis I'd like to offer is that speed of approvals likely have correlation to a persons documented pedigree. What I mean by that is that if your identity (the petitioner) is easily verifiable via typical background investigation search methods used by government agencies DMV records, Registry checks, OFAC, SDNL, EDL, Terrorist watch list, SEC filings, FINRA, NICS, NACLAC, ANACI, JPAS, FCRA, and other checks, and that history spans a good amount of time, uninterrupted, less any negative outcomes (especially of the violent felony, domestic violence, tax evasion, fraud, and those of the national security variety) and of course, previous petitions for visas. Most of these DB's can be searched via a single portal as they overlap, and information is shared in a common DB. My guess is, when the I-129F is received, the application is "touched" and the petitioners information is then ran through an automated background investigation screening. The results of these searches are of typically two varieties: "Hits" , and "Cautions"/"Flags". A hit would mean select screening criteria had produced unfavorable results about the petitioner. A Caution or Flag would indicate that information received was inconclusive, and/or additional information exists and further investigation (human intervention) is required to disposition it correctly. Typically what I have seen in my professional experience is, breaks/gaps in employment, inaccurate financial reporting by credit companies and debt collectors, typographical error input by person being processed (social #'s, DOB, addresses, etc.) These cause false flags. I have no practical way to test this theory in regards to the USCIS investigation process, but have some convincing evidence that helps support this idea. I'm interested to here what others thoughts on this may be. Please feel free to disagree, I'm interested. Separate from this theory, I do believe (in fact I know), that some beneficiary countries will process quicker due to the particular relationship we (U.S.) have with that particular country. That relationship can be described as like a spectrum, and the filters for that spectrum include rated risks/threats based on activities that occur within that country such as terrorism, drug trafficking, human trafficking, espionage, visa fraud(yes they track this by country) and so on. This is a very simplified explanation, but one that can impact the timeliness of the beneficiary's investigation. Everything I mentioned however is only a portion of the overall process. The remainder of the process which accounts for time consumption is the "batch" portion of the process. I can't speak to this much as I do not understand it completely. It involves processing groups of applications based on when the batch was received. Apparently observations made by other Filer months have witnessed, when a NOA1 and NOA2 is issued, you will also see that those within a proximate numerical relationship be approved/touched/disapproved/RFE'd as well, hence "batch". So, the conclusion is that if a "batch" is active, and you believe your # is close enough to one that has been reported touched/approved/rfe'd, then yours is being processed as well. And of course if a batch is inactive......prepare for a long wait. By my account, we got lucky. Or maybe we are from Belarus-apines/Phili-rus, I don't know. But we do wish for each and every one of you to receive good news after the New Year. Waiting sucks, but don't lose hope. Vent, complain, write politicians, do whatever you must. It's your futures....own it, and fight the good fight!

Event Date Service Center : Texas Service Center Transferred? No Consulate : Warsaw, Poland I-129F Sent : 2014-09-12 I-129F NOA1 : 2014-09-18 I-129F RFE(s) : 2014-11-19 RFE Reply(s) : 2014-11-25 I-129F NOA2 : 2014-12-08 NVC Received : 2014-12-16 Date Case #, IIN, and BIN assigned : 2014-12-17 NVC Left : 2014-12-19 Consulate Received : 2014-12-24 Packet 3 Received : Packet 3 Sent : Packet 4 Received : Interview Date : 2015-01-27 Submit Review Interview Result : Second Interview
(If Required): Second Interview Result: Visa Received : US Entry : Marriage : Comments : Medical on 19 of january of 2015 Processing
Estimates/Stats : Your I-129f was approved in 81 days from your NOA1 date.

Your interview took 131 days from your I-129F NOA1 date.

I am so happy to be able to say the hardest part is over & we get to be together for the rest of the process & the rest of our lives! Thank you to all of you who have answered my many questions (;

Congratulations to the both of you <3

TSC sent packet to NVC today. Trying to figure out the whole cut off day thing for NVC processing. Might be calling them sooner than planned.

Pfredrikson, great letter. Hope you get some action.

Just for fun, I'd be interested in hearing more about the consistencies in regard to batch completions.

There is a gentleman in June filers that is running his own data analytics on noa's and rfe's. What his data is showing is that approvals, less known expidites based on benificiary country relief or request, are approved in clusters based on similar filing dates. So, it gleens that a methodology is in place, but not one that is consistent enough to make narrow individual or group sample forecasts. But a pattern appears to be revealed. None the less, the fact remains that uscis system is not as functional, fair, transparent and efficient as it should be.

To be honest, that causes me more stress. Plus someone just got their NOA2 and is TSC and non-filipino

I should have added that information as well. Sorry. We are TSC, and we ARE NOT an expedited case. Several people have asked about this. I did send letters to senators/congressmen/subcommittee on border security& immigration. I have not received replys from any of those communications I made. The RFE was for missing answers for criminal history. I wish I knew what the magic formula is. I followed June filers for a while a learned about some consistencies that suggest batch investigation completions. However, there are no sure fire ways of accurately predicting completions. This is particularly frustrating when all of us are trying to plan our new lives. My Christmas blessing and New Year wish is for all of our fellow September filers to receive the wonderful gift of a NOA2.

Thomas & Maryna