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I got the IV bill again from the NVC but still can't pay it online.

Did you get set them invoice?

I just called as I was told to do onmonday. They say they can see its completed on the website but still not showing up on their system yet so they cannot review it. They said to call back on Monday. I wonder if it's wortheven calling Cuz eve if they review Im reading that ppl are still it able to pay it.

I was told the same, to submit the AOS and the IV docs together straight away after AOS is paid, but should we really trust them? they just want to get you off the phone and get the next panic attack from the next caller.

I know the system Id fraught with inaccuracies and it's hard to trust the NVC workers but we have decided to send our packages in before IV. Never know how long IV fee will take to be invoiced. Some people are being quoted 42-60 days. Hopefully NVC fixes there system soon.

Submit ds261-25/11

Call NVC-8/12

Nvc told me that no da261 on there system and I need to do a new one. Advised to complete new ds261 online and make myself (beneficiary) the agent. Then call by the end of the week and NVC will review ds261 on the phone and invoice IV fee

Resubmit IV fee-8/12

Really worried about this but I'm praying that when I call at the end of the week it will be sorted.

Now reading your posts in realising that NVC probably couldn't see my Ds261 because of there system errors. Because I have reciept of submission for first ds261 and it said complete on CEAC.

Oh and one thing 3 different NVC workers have told me is to submit the AOS and IV docs straight away after AOS is paid. Don't wait for IV.

Please follow the instructions you received from the National Visa Center (NVC) for the next step in the processing of your visa petition. If you have misplaced the instructions sent to you by the NVC or did not receive them, please contact us at http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/info/info_3177.html for additional information.

This is the message I get I'm I doing something wrong?

My case# is the one starting with SDO?

I feel so lost and stupid??

You said you are on 60 days? Have you got case complete? It sounds like your are still at NVC and you do not have case complete yet. The link dwheels gave you will only really be useful once you get case complete.

Just my two cents

Is brother going to combine wife's income with his? If so, the yes; if not, then no.

Thank you

Because she doesn't make income she doesn't "need" to but include w2s to show that the husband makes all the income.

Thank you

You are counted in both households as the immigrant being sponsored. So your husband's household size is 2. And his brother's household size would be 4.

Does his brother make enough for a household of 4?

Does brithers wife need to do I-864a? NVC said no but I kind of don't trust them.

You are counted in both households as the immigrant being sponsored. So your husband's household size is 2. And his brother's household size would be 4.

Does his brother make enough for a household of 4?

Thank you NLR yes he does.

From reading the instructions for all the i-864 and doing research online. The i-864a is for family members to combine income. Like a husband and wife, parents and dependent child, etc... when you combine incomes it increases the household size as well. So they have to prove a family relationship and the fact they live at the same home plus combine their incomes. If your brother in law qualifies on his own with 3 people (or however many are in his own household) that may be an easier route for you with both your husband and his brother using the i-864.

Hi NLR just spoke to NVC and they said my husband and brother each should do an I-864. But the lady was not really helpful at all.

Can you please help me understand which household I would be counted in?

My husband I-864

Himself

Brother I-864

Himself

Wife

Do where do I get counted

Son

From reading the instructions for all the i-864 and doing research online. The i-864a is for family members to combine income. Like a husband and wife, parents and dependent child, etc... when you combine incomes it increases the household size as well. So they have to prove a family relationship and the fact they live at the same home plus combine their incomes. If your brother in law qualifies on his own with 3 people (or however many are in his own household) that may be an easier route for you with both your husband and his brother using the i-864.

Hi NLR just spoke to NVC and they said my husband and brother each should do an I-864. But the lady was not really helpful at all.

Can you please help me understand which household I would be counted in?

My husband I-864

Himself

Brother I-864

Himself

Wife

Son

Do where do I get counted? Do I get counted on both?

Just spoke to NVC and they said that husband and brother have to do seperate i864

Hmm...correct me if I'm wrong, but in this case it may be better for the brother to do an I-864A instead of his own I-864.

By filing the I-864A the brother doesn't have to include his spouse and child as part of his household size because his income will simply be combined with the OP's husband. Unless I'm missing something huge here, I don't think that the brother's wife and child show up anywhere on the form if the brother will fill out an I-864A.

If he fills out a separate I-864, then he would have to make enough for a household of 4(brother, OP, wife, child) whereas if he does the I-864A the total household size would be 3 (the OP, husband, and brother).

As for proving the relationship, a copy of the brother and husband's birth certs. For proving the same address the tax transcripts would serve as proof plus one form of current evidence such as paystubs (which you would use anyway) or a utility bill or bank statement. Basically something official with the same address slapped across it for each of them.

Hi Ian yeah I think that's the way we are going to go use the I-864A with all the evidence plus brothers W-2 like KayDeeCee suggested.

But I'm going to try get in touch with NVC when they open just to make sure.

My worry is that brothers tax return States that he is married (even though the wife makes no money).

From reading the instructions for all the i-864 and doing research online. The i-864a is for family members to combine income. Like a husband and wife, parents and dependent child, etc... when you combine incomes it increases the household size as well. So they have to prove a family relationship and the fact they live at the same home plus combine their incomes. If your brother in law qualifies on his own with 3 people (or however many are in his own household) that may be an easier route for you with both your husband and his brother using the i-864.

Ok I get you now lol (all this stuff is a bit confusing). I'm gonna try call NVC to ask them what's they would prefer we do just in case. I really really don't want a checklist.

Thank you again for your response. I appreciate the help.

They are not household members in a tax sense which is what matters here. The brother and his wife are, but not your husband.

Thank you for your response. Where are you getting your information from. Your statement doesn't seem to add up to what NVC are saying. They define household members as people living together.

His brother should do an I-864 not an I-864a.

But they live in the same house and therefore are household members. What would be the reason for his brother doing a I-864 instead of their-864a?

NVC pretty clear on there website that if it's a household member you do the i-864a.

Your husband won't list his brother's household members, just his own and his brother, because he is filling out an I-864A as his household member to combine incomes with his. So, if it was just you and your husband and no other dependents, then it will come out to a total household size of 3: himself, you and his brother. Their combined incomes need to meet the requirement for that household size.

The brother should provide his most recent tax transcript plus a copy of his W-2 to show his individual income. That way they can see all the income comes from his brother and none from the wife.

They should both also provide proof of current income, with a letter from employer and/or recent pay stubs. They also need to provide proof of their relationship and that they share the same residence.

KeyDeeCee you are awesome! Thank you so much. That makes lots of sense now.

Cheers.

hi

no, because as you stated she doesn't work, so what income would she be combining with her husband?

the i864 and the i864A is to combine income

so the petitioner will file the i864 and his brother the i864A, and send in copies of his W2's

Thank you Aleful

So NVC won't need an I864A even though she is listed on her husbands tax return?

Do we include her as a household member on my husbands 1864. Then she does a seperate 1864A?

Hello

My husband lives with his brother and sister inlaw (brothers wife) and infant nephew.

His brothers tax return is joint with his wife.

My husband does not meet the minimum threshold so his brother is doing the 1864A household member form. His brother makes more then enough to cover all of us.

We have all the documents now but we are wondering if his wife needs to fill one out since their tax return is joint?

His wife does not work and she does not make an income.

There is no where on the 1864 for my husband to include her in the form. There is also no where for his brother to include her or his son on his 1864a form.

We are trying hard to not get a checklist.

Any and every bif of help will really be appreciated! Please.

You are most welcome. Let me know how you go with your submission.

I am sending my wife's Tax documents to NVC today with a letter giving detailed explanation...thus, giving them more than the required documentation and information.

Dreading the 60 day letter (and the potential 60 days) for these to be reviewed....

Hi I just checked the website and AOS fee is available to pay so tomorrow I will be paying it..

thankyou for letting me know. Just checked after reading your post and AOS is available for us to pay to. Will be paying asap.

My husband also just got the AOS invoice letter. So looks like we will be able to pay AOS before next week hopefully.

Same here I just received welcome email and I went on the site and it's still not available to pay.. Please let me know what they say..

After what felt like a 100 call back attempts and then being on hold for 30 minutes I spoke to a very nice lady. She said the CEAC payment portal is down. It should be back up an running by Friday (US time) and should be able to pay AOS by then.

She also said that once you get the letter you can send finacial and civil documents straight away with the cover letter. You don't have to wait to pay the AOS fee or IV fee. She stressed that 60 day clock is linked to document scan date not payment of fees so get them in ASAP. That's good to know.

We are going to wait to pay the AOS fee because that will give my husband time to put all the docs together lol. Then we we will hopefully send everything by end of next week (God willing). I think if the AOS still not available by next end of next week we will still send in the docs.

So thankful to God that there is progress!!! ?

im in same boat as you I received case number November 20 filled out ds261 on the 21st hopefully I get the welcome letter sometimes this week..my thoughts to you is to call and ask one of the nvc reps to review your ds261 over the phone, you might get a nice rep to do that for you and they will only do it if you chose yourself as the agent..

Just received our welcome letter but AOS fee still not available. I'm trying to call them now.

Yeah - that's one of the multitude of issues I have found with the AUS Police Clearance process.

From this experience, I believe the best way to complete the task is to do the following:

1. Obtain the relevant Police Check for your state

2. Have the original sent to your home address

3. Scan / Photocopy the Original

4. Send the Original to the US Consulate

5. Include photocopy in documents sent to NVC

Using the above, I believe this would cover all aspects of having the original Police Clearance at the US Consulate and included at the NVC (even if irrelevant - at least it is there)

I am still yet to find out which of the documents - AFP Police Clearance OR the NSW National Police Clearance - are the official documents which they require.

If I had a time machine, I would go back and do both in the same manner as above.

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Thankyou I think we will do exactly what you suggested here to cover all basis. I appreciate the information

Hey VJ community,

Country: Australia

AOS Scan Date: 29th Sept

IV Scan Date: 29th Sept

I have just been in contact with NVC just before closing on Friday night (NVC time). I was hoping for CC, but alas there were 2 items which the agent provided information on which prevented CC:

1. Police Certificate

I obtained the National Police Clearance and included a photocopy of this with the documentation.

NVC Response:

This should have gone to the US Consulate.

My Question:

Can I just make another photocopy of the National Police Clearance document and send it to the US Consulate via email?

or

Do I have complete another National Police Clearance (spend another $100) and have it sent directly to US Consulate (Sydney) via the online process?

2. Petitioners 2013 W2 Form(s):

My wife (USC) included her 2013 Tax Return (in full) to the NVC. Due to her working in Australia for the entire 2013 tax period and self employed, she has no W2 Form - it simply does not exist and there is literally no need for it to exist - she never worked in US during 2013. Tax return was completed by US based Tax Accountant and all supporting Australian Tax information included. No US tax payable as was under threshold.

NVC Response: Even if she didn't work, she would still need to include the W2 Form from her employer. (eh? I don't even know how that makes sense)

My Question: Besides the above response making no sense, would the IRS Tax Transcript for 2013 be acceptable and fulfil the requirement?

Thanks for any tips / advice.

Hello can you please explain further what the problem was with you sending a photocopy of your police clearance. The NVC information for Australia's says we should send a copy of the police clearance and NVC have also stated that we should only send photocopies rather then the original.

We are to take the original with us to the Australian embassy in Sydney.

What was the exact problem. My husband and I are putting our docs together and want to make sure all of right before we can send.

I just called and she reviewed my ds261 and told me IV fee will be able next week or the week after and that AOS might be available this week or next week.. So I'll wait and see..

That's positive news. I will definitley call tonight. Hopefully fees are invoiced soon!

Hi, Perhaps I too am sailing in the same boat like you.

I got approved on Sept 20th, but not able to pay any fees yet. Haven't received the invoice. It is nearly 2.5 months!

Though I received Case number on 17th November.

No idea what is taking them so long!