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  1. How can the child brought into US without his/her knowledge can be spitting into your face?? Just because he/she grew up here and would like to work legally as opposed to us bringing foreign fiancees (including myself) while there are plenty of american women?? Why this should be a priority over DACA???

    I wouldn't say that illegals are spitting in our face, and I certainly wouldn't spit in their face. That being said, if getting DACA abolished is what it takes to get my loved one to the USA, then so be it. If this administration wants to play hardball, I am up to the challenge.

  2. This is beyond unacceptable. US Citizens filed this petition and paid good money for it. There is absolutely no reason that ANY group, business, illegal, whatever should be put ahead of citizens. It should be a USCIS policy regardless of Presidential mandates. I can understand having a set processing time, say 6 months to allow passions to cool down and make sure folks are really ready to get married, however this fickle up and down, bounce you about nonsense should not be acceptable. I know people will reply that this is government and we should just wait but why? If the DMV were to slow down it's processing of drivers licenses, etc do you think that people would put up with it? "Oh sorry, we are behind, currently we are processing pink licenses for dreamers, we'll get to you next month" can you even imagine the outrage? I'm sorry, but from what I have read on these forums it doesn't sound like the USCIS processing takes much longer for than for the DMV processing your license. Considering it is multiple times more expensive.

    It's time for the people here who are just like "Whatever just wait" to switch off and for a little outrage to switch on. If a group of illegals who don't have to pay anything to process their application can get set ahead of the legitimate citizens what are we coming to? Google DACA and the first link is a special interest group that wants illegals go come on board because they will be more sympathetic to their cause. This should be outrageous to any citizen regardless of political affiliation. I personally believe immigrants are a huge asset to this nation and agree with many economists who feel that in the not to far future, advanced nations will be competing for immigrants. However the idea that immigrants should essentially be given an open door because they are more likely to vote in a certain why should be a tasteless to Americans as gerrymandering.

    Sorry for the rant, but as long as people are willing to sit back and say "that's the way government is" without remembering in which country they live (a place where people can apply pressure and change things) nothing will change. We should talking to various organizations to see if their is a lobbying day in Washington focused on immigration. If not we should set one up. Folks who are being served by the various other service centers should pay attention as well, things might be going OK at VSC now, but what if they get overloaded with a bunch of these DACA applications as well?

    Feeling the same way you are. Don't worry about the people who are sitting on their hands and not feeling the outrage, because I've got plenty of it to go around and plan on taking lots of action.

  3. I should also note that I do not feel one need to wait beyond the USCIS's own manipulated processing time frame date before they reach out to their elected representative. In fact, I think anyone who is at or nearing the five month target time should send their letter right away. The writing is on the wall about your delay. Why wait to let your representative know about the problem?

    I may do this indeed, or at least spend some of my weekend working on the drafts that I will send. My NOA1 antiversary is April 5.

  4. You are providing assertions but no evidence and very superficial analysis. Yes, there are more DACA apps than I-129Fs. But that's pretty much where your analysis begins and ends.

    First, DACA, by design, only affects a group of relatively young individuals. Many of them are students who will be working campus jobs and other low wages positions that are no better paying than illegal waitstaff jobs.

    Second, DACA applicants are getting their approvals in under a month. In comparison, I-129F petitioners are waiting 6-7 months if they are lucky. A fast I-129F processing is 5 months; a fast DACA processing is a few weeks. Now think in terms of percentages what that means for relative fluctuations of completions per receipts. You want to talk about relative hardship? Well you should be talking about weeks versus months.

    Third, as has been pointed out, the I-129F is just the beginning of a longer process for K-1 applicants. Moreover, what follows the I-129F involves a ton of logistics and thus requires a great deal of planning. Not having a set approval time frame (or even any transparency) for I-129Fs is a huge problem. Having a few days fluctuation for DACA approvals, on the other hand, poses no such problems on DACA applicants.

    Fourth, as has been pointed out, the economic and emotional impact on I-129F petitioners is substantial. Supporting two separate households is no easy thing, not to mention how it negatively affects the job prospects for the beneficiary on both ends of the process.

    The point is not that we should be choosing one or the other--I-129Fs or DACA. And it's not that the USCIS shouldn't process DACAs in a timely manner. I and most other posters here are totally fine with DACAs being completed more quickly than I-129Fs because DACA apps are simpler and should be easier to finish. But what is not ok is for DACA apps to be completed at a higher completions to receipts ratio than both I-129Fs and the two year average for all application types, all while I-129Fs get processed at their slowest rate in two years. As I have shown, I-129Fs are not just getting slowed down so that DACAs can get processed; they are being practically brought to a halt so that DACAs can get processed quickly. It's not defensible.

    Good post. And let's also think about the long term jobs outcome, if not on an economic level then on an individual level. The DACA is granting 2-year work permits and beyond that it's anybody's guess. The fiancees of K1 Visa petitioners will have a US Citizen as a sponsor, a clear path to eventual citizenship and an economic foothold to remain in the workforce for the remainder of their career.

  5. Here's articles citing that DACA itself, in the worlds of California politicians, benefit that state by increasing tax revenue to help out with their state budgeting problem. The second article shows that more than 25% of DACA-eligibles live in California.

    SanDiego does have a point that it likely does add up nicely for California, particularly southern LA where the CSC is headquarted. This smells like a backroom deal between the state of California and the USCIS.

    But it's a big-time conflict of interest because the CSC consumes California infrastructure and jobs and this warrants an unbiased investigation.

    <http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/california-politics/2012/08/california-lawmakers-illegal-immigrants.html>

    <http://www.ppic.org/main/publication_show.asp?i=818>

  6. NUmber of K1 applicants are not even close to number of DACA. This is why DACA has greater macroeconomic impact.

    Yeah I'm sure it's having a nice economic effect in southern California, where a hight number of the DACA-eligible illegals reside. And what a coincidence, that's the location where these DACA's are being processed. Can a conflict of interest be much more obvious?

  7. I just wrote a letter to the LA Times to have them investigate and write about the massive delays currently occurring at the CSC with I-129F petitions. I will continue to write to the various papers and media outlets around the country every day until the CSC starts spitting out approvals. When I see they are still working on July and it is almost April and many people are still waiting for a response after receiving their NOA1 in July and August, it does not exactly fill me with hope that my fiance will be here this year. If you would like to help, I propose that you do the same, contact your congress person, contact media outlets by phone or write to them and let them know about this intolerable situation that is going on with fiance approvals at the CSC.

    +1, good job. When my 5 month anniversary hits next Friday I'm turning into a bulldog. Going to write my elected officials and newspapers/TV outlets to get our story heard.

  8. You may remeber that they were brought to US unknowingly, as kids.. In addition, no one said that they are "cutting inline".. They are waiting just like everyone else. On the other hand, they are probably in greater needs than all of us and our fiancees. They need LEGAL jobs. This is not their fault that they were brought here as kids. In addition, for our current budget situation, it makes more economical sense to legalize illegal immigrants than bringing foreign fiances/es. I am just stating macroeconomical facts. Myself I am republican and do not endorse illegal immigration. However, this is a different situation.

    Agree and disagree ... yes they are not cutting in line, because there is no real line. There are sets of work to be done and the CSC is putting the illegals' work far ahead of ours.

    Economic sense ... what does it matter? My fiancee will get a job soon after she is allowed to come here. Both her or an illegal can work and contribute to the US economy. And if you want to talk economic impact, consider that so many of us on VJ are sending money abroad via Western Union to help support our fiancees that doesn't see the light of day in the US. One of these days I would love to not be a hermit in my apartment and go out with my loved one and enjoy a nice dinner and a movie, go bowling, go shopping with her (did I really just say that?) ... things that can help our economy.

  9. Everybody is impacted, there is no question about it, but instead of blaming DACA, 'illegals', etc; How about going to the real root cause: The representatives of Congress that can not even freaking agree on a budget because of their partisan reasons. But we sort of have a handle on that, it's called election. So next time you vote -because you do vote, right? check who supports or not an immigration reform (and I'm not advocating neither, it is up to each one to decide what's best); check who actually does work in your favor, as oppose to a lobby or to a given interest. And when your spouse becomes a citizen, there is another vote.

    Given the numbers of people in this forum, plus a potential double (spouses), and the general lack of participation of the general public, I would submit that we here can make changes happen, not tomorrow, but in the not very distant future.

    As for now, everyone here can let their own representative know what they think (one way or another). If you feel impacted unfavorably, let your representative know; heck, ask your relatives and friends to let them know. Isn't this the way the original Tea Party ended up bringing independence from the Brits?

    Elections are a dog and pony show. These politicians' idea of "immigration reform" is not the real "immigration reform" that needs to be done.

  10. DACA's effect on I-129F petitioners is not a result of the current immigration laws; it is the result of the USCIS's intra-agency choices and priorities. And the way the USCIS has executed those choices matters a great deal. DACA application processing is not affecting "everybody"; it is disproportionately affecting I-129F petitioners. Heck, even DACA applicants themselves are having their applications cleared through at a rate (completions per receipts) that far outstrips the rate of I-129F processings. In other words, I-129F petitioners are bearing a bigger part of the burden for the DACA filings than the DACA filers themselves. It's just wrong, no matter how you cut it.

    And why is the USCIS acting in such a biased fashion to serve the needs of a single petitioner class (DACA) at the expense of another class (I-129F)? If you don't think it has anything to do with the current administrations' electoral priorities, then I'd love to hear an alternative explanation.

    +1

  11. The problem I have is that the workload of the USCIS has increased greatly and now they are way behind. It is very poor capacity planning on the part of the government.

    I do have empathy for the young people like the ones in the video who petition and can benefit from DACA and want to stay in America. That said, I don't buy the way that the video depicted the US government and justice system as some 'big mean deportation bully' that has to be softened up. The fact of the matter is, these kids are picking up the tab because their parents or relatives didn't think about the consequences of their actions. Now the government is stepping in to try to alleviate the situation and, unfortunately, not thinking about the consequences of their actions. And everyone on here is picking up that tab.

    The jury is still out on whether DACA is really helping these people. The video didn't cite any testimony or statistics that these kids are getting a favorable outcome. Some social programs work and some are ill-conceived. It's just too soon to tell.

  12. Good letter Ron. I also like some of the other letters I've read on here being written to elected officials. In a few weeks my fiancee and I will be beyond the 5-month goal and I intend to write my elected officials, in the hope I may get a timely response. A few months ago, I wasn't sure that the DACA legislation is what was causing the CSC slowdown, but now the writing is on the wall and it's clear what's going on.

    Sadly, I also feel that the general public has no awareness of our collective suffering. I think that needs to change. I have had thoughts about trying to get a story run in the local newspaper, maybe a story on the local TV station. I have been told that I have a gift for making strong written arguments. It may seem like a small thing, but in the age of the Internet where media segments are published, it is a decent start. Nobody in the general public - friends or coworkers that I've talked to - even knows what DACA is and the problems it is causing, until I talk to them. When you step back and think about our grievances - illegal aliens being processed immediately and natural born citizens paying a considerable fee and waiting for many months on end - it is a disappointing state of affairs. Not just for me and my fiancee but for all of us. I intend to fight for my love because I told her I would go through hell for her - and that's where I'm at right now. We need to get these issues out in the public and offer solutions and ask for an accountable, if not transparent, visa process. But I will remain diplomatic and respectful, don't want to make matters worse for any of us.

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