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I just want to address the post being added to another. Come on people it is not rude! There is no general rule about how things are to be posted and some people are not computer savey.
I know that any Visa process is fustrating and sometimes we panic and dont know what to do. So thank G_d that we have VisaJourney for all its help.
As the post orginator just email tech admin have him/her split the post into a new topic. Then KINDLY inform the poster that its best practice to open a new post.
Please understand that almost all folks posting her English is a second language and even for some English speakers this whole visa stuff is complex also.

bs, yes they would, almost all aid is military.

yes, the get less aid then other middle east countries. most of the aid come in military. because the have to defend themselves. if the surrounding countries where peaceful no aid would be needed.
Jordian people live of the aid the receive. Syria is using the aid the receive to kill their own people, and Egypt is doing an awesome job of ruining their relationship with the USA, that they are about to lose ~1.9 billion in aid a year.
so before you throw aid money around see how it's being used. is it for living or defense.

maybe it's a message to Iran, you know the country that wants to wipe out all of the Jews in the world! you know the same agenda you preach.

I agree with why_me, there will be no aid coming from the USA or UN. there is nothing of intreats for us, the Arab league will proabley do nothing, they will just ask UN for help. it's funny how people preach we are brothers under the Muslim religion but do nothing when it comes to terriony.
if Arabs wanted to help you would have seen lebonan, jordon, turkey, and other Arab nation attach or show a build up of forces, to imply their intensions to stop this civil war.
the only time Arabs will join forces is to destroy Israel or for terrorist activities.

I dont care about your relationship. It does not affect me, you are free to do what you like. This is a free country. We have freedom of speach, freedom of religion, and the right to bear arms. Look maybe my 10 yrs have caused an issue and I apologies for that, and maybe the 10yr gap is taken out of concept. But if your dating someone you can father or mother, then it's a bit off.

do you really think Israel is going to attack or publicize when it's going to do so. also how do you know Iran is not going o be the first.

I call BS from reading 181 thats not what it states and looking at the UN records you interpatation is different than mine or the rest of the world.
2nd No one is going back to the 181 proposal that is in the past and unfortunatly for you we live in the present. You have to take a look at what exists now and work from there. I want to work from 1500 years ago, but is that going to happen, no. so why should i work from something that happend over 60 yers ago?
You are the one being unreasnable. Lets start from the current plan, Isreal will give you back what you have know a safe zone will be enacted by both sides. Jerusalem will be the capital of Israel (all). Israel will provide aid (power and water) for 15 years at that time it expect Pal to be full self reliant.
There we go we have a proposal.

sure you do, you post day and night about this #######. you think I came here to see a group of people being attacked. I see you like it when I attack you and you call me a war monger, raceist... it's not fun when you get offended. this is how it feels to have someone attacking you all the time, telling your people are wrong and ours are right, now die.
i don't see anyone saying something about the budhiest, christains, and any other religion. but your a Jew then that's fair game.

Not sure what JAFO means. If your not a Muslim than you hate one muslim over another. Wow racism at its worst.

Nice, you even hate you own. I think self destruction is in your blood.

maybe they should watch the video I posted and the the will reconsider. gays in Israel have more rights in there then in the US and defiantly defiantly then in the middle east. I love how PLO likes to say look these people are for us, then the next day they are preaching death. pals are nothing but back stabbing idiots

yes I am reading what you wrote. it's just funny when you say "Ancestral lands" and tell Israel to leave them. I'm okay with no aid, Israel really does not need it.
it's actually better, will defiantly put pressure for pals to get out or negotiate. so yes I agree with no aid to the middle east for all.

MYTH
“U.S. aid to the Middle East has always been one-sided in favor of Israel.” top
FACT
After Israel’s victory in its War of Independence, the U.S. responded to an appeal for economic aid to help absorb immigrants by approving a $135 million Export-Import Bank loan and the sale of surplus commodities. In those early years of Israel’s statehood (also today), U.S. aid was seen as a means of promoting peace.
In 1951, Congress voted to help Israel cope with the economic burdens imposed by the influx of Jewish refugees from the displaced persons camps in Europe and from the ghettos of the Arab countries. Arabs then complained the U.S. was neglecting them, though they had no interest in or use for American aid then. In 1951, Syria rejected offers of U.S. aid. Oil-rich Iraq and Saudi Arabia did not need U.S. economic assistance (yet the Saudis did get aid and continue to get assistance), and Jordan was, until the late 1950s, the ward of Great Britain. After 1957, when the United States assumed responsibility for supporting Jordan and resumed economic aid to Egypt, assistance to the Arab states soared. Also, the United States was by far the biggest contributor of aid to the Palestinians through UNRWA, a status that continues to the present day.
Prior to 1971, Israel received a total of only $277 million in military aid, all in the form of loans as credit sales. The bulk of the economic aid was also lent to Israel. By comparison, the Arab states received nearly three times as much aid before 1971, $4.4 billion, or $170 million per year. Moreover, unlike Israel, which receives nearly all its aid from the United States, Arab nations have gotten assistance from Asia, Eastern Europe, the Soviet Union and the European Community.
Israel did not begin to receive large amounts of assistance until 1974, following the 1973 war, and the sums increased dramatically after the Camp David agreements. Altogether, since 1949, Israel has received more than $100 billion in assistance. In 1998, Israel offered to voluntarily reduce its dependence on U.S. aid and over the next ten years economic assistance was gradually phased out. Arab states that have signed agreements with Israel have also been rewarded. Since signing the peace treaty with Israel, Egypt has been the second largest recipient of U.S. foreign aid ($1.6 billion in 2010 compared to Israel’s $2.7 billion). Jordan has also been the beneficiary of higher levels of aid since it signed a treaty with Israel (increasing from less than $40 million to $693 million in 2010). The multibillion dollar debts to the U.S. of both Arab nations were also forgiven.
“It is my responsibility to see that our policy in Israel fits in with our policy throughout the world; second, it is my desire to help build in Palestine a strong, prosperous, free and independent democratic state. It must be large enough, free enough, and strong enough to make its people self-supporting and secure.”
— President Harry Truman 16
After the Oslo agreements, the United States also began providing aid to the Palestinians.
Since 1994, Palestinians have received more than $2.9 billion in U.S. economic assistance via USAID projects—more than from any other donor country. In 2010, alone, financial aid exceeded $500 million. 17 More than 60 percent of the PA’s GNP comes from U.S., European Union, UN, and World Bank funds. The PA receives an average of $1,000 per year for every Palestinian citizen from foreign sources. 18
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths3/MFUSpolicy.html#8 ( little dated, but so is the ####### the cry babies are posting)

Then I think he needs to take it up with veteran affairs. please read the PDF, to get your answer.
http://www.nsa.gov/public_info/_files/uss_liberty/attack_sigint.pdf (gov website)

there is no proof that it was calculated. it's all speculation. unless you know something that we don't. plus Israel payed full reparations to the people killed and wounded. what have the terrorist countries paid for there crimes against to the US, nothing. 9/11 we just got where sorry.
Israel has always said they don't need aid. but you countries always cry out for more and more. what Israel gets compared to the middle east is nothing.
Iran drags US into war

Nope still here sorry just clearing away some tunnels in the Gaza strip. I dont get internet access there.

comments and discussion are welcomed.

what is america sacrificing for Israel? did you know most of the weapon technology us uses, came from Israel in dealing with terrorist like Hamas, PLO. inovations such as the telephone, optics, guided missiles tech and hummas.
what has come out from Iran, pal, Iraq, afghan..death just pain. we as Americans are dealing with so many issues that extremest have started. deficit, loss of innocent lives, post tremtic stress, a divided country. this was all started extremest that only see there view and not any others. it's a shame that people who where so great at one time fell so low do to the zealots.
plus iran will do something first, then the world will be in the mix. nuclure war affects us all. plus if they declare strike that reaches Israel, you know the west bank and gaza and all other countries around it will suffer.
it's funny how extremist don't care if a humanity dies around them, just to say hey we won. very childish and primitive thinking.

last feb I was in Israel. this aug I go back. wait wait isn't it your carp. you mean you can use what you want but I have to be selective holly #######. I wish you only had stones. but unfortunately you have explosives, rockets and human beings that will sacrifice themselves for your cause.
what do you mean by "more sophisticated weapons" are you planning something on the 15th, please don't do any terrorist acts. oh my g_d..

look it's a shame there cannot be peace, it's a shame that we put poltical leaders in place who look after there own agenda. it's a shame we teach hatred from both sides. its a shame that kids have to throw rocks and a shame Israel needs to lock them up for assault with a weapon. I have many Muslim friends, we don't let politics play in our friendship and we go about our daily lives. I am not a zioniest , but I cannot stand when people push half truths and lies. yes a boy got detained but it was never for no reason.

depends what they did. I guess you would be okay with kids being released here for committing murder or assault. if so I can agree in releasing kids in pal. I also believe in the right to bear arms and to protect myself if attacked by rocks or rockets, or other weapons. if you want to keep your children out of custody prevent them from commuting crimes. it all starts from home.
card carrying NRA and concealed hand gun owner, god loves Texas and the united states and the country given to the Jews by him.

yes it makes it easier for the world to see that pals want something for nothing.
before Israel there was nothing, it was a harsh environment, when Israel bought the land started producing fruit. you said I want that after all the work is done. I call this lazy! you now want the land back after you lost counles wars, dropped countless peace agreements, lost countless un appeals. it could have been easy for you if you put effort into something all you do is talk talk talk, no action or anything of substance.
come on dooo something. we traded with you 1000 prisoners for 1. even your political groups said that's not enough. these where people who plotted to kill innocent people, and we wanted back one person who wanted to protect his people from rock and rockets.
you tell me what's fair when you have all the chips?
goofy iPod

Then you would agree that a country has a right to defend itself also. A country that is recognized by the UN. A country that has the right to defend it self from terrorists.
How are they disenfranchised they do not recognize isreal, so why should israel give them rights. If I dont pay taxs or follow american laws, should I collect social security or be given the right to vote. If I attack a group of people with rocks or rockets, should they care about my well being? As I said why dont your brother countries take you in as the Jews did with Ethiopian Jews. Why arent there plans, boats or borders being opened for you. Its because they say they care, but in actuality they do not.
That sucks big time.

Then I guess every single enthicity and nationality has been oppressed. Why dont you ask the Birtish and the Ottamans why you got screwed also they sold the land to us. When the 6 day war started oops you lost the land, nothing new here has been done thousands of times in history. You will not be the first or the last as they say.
In a thousand years people will talk about it as they do about the Roman Empire.
Actually I help out at many Jewish organizations, JCC, Jewish Fediration and countless others not Jewish related.
Im not ccomplaining what was done to me of my grandparents or great great grand parents.. Your the ones that are bitching. I just saying stop the bitching and move on with your life. I dont the blame germans, I even have relatives that live there.
Admite carp happens pals lost thier land, in a battle that was fought by almost all arab nations. Countries and empires come and go, saddly its the end for Palistine.