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im sorry for this unsolicited comment.. sparky is right, it is not safe to pass money to your fiance in public, if there is no way to do it privately, you must learn how to do it very discretely, especially here in the phils... and i second, you should trust your fiance more with handling money..
and with your rant about the clinic's policy and the beggars, and all complains that irritates you about the Philippines.. please remind yourself that you are in a foreign country, PH is different from america, i know there are so many flaws in the Philippine system.. if you cannot embrace the things about the country, at least understand well that you are not in your homeland where you have access to what u need or exercise or over-exercise your rights.. im sorry but i just hate it when i see people complaining without even trying to understand the situation.. i acknowledge your disappointment but you could have reacted in a nicer way or you could have even went back to your hotel room while your girl is in the clinic since phones are not prohibited inside...
on a lighter note, this is why Filipinos are very patient and very understanding...
I guess the Philippines is just teaching you how to be more patient and more understanding and even more tolerating...
i just wish more than changing the system, you realize what you can learn while you have to deal with the system...

you practically bought this little girl....why didn't you just settle with an american girl and save you a bunch of moolah and aggravation???? i wonder why...oh why...oh why? you knew what you were getting into..besides, you should've picked someone who is professional or someone as smart as you? naaahhh....you would not be able to manipulate someone who is mature and educated.

This is the only thing i can tell you, you have put yourself in this situation darren. In the first place, it was you who offered money to the family. It was you who provided your young girl financial support every month. i am no saying that it is bad, however you came to their lives giving out the wrong notion that you are papa santa claus who will raise them up from poverty. and now bec of your money, you think you can control their lives and you can dictate them how they are going to live their lives

This is the only thing i can tell you, you have put yourself in this situation darren. In the first place, it was you who offered money to the family. It was you who provided your young girl financial support every month. i am no saying that it is bad, however you came to their lives giving out the wrong notion that you are papa santa claus who will raise them up from poverty. and now bec of your money, you think you can control their lives and you can dictate them how they are going to live their lives

This is the only thing i can tell you, you have put yourself in this situation darren. In the first place, it was you who offered money to the family. It was you who provided your young girl financial support every month. i am no saying that it is bad, however you came to their lives giving out the wrong notion that you are papa santa claus who will raise them up from poverty. and now bec of your money, you think you can control their lives and you can dictate them how they are going to live their lives

Darren, you voluntarely paid all the money to impress her family so you could gain a 19 year old in your possesion. You have'nt had her here one week and turned into a Control Addict. Your not even married yet but now you have her here and laying down your rules.
You have Issues. Are you going to hide her in the closet and only take her out of it when you decide. She is a young child (Adult) and will learn what you were and what your turned into. How are you going to act when she adjusts and meets other Pinays and they look at her situation with you and your behavior. Your butt is cooked. She will get smart.
You taken a young woman from her Villidge and promised the world and in less than a week destroyed all that but she don't see it yet. Oh, she will see eventually. And you are stuck. Modify your behavior.
You taken advantage of this young ladies life. You brought her to the States and now wish to be treated like a King from a 19 year old.
She is going to notice other men/husbands wifes. She is trapped. And she will get out of that trap eventually.
You talk about money in all your replys. No trust and even doubts. Well, you did it.
You would be a fool to not realize Sucker! Blood is thicker than water and your blood is running thin and crystal clear.
I just hope after the fake presentation you showed over there did not shame the family.
They trusted you. Now your complaining. Never heard of Marrigde Counsil before being married. YOU HAVE ISSUES Darren. Your behavior will intensify because Grethchen is pretty and men will look. She is going to be your wife and not a barbie doll to hide in the closet and pull out when you want to play with it.

This is the only thing i can tell you, you have put yourself in this situation darren. In the first place, it was you who offered money to the family. It was you who provided your young girl financial support every month. i am no saying that it is bad, however you came to their lives giving out the wrong notion that you are papa santa claus who will raise them up from poverty. and now bec of your money, you think you can control their lives and you can dictate them how they are going to live their lives

i don't know but somehow i feel sorry for her already.... tsk... tsk... tsk... all i can say to her is "Good Luck!"

She is mine now?
I control you?
Who wears the pants and dresses?
Purpose of your post? You have a fiancee not property.

Guys, let's don't be too much of a KJ. Let "Da Man" enjoy his delusions of grandeur. The guy enjoys bragging how many pennies he spends for his little girl and the family. Let him be.
Btw... TGIF sucks!

Darren- Your post is making it appear that Gretchen has become ' collateral' at the bank for her folks loan and an exchange for a new boat for her dad. It makes me want to cry for the poor teenager. Really. She's a commodity apparantly and what's she getting out of it? Oh yeah- 'all nighters' with you. Lovely.
I am praying for Gretchen and that the impression you are giving is only your writing style.

I am sorry that this happened, but she should have gone directly to the Civil Registrar... last 2001, the congress submit a law for this... authorizing the civil registrar to take care of the correction of name... here is the link: http://www.bcphilippineslawyers.com/republic-act-no-9048/
Prior to this law filipinos can correct our birth certificate only by going to court, which was a tedious process which approximately takes a year...
I think the lawyer made a play to get money... SO SORRY....

well Gehn after reading all the posts i guess i'll chime in here.
first i'm sure the man you married is a good man .....
however he has been dealing with these crazy people all his life & that is probably why he just does whatever they tell him to do.
now having said that it's still not normal, the people you live with have H-U-G-E control issues !!!!!!!!!!!!
you will need to be very strong
the question i have is how long have you already been in the USA ?
also , are you willing to try something, it mite work & it mite not
i don't really know how many people are living in this mad house with you
however have you tried to do small things that they didn't ask you to do?
you know little things to help them
like bringing a cold drink to your mother inlaw
i know it sounds crazy but these people love playing games .....mind games
so you too can play
just get up one day & put a nice smile on your face
yes it will be fake & you will always know this , but maybe you can in time fool them
use these crazy people to get what you need to get & once your conditions are removed give them another fake smile & pack your bags & go.
if your husband wants to go with you great but i hate to say it but i have to be 100% honest
i don't think he will ever leave these people.
ok enough about that
back to the plan
once you have your fake smile on just start to act like you are the maid
(because that is what these crazy people want from you anyhow)
you know Hollywood has many actors that make a very good living
can you be an actor till your conditions are removed????
i think in the end it will be well well worth it
now if you see any kind of changes in the crazy people (you know them treating you a little better)
then you can really try out your Hollywood acting skills
if you find the aunt & the mother inlaw in the same room
have a talk with them & tell them how sorry you are & that you really want to do better & make them happy
(this is a total lie but you mite be able to get them to think that you are really sorry)
i think that once they start to not see you as any kind of a threat that they will treat you better
you will have to a great actor .....can you play this role?
you can't let anyone know , can you keep this to yourself?
i think that in the end you will see that even though this will be really really hard
in the end it will make you a much stronger person &
you will be able to get what you need to start a new life in the USA
best of luck
piglett

Lucky the nuns from the CFO in Cebu aren't reading this thread. She would have a tough time getting her CFO sticker.

Poor little girl...

I hope Gretchen and the parents did not change their minds about her coming here in the US now that they know EXACTLY HOW YOU ARE. Control freak and "knows-all" guy even if not in the proper place. It's your way of organizing things that doomed you and not the ways in the Philippines. And you expect people and your girl's family to bow down their heads on you just because you are "the man" that you think of yourself?
On the lighter note, congratulations for the interview success. Now, Gretchen's JOURNEY will begin. Goodluck...to Gretchen.

im sorry for this unsolicited comment.. sparky is right, it is not safe to pass money to your fiance in public, if there is no way to do it privately, you must learn how to do it very discretely, especially here in the phils... and i second, you should trust your fiance more with handling money..
and with your rant about the clinic's policy and the beggars, and all complains that irritates you about the Philippines.. please remind yourself that you are in a foreign country, PH is different from america, i know there are so many flaws in the Philippine system.. if you cannot embrace the things about the country, at least understand well that you are not in your homeland where you have access to what u need or exercise or over-exercise your rights.. im sorry but i just hate it when i see people complaining without even trying to understand the situation.. i acknowledge your disappointment but you could have reacted in a nicer way or you could have even went back to your hotel room while your girl is in the clinic since phones are not prohibited inside...
on a lighter note, this is why Filipinos are very patient and very understanding...
I guess the Philippines is just teaching you how to be more patient and more understanding and even more tolerating...
i just wish more than changing the system, you realize what you can learn while you have to deal with the system...

im sorry for this unsolicited comment.. sparky is right, it is not safe to pass money to your fiance in public, if there is no way to do it privately, you must learn how to do it very discretely, especially here in the phils... and i second, you should trust your fiance more with handling money..
and with your rant about the clinic's policy and the beggars, and all complains that irritates you about the Philippines.. please remind yourself that you are in a foreign country, PH is different from america, i know there are so many flaws in the Philippine system.. if you cannot embrace the things about the country, at least understand well that you are not in your homeland where you have access to what u need or exercise or over-exercise your rights.. im sorry but i just hate it when i see people complaining without even trying to understand the situation.. i acknowledge your disappointment but you could have reacted in a nicer way or you could have even went back to your hotel room while your girl is in the clinic since phones are not prohibited inside...
on a lighter note, this is why Filipinos are very patient and very understanding...
I guess the Philippines is just teaching you how to be more patient and more understanding and even more tolerating...
i just wish more than changing the system, you realize what you can learn while you have to deal with the system...

im sorry for this unsolicited comment.. sparky is right, it is not safe to pass money to your fiance in public, if there is no way to do it privately, you must learn how to do it very discretely, especially here in the phils... and i second, you should trust your fiance more with handling money..
and with your rant about the clinic's policy and the beggars, and all complains that irritates you about the Philippines.. please remind yourself that you are in a foreign country, PH is different from america, i know there are so many flaws in the Philippine system.. if you cannot embrace the things about the country, at least understand well that you are not in your homeland where you have access to what u need or exercise or over-exercise your rights.. im sorry but i just hate it when i see people complaining without even trying to understand the situation.. i acknowledge your disappointment but you could have reacted in a nicer way or you could have even went back to your hotel room while your girl is in the clinic since phones are not prohibited inside...
on a lighter note, this is why Filipinos are very patient and very understanding...
I guess the Philippines is just teaching you how to be more patient and more understanding and even more tolerating...
i just wish more than changing the system, you realize what you can learn while you have to deal with the system...

im sorry for this unsolicited comment.. sparky is right, it is not safe to pass money to your fiance in public, if there is no way to do it privately, you must learn how to do it very discretely, especially here in the phils... and i second, you should trust your fiance more with handling money..
and with your rant about the clinic's policy and the beggars, and all complains that irritates you about the Philippines.. please remind yourself that you are in a foreign country, PH is different from america, i know there are so many flaws in the Philippine system.. if you cannot embrace the things about the country, at least understand well that you are not in your homeland where you have access to what u need or exercise or over-exercise your rights.. im sorry but i just hate it when i see people complaining without even trying to understand the situation.. i acknowledge your disappointment but you could have reacted in a nicer way or you could have even went back to your hotel room while your girl is in the clinic since phones are not prohibited inside...
on a lighter note, this is why Filipinos are very patient and very understanding...
I guess the Philippines is just teaching you how to be more patient and more understanding and even more tolerating...
i just wish more than changing the system, you realize what you can learn while you have to deal with the system...

im sorry for this unsolicited comment.. sparky is right, it is not safe to pass money to your fiance in public, if there is no way to do it privately, you must learn how to do it very discretely, especially here in the phils... and i second, you should trust your fiance more with handling money..
and with your rant about the clinic's policy and the beggars, and all complains that irritates you about the Philippines.. please remind yourself that you are in a foreign country, PH is different from america, i know there are so many flaws in the Philippine system.. if you cannot embrace the things about the country, at least understand well that you are not in your homeland where you have access to what u need or exercise or over-exercise your rights.. im sorry but i just hate it when i see people complaining without even trying to understand the situation.. i acknowledge your disappointment but you could have reacted in a nicer way or you could have even went back to your hotel room while your girl is in the clinic since phones are not prohibited inside...
on a lighter note, this is why Filipinos are very patient and very understanding...
I guess the Philippines is just teaching you how to be more patient and more understanding and even more tolerating...
i just wish more than changing the system, you realize what you can learn while you have to deal with the system...

im sorry for this unsolicited comment.. sparky is right, it is not safe to pass money to your fiance in public, if there is no way to do it privately, you must learn how to do it very discretely, especially here in the phils... and i second, you should trust your fiance more with handling money..
and with your rant about the clinic's policy and the beggars, and all complains that irritates you about the Philippines.. please remind yourself that you are in a foreign country, PH is different from america, i know there are so many flaws in the Philippine system.. if you cannot embrace the things about the country, at least understand well that you are not in your homeland where you have access to what u need or exercise or over-exercise your rights.. im sorry but i just hate it when i see people complaining without even trying to understand the situation.. i acknowledge your disappointment but you could have reacted in a nicer way or you could have even went back to your hotel room while your girl is in the clinic since phones are not prohibited inside...
on a lighter note, this is why Filipinos are very patient and very understanding...
I guess the Philippines is just teaching you how to be more patient and more understanding and even more tolerating...
i just wish more than changing the system, you realize what you can learn while you have to deal with the system...

im sorry for this unsolicited comment.. sparky is right, it is not safe to pass money to your fiance in public, if there is no way to do it privately, you must learn how to do it very discretely, especially here in the phils... and i second, you should trust your fiance more with handling money..
and with your rant about the clinic's policy and the beggars, and all complains that irritates you about the Philippines.. please remind yourself that you are in a foreign country, PH is different from america, i know there are so many flaws in the Philippine system.. if you cannot embrace the things about the country, at least understand well that you are not in your homeland where you have access to what u need or exercise or over-exercise your rights.. im sorry but i just hate it when i see people complaining without even trying to understand the situation.. i acknowledge your disappointment but you could have reacted in a nicer way or you could have even went back to your hotel room while your girl is in the clinic since phones are not prohibited inside...
on a lighter note, this is why Filipinos are very patient and very understanding...
I guess the Philippines is just teaching you how to be more patient and more understanding and even more tolerating...
i just wish more than changing the system, you realize what you can learn while you have to deal with the system...

im sorry for this unsolicited comment.. sparky is right, it is not safe to pass money to your fiance in public, if there is no way to do it privately, you must learn how to do it very discretely, especially here in the phils... and i second, you should trust your fiance more with handling money..
and with your rant about the clinic's policy and the beggars, and all complains that irritates you about the Philippines.. please remind yourself that you are in a foreign country, PH is different from america, i know there are so many flaws in the Philippine system.. if you cannot embrace the things about the country, at least understand well that you are not in your homeland where you have access to what u need or exercise or over-exercise your rights.. im sorry but i just hate it when i see people complaining without even trying to understand the situation.. i acknowledge your disappointment but you could have reacted in a nicer way or you could have even went back to your hotel room while your girl is in the clinic since phones are not prohibited inside...
on a lighter note, this is why Filipinos are very patient and very understanding...
I guess the Philippines is just teaching you how to be more patient and more understanding and even more tolerating...
i just wish more than changing the system, you realize what you can learn while you have to deal with the system...

im sorry for this unsolicited comment.. sparky is right, it is not safe to pass money to your fiance in public, if there is no way to do it privately, you must learn how to do it very discretely, especially here in the phils... and i second, you should trust your fiance more with handling money..
and with your rant about the clinic's policy and the beggars, and all complains that irritates you about the Philippines.. please remind yourself that you are in a foreign country, PH is different from america, i know there are so many flaws in the Philippine system.. if you cannot embrace the things about the country, at least understand well that you are not in your homeland where you have access to what u need or exercise or over-exercise your rights.. im sorry but i just hate it when i see people complaining without even trying to understand the situation.. i acknowledge your disappointment but you could have reacted in a nicer way or you could have even went back to your hotel room while your girl is in the clinic since phones are not prohibited inside...
on a lighter note, this is why Filipinos are very patient and very understanding...
I guess the Philippines is just teaching you how to be more patient and more understanding and even more tolerating...
i just wish more than changing the system, you realize what you can learn while you have to deal with the system...