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We are preparing our AOS paperwork and the I-485 is asking about membership in any organization or communist party/affiliated membership since the age of 16. My wife is 37, was a Komsomol member until it (Komsomol) ceased to exist in the late 80's early 90's just before the FSU broke up. Back then it was difficult to get ahead in life, get into the University (as is her case) etc, without being involved in it.

I am curious of what sort of statement anyone else offered the USCIS during the application process when disclosing this information. I was thinking just a short sentance or two indicating the membership as part of getting into the University, and then it ceasing to exist which is truthful, and is historically correct.

Thanks


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04/19/2012: I-130 NOA2

05/04/2012: NVC Received

05/27/2012: Received I-864/DS 3032 Package

05/28/2012: Pay I-864 Bill

05/29/2012: Submit DS 3032/I-864

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Russia
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We wrote that my husband was in the Komsomol (Soviet youth organization) or some such.


February 3, 2005. Applied for K-1.

July 14, 2005. Email to NVC congressional unit

Nov 2, 2005. Letter to congressman

Nov 8, 2005. Letter from congressman

December 19, 2005. Visa interview in Moscow. (250 days at NVC)

January 27, 2006. POE: JFK.

April 8, 2006. Wedding in USA.

April 19, 2006. Apply for AOS.

July 12, 2006. AOS Interview.

February 26, 2008. Letter to congresswoman.

March 19, 2008. Conditional Permanent residence began!!

2009: Wake up and get on the uscis train again - lifting conditions

Dec 21, 2009. Eligible to apply to remove conditions

February 2010: 10-yr Green Card Received

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Shouldn't be a big deal. It was "normal" for young folks to be in Komsomol at that time.

Whatever you put down, be prepared to answer questions about it. If she lists what is historically accurate and then accounts for that during questioning at the interview, there should be no problems.


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Ensure your beneficiary makes and brings with them to the States a copy of the DS-3025 (vaccination form)

If the government is going to force me to exercise my "right" to health care, then they better start requiring people to exercise their Right to Bear Arms. - "Where's my public option rifle?"

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it's total lunacy to even mention Komsomol fact. it's the same as being asked "did you take deep breaths of soviet air while you were young?" lets find anybody there who didn't...

if you put this absolutely meaningless fact into your biography why not to mention "octyabryata" (former communist kid organization -100% population inclusive) and "pioneeres" (former communist teens organization also - 100% population inclusive). formally they are both communist party affiliated organizations. to get to Komsomol one needed to be a part of both...

the question can be related only to the decisions the person could actually made. like say, join the Coomunist Party itself would be one.

do not burden USCIS with meaningless information... it burdens itself enough...

obender

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There was a case about this back during the peak of the cold war. The holding was something like, forced membership into any organization was not a bar to naturalization.

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it's total lunacy to even mention Komsomol fact. it's the same as being asked "did you take deep breaths of soviet air while you were young?" lets find anybody there who didn't...

if you put this absolutely meaningless fact into your biography why not to mention "octyabryata" (former communist kid organization -100% population inclusive) and "pioneeres" (former communist teens organization also - 100% population inclusive). formally they are both communist party affiliated organizations. to get to Komsomol one needed to be a part of both...

the question can be related only to the decisions the person could actually made. like say, join the Coomunist Party itself would be one.

do not burden USCIS with meaningless information... it burdens itself enough...

obender

I agree with you whole heartedly but the "The Man is the Man" and if he is asking for information on groups you have been a member of since age 16, I feel that I'll take the secure route and not withhold facts. It is meaningless like you say, but it is also a requirement to give factual information. It would be our luck that we'd get an adjudicator with an axe to grind, having a bad day, or want's to ruin our day.


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11/01/2011: I-130 Submitted

11/04/2012: I-130 NOA1

04/19/2012: I-130 NOA2

05/04/2012: NVC Received

05/27/2012: Received I-864/DS 3032 Package

05/28/2012: Pay I-864 Bill

05/29/2012: Submit DS 3032/I-864

06/05/2012: Receive IV Bill online

06/05/2012: IV Bill Paid

06/06/2012: Payment Accepted

06/07/2012: IV Packet Mailed (Additional documents sent next day on 06/08/2012)

08/28/2012: Interview

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Sounds like you've already made your decision.


Русский форум член.

Ensure your beneficiary makes and brings with them to the States a copy of the DS-3025 (vaccination form)

If the government is going to force me to exercise my "right" to health care, then they better start requiring people to exercise their Right to Bear Arms. - "Where's my public option rifle?"

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Sounds like you've already made your decision.

Yep!

Actually I was wanting to know what verbage others had used. We'll keep it short and to the point.

Edited by etripke

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11/01/2011: I-130 Submitted

11/04/2012: I-130 NOA1

04/19/2012: I-130 NOA2

05/04/2012: NVC Received

05/27/2012: Received I-864/DS 3032 Package

05/28/2012: Pay I-864 Bill

05/29/2012: Submit DS 3032/I-864

06/05/2012: Receive IV Bill online

06/05/2012: IV Bill Paid

06/06/2012: Payment Accepted

06/07/2012: IV Packet Mailed (Additional documents sent next day on 06/08/2012)

08/28/2012: Interview

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As long as you do that, there should be no problems. Kind of a nonchalant "Yeah, I was in Komsomolsk. Who wasn't?"


Русский форум член.

Ensure your beneficiary makes and brings with them to the States a copy of the DS-3025 (vaccination form)

If the government is going to force me to exercise my "right" to health care, then they better start requiring people to exercise their Right to Bear Arms. - "Where's my public option rifle?"

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