Colombia Birth Certificate without witnesses

[JasonPF 0]

Hello all,

I submitted an I-130 for my stepson, who is Colombian.  I received an RFE that says "the birth certificate (Copia de Folio) submitted is not sufficient to establish the claimed relationship because there is no witness listed on the document and the back side of the document was not submitted."  The document is a Registro Civil de Nacimiento, and it does not have any witnesses listed.  My wife said that the hospital where he was born didn't write down any witnesses because both parents were present.  She also showed me the Registro Civil for her niece and that one also didn't have witnesses listed.

 

We also have a document called a Certificado de Nacido Vivo Antecedente Para El Registro Civil, which is a document created by the hospital, which contains the doctors name/cedula/etc and my wife's name, but not my son's name.  They use that document to register the Registro Civil.

 

My question is has anyone had this problem before?  We simply don't have a Registro Civil with witnesses and the Notaria can't give us one, and I doubt I'm the first person who has had this problem.  Does submitting the antecedent document with the doctor's information count as a witness?  I'm just really confused as to what documents are even accepted.  I googled "registro civil de nacimiento Colombia" and came across quite a few pictures of an RC and none of them had witnesses on it.

 

Thanks in advance.

[Rocio0010 5,579]

Time to check the Document reciprocity 

Civil documents by country

 

It seems that a “proper” bc has the name of the grandparents. That might be what they call “witnesses”. 

[JasonPF 0]

 

7 hours ago, Rocio0010 said:

Time to check the Document reciprocity 

Civil documents by country

 

It seems that a “proper” bc has the name of the grandparents. That might be what they call “witnesses”. 

That makes no sense.  What if his grandparents died before he was born?  Why would having living grandparents be required for anything?  The problem I'm having is there are so many conflicting pieces of information, and they are all wrong in different ways.  A Colombian birth certificate definitely doesn't include grandparents.  I've attached an example RC and you can google the term and find dozens of images.  They never have grandparents names and they don't even have a spot for that.  The RFE says the birth certificate must include a witness and:

* Be registered and issued by an appropriate civil authority in the country of birth

* Show the name of the child, date, and place of birth, and parent(s) names

* Show the doctor's and attendant's names, if applicable (This is wrong, a Registro Civil does not have a spot for doctor's name)

* Include the date of registration, seal of the issuing office, and signature of the registrar

 

The RFE includes a link to the reciprocity table, which says you need grandparent's names, which is also incorrect.  I guess I will write a letter explaining all this and hope for the best.

[Rocio0010 5,579]

25 minutes ago, JasonPF said:

 

That makes no sense.  What if his grandparents died before he was born?  Why would having living grandparents be required for anything?  The problem I'm having is there are so many conflicting pieces of information, and they are all wrong in different ways.  A Colombian birth certificate definitely doesn't include grandparents.  I've attached an example RC and you can google the term and find dozens of images.  They never have grandparents names and they don't even have a spot for that.  The RFE says the birth certificate must include a witness and:

* Be registered and issued by an appropriate civil authority in the country of birth

* Show the name of the child, date, and place of birth, and parent(s) names

* Show the doctor's and attendant's names, if applicable (This is wrong, a Registro Civil does not have a spot for doctor's name)

* Include the date of registration, seal of the issuing office, and signature of the registrar

 

The RFE includes a link to the reciprocity table, which says you need grandparent's names, which is also incorrect.  I guess I will write a letter explaining all this and hope for the best.

I know, don’t get mad at me! I’m just posting what I found. Argentinian and Colombian BC are similar, and I had a similar RFE. I was actually trying to help. Good luck!