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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Rwanda
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So my Rwandese husband spent three years as a college student in Kenya, and he needs a Certificate of Good Conduct (police clearance certificate). Fine.

There's plenty of information online about how to get one if you are no longer in Kenya. Most of the Kenyan embassies around the world have this information on their websites, and the one in the US even has an online form to fill out that you then sign and mail in with your fingerprints, taken at a local police station.

But the embassy in Rwanda is absolutely refusing to do their job in this matter. Even when my husband carried a printout of the directions from the CID in Nairobi, they said it was wrong. Their claim is that because he was never fingerprinted in Nairobi when he lived there, getting fingerprints now is useless because they have nothing to compare it to. Which is not the point at ALL.

The embassy in Rwanda doesn't even need to do anything other than accept my husband's fee payment and give him a receipt to send in to the CID with his fingerprints, but they refuse.

ARGH! At this point my husband has been to the embassy three times, and the official is only digging his heels in. He is NOT going to admit that he was wrong.

The Kenyan embassy in the US would possibly process my husband's certificate if there was no embassy in Rwanda, but because there is, they say it is that embassy's job. They say it's very simple and they don't know why the embassy in Rwanda won't do it.

The only good thing is that it isn't a huge hardship for my husband to go to Nairobi and apply for the certificate in person; it's a short and inexpensive flight. It's just a waste of time, money, and stress when there's absolutely no reason for it. I'm also worried that he'll get to Nairobi and run into trouble there. My husband is used to bureaucracy and people saying "no" or "come back tomorrow" and does what he's told, whereas I (being a pushy American) will fight back.

I want to call the CID in Nairobi and ask if there is another way for my husband to pay the fee from Rwanda, since the embassy won't do their job, but none of the phone numbers I can find are getting through... !!! It says you can mail a check instead of the receipt, but I don't know what kind of check he could get in Rwanda that would be honored in Kenya. And then there's the issue of how to pay for return postage.

I can see from searching VJ that lots of people have had trouble getting police certificates, especially from third countries. I wish I had realized what a headache this would be when we started the process, because we would have gotten going with the PCCs earlier. But when I looked online and it was so straightforward for Kenya, I didn't worry about it. I was more concerned that he might get a PCC and it would expire before the visa was issued, so we held off.

But if anyone has any other ideas please let me know... If only he lived in Malaysia or Japan or Germany (or here in the US!) the embassy would know what they were doing.

This is like trying to get married in Rwanda all over again... paperwork is a full time job!

12/14 Met at work in Rwanda

2/21/15 Became a couple

11/19/15 Married

11/23/15 I left Rwanda 

12/30/15 Mailed I-130

1/06/16 NOA1

5/03/16 NOA2!

5/06/16 NVC received case

5/20/16 Case number assigned

5/23/16 Email from NVC with case number

5/23/16 Choice of Agent filled out, AOS fee invoiced and paid

5/31/16 Called NVC, reviewed I-261 over the phone

6/02/16 IV bill invoiced and paid

7/28/16 Finally! All police clearances and birth certificate received; mailed IV and AOS; filed I-260

8/04/16 Official scan date (tracking shows "delivered" the day before)

8/15/16 Visiting my husband! 10 days

9/01/16 Received checklist in error, claiming our application was on hold because of a waiver application we never filed

9/02/16 Sent for supervisor review, six week timeframe given

9/13/16 Sent for "document review", whatever that is, told the timeframe is now indefinite

9/20/16 Contacted US Representative Adam Smith's office for assistance (WA)

9/26/16 3 N/As and Case Complete!

11/14/16 Interview: approved pending medical! (Vaccines hadn't been available)

11/19/16 Visa received in passport

12/09/16 POE Seattle

03/06/17 Green card received (address changed after POE, no problem)

5/2017 Our baby is due

Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Cyprus
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Sounds like a nightmare, sorry can't help, just sounds familiar to some of our paper chases.

Can you take an 'official embassy request' letter (they like it stamped) to the place and request it ?

Can you go higher up the ladder to speak to another supervisor ?

At one time we went all the way to the Minister of the Interior, unsuccessfully I might add, but perhaps you can

speak to a higher official.

Spoiler

 

I-129F Sent : 3-31-2014, NOA2: 4-6-2014

NVC Received : some dinkelsberry yehoo in the house of clingons send our petition to the wrong consulate.

Consulate Received : July 30,2014 Transfer to right embassy complete.

Interview Date : Oct 22, 2014

Interview Result : AP , requesting another PC (not expired) and certified divorce decree (was submitted)Stokes interview via phone for petitioner 4 hrs after interview.

Oct 23 email notification visa approved.
Visa Received : Nov. 3 , 2014 VISA IN HAND.

US Entry : Nov. 21, 2014

Marriage : Dec 27, 2014

AOS send : May 12, 2015, received May 14, 2015 USPS priority

Email &text : May 18, 2015, check cashed May 19,2015, return receipt May 21, 2015 stamped USCIS Lockbox, NOA1 (3x) May 22,2015

Biometrics : June 1, 2015 letter received for appointment June 8, 2015, successful walk-in June 1, 2015

RFE : June 12, 2015 for income not meeting guideline. Income does ( ! ) exceed guideline.

RFE response : June 26, 2015 returned with a boat load full of financial evidence.

UPDATE: July 5, 2015 updated on all 3 cases, RFE received June 30, 2015.

Service request : Aug 12, 2015, letter received that it will be processed within 90 days from receipt of RFE.

UPDATE: Aug 24, 2015, EAD card being produced/ordered. ( 102 days from AOS receipt day and 55 days from RFE response received.) Thank you Jesus !

Emails : Aug 24, 2015, EAD approved, EAD card ordered.

I-797 EAD/AP approval notice received : Aug 27, 2015

EAD/AP combo card mailed : Aug 27, 2015, EAD/AP combo card received: Aug 31, 2015

Renewal application send for EAD/AP : May 31,2016 (AOS pending over 1 year). Received June 2, 2016,Notice date June7, 2016, emails,texts, NOA1 hard copy

Service request for pending AOS April 21, 2016, case not assigned yet.
Service request for pending AOS June 14, 2016, tier 2 said performing background checks.
Expedite request for EAD/AP Aug 3, 2016, Aug10 notification >request was received, assigned, completed. RFE letter requesting evidence for expedite, docs faxed Aug18

*Service request for I-485 Aug 3, 2016, Aug11 notification> request was assigned. Service request Dec 2, 2016.
AOS Interview letter received Aug 12, 2016

AOS Interview September 21, 2016.

Second Biometrics appointment letters received for EAD and AOS on Aug 15, 2016 for Aug 17 ( 2 day notice).

Second Biometrics completed Aug 17, 2016

Third Biometrics appointment letter received Aug 19, 2016 for Sept. 1, 2016. WTH ?!

EAD/AP (renewal) approval Aug 22, 2016, NOA2 received Aug 25, 2016

Renewal EAD in production notification text and online, expedite successful 4 days after RFE request response was faxed, Aug25mailed,Aug29received.

Sept. 21 Interview, 2 hour interview, we were separated and asked about 50 questions each for an hour each. IO was firm but professional, some smiles.
Several service requests made, contacted Senator and Ombudsman. Background checks still pending.
July 21, 2017 HOME VISIT.  Went well. Topic thread in AOS forum.
Waiting to skip ROC and get 10 yr GC due to over 2 year while pending AOS
AOS APPROVED Oct. 4, 2017 * Green card in hand Oct 13, 2017 !!!!!

First K1 denied after 16 month of AP. Refiled. We are a couple since 2009. Not a sprint but a matter of endurance.

 

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Rwanda
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Update: my husband ended up going to Nairobi to get his Certificate of Good Conduct. Happily, they processed it without too much difficulty (he did have to go back to his school and get a letter confirming he was there, in addition to his diploma and transcripts... not sure what the point of that was). But because he applied in person, the CID says they can't mail his certificate to Rwanda, it has to be picked up in person! Love that bureaucracy. Luckily, an old friend is willing to pick it up and mail it. The CID said it would take 30 days. Here's hoping there are no more glitches.

12/14 Met at work in Rwanda

2/21/15 Became a couple

11/19/15 Married

11/23/15 I left Rwanda 

12/30/15 Mailed I-130

1/06/16 NOA1

5/03/16 NOA2!

5/06/16 NVC received case

5/20/16 Case number assigned

5/23/16 Email from NVC with case number

5/23/16 Choice of Agent filled out, AOS fee invoiced and paid

5/31/16 Called NVC, reviewed I-261 over the phone

6/02/16 IV bill invoiced and paid

7/28/16 Finally! All police clearances and birth certificate received; mailed IV and AOS; filed I-260

8/04/16 Official scan date (tracking shows "delivered" the day before)

8/15/16 Visiting my husband! 10 days

9/01/16 Received checklist in error, claiming our application was on hold because of a waiver application we never filed

9/02/16 Sent for supervisor review, six week timeframe given

9/13/16 Sent for "document review", whatever that is, told the timeframe is now indefinite

9/20/16 Contacted US Representative Adam Smith's office for assistance (WA)

9/26/16 3 N/As and Case Complete!

11/14/16 Interview: approved pending medical! (Vaccines hadn't been available)

11/19/16 Visa received in passport

12/09/16 POE Seattle

03/06/17 Green card received (address changed after POE, no problem)

5/2017 Our baby is due

 
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