i-134 waaaaaaaah

[Mark Collard 0]

me and my fiancee have been looking into the k1 now for some time, but have just realised that by the time we would submit the i-134 we wont meet the 125% poverty guidleine requirement. we have no one else who could sponsor, and must be together, so now as an alternative im looking in to becoming a student, then eventually applying for a k3.

anyone had similar experiences or know any other ways around this? or how to get into universities or know any other helpful sites??

any help greatly appreciated

[Jaylen Brit 0]

Where is your fiancee from?

I only ask because the London embassy sometimes permits self-sponsoring (I believe they are unique in this regard) if the foreign fiancee has a decent amount of cash that can be taken into the US.

[Mark Collard 0]

im from wales, united kingdom

she is from the us

[Jaylen Brit 0]

Its possible then u MIGHT be able to self-sponsor if you have a decent amount of money..the problem is London never say definite one way or the other which isn't helpful altho you could email them and ask LondonConsular@state.gov is the email; how far from the poverty line requirements is your USC fiancee? Really far? And You're both SURE you can't get a co-sponsor in the US? You know it can be anyone who's a resident right? Not just family members...

[Mark Collard 0]

yeh unfortunately we know

thnx for the help, although im not exactly wealthy myself

and a long way, not right now but by the time the time comes we will be

[Englishsammy 17]

so you mean you wanna be a student in the US? or in UK?

If you wanna be a student in the US it is expensive for us and probably kinda difficult to arrange - you'll need to prove you have enough money to support yourself whilst there etc......however I started a degree in England and went on an exchange to California (can do it for one or two semesters), this is pretty easy so long as you can do it as part of your course. Then you'll enter the states on a J1 visa and you can study there - I went Jan - July on my visa then went to canada and came back as a tourist till Sept. You can marry on this visa but you'll have to prove you didnt enter with intent to marry. You will still have to worry about sponsorship though because AOS requires it also (same 125% above poverty level etc)............there isn't really a solution to your sponsorship problem unless you find a co-sponsor (needed for K1,K3 and AOS).

Good luck

[Mark Collard 0]

yeh the problem being that my sponsor has enough now, wont have when we would have to have it, and would have it again by the time i finished being a student

to be a student in the us. im already in the uk

Edited March 14, 2006 by Mark Collard

[Englishsammy 17]

What year are you in??? can you not participate in an exchange??

[timinden 0]

The I-134 is 100% poverty line

The I-864 is 125% poverty line

[Mark Collard 0]

sry i-864 all these numbers and abbreviations get me confused

im not currently a student at all, its an avenue i was exploring to be near my fiancee since we dont have enough money for a k1 and i cant keep using the waiver program

[pax 0]

I don't really know how student visas work, but I cannot imagine you'll be able to finance both the student visa process itself and your stay in the States if you can't finance a K-1 now. And I believe you'd actually have to enroll in some kind of institution before you could even think about a student visa. Not to mention that if you let something slip about your American fiancee during your J-1 process, you might be denied that visa, too.

This is an expensive process no matter which way you slice it, unfortunately, but I don't think a student visa will be any faster, cheaper, or less complicated. I don't really see any way around a need for another sponsor here.

[Englishsammy 17]

Well, the student visa isn't expensive compared to K1 really - can't remember exactly but its about $100 for a form and then the £62 embassy fee - you also need to get to London etc. You do need to prove you can support yourself whilst there but its not that much (about $3000) and you can show student loan things to say that you'll be receiving it etc - I saved my student loan from the first year to, so I had enough easily.

However you'll need to find a course which permits this as part of the programme (I do international business studies), also you can't just pick which uni in the States you study in - I could pick out of about 5 all over the country, it depends which your university has links with etc. However, I am unsure if your denial will affect your attempts to study in the states. Exchange programmes don't take place until the second year anyway or maybe even third......so it won't be till 2007 at least till you can do this. The K1 process doesn't normally take that long so this isn't a good way to get round your future financial problems.

Like Pax says you could get denied the visa if they suspect you in anyway, because you have already been denied this might be a problem.

This still doesn't get you round the sponsorship problems.....you'll still need a sponsor for AOS like I said before.....

Could your girlfriend/fiance (sorry couldn't remember which!) not move to the UK?? This is a far easier process.....this way you could be together and in the future you could move back to the USA once you've established yourselves and are married etc.

[Yodrak 7]

Mark,

I'm curious - if you and your fiancee can't afford to meet the public charge provisions of US law, how can you afford to become a student? It may be fun to be in love, but it's no fun to be poor in the USA.

It seems to me that immigration requirements are the least of you problem. Things like food, clothing, and shelter come quickly to mind as being more significant. You may die of a broken heart if you and your fiancee can't be together soon, but you'll die much more quickly of malnutrition or exposure. The financial requirements for a visa and for immigration are there for a reason, and for your own good.

One way to get around the problem if you and she must live in the USA would be for your fiancee to get a job, or two if necessary.

Yodrak

me and my fiancee have been looking into the k1 now for some time, but have just realised that by the time we would submit the i-134 we wont meet the 125% poverty guidleine requirement. we have no one else who could sponsor, and must be together, so now as an alternative im looking in to becoming a student, then eventually applying for a k3.

anyone had similar experiences or know any other ways around this? or how to get into universities or know any other helpful sites??

any help greatly appreciated

[Mark Collard 0]

yeh i have money now, but for the k1 it matters not how much i have but my sponsor.

my sponsor has a job etc and easily meets the requirements now but wont come the time that it matters, just looking for ways around that issue

[Yodrak 7]

Mark,

Not true, as Jaylen Brit pointed out to you. A sponsor is not required for a non-immigrant visa unless the visa applicant does not have sufficient funds of their own. Admittedly, the idea of sufficiency is very subjective, but the US consulate in London has shown itself to be on the liberal side.

I see some things that sound possibly like inconsistencies in your posts in this thread. You say here that you have money, but you responded to Jaylen that you don't. Whichever, get yourself or your fiancee working and make some more money if you don't have enough. The issue is money - one needs to have money to live, let alone immigrate - and there's not getting around it.

Yodrak

yeh i have money now, but for the k1 it matters not how much i have but my sponsor.

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