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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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My husband (the sponsor), has been unemployed for a few years. He's spent most of this time taking care of his elderly grandmother, who he lives with (but is not a dependant of his). Do we mark him down as being unemployed or do we mark him as being self-employed as an elderly caretaker (as per this page, under Evidence of Income)? If we do mark him as self-employed as an elderly caretaker, do we just need a letter from his grandmother that proves this is what he does?

On our g-325a, we listed him as unemployed because we didn't know until now that being an elderly caretaker counted as a form of "self-employment" even though he doesn't make income from it.

Should I be listing him as unemployed, as per our g-325a or as self-employed as an elderly caretaker, since that is the most correct way of explaining his situation?

Thanks!

USCIS
11/03/2014: I-130 Package sent
11/06/2014: I-130 Package Delivered to Pheonix Lockbox
11/17/2014: NOA1 received
03/31/2015: Case approved by USCIS
04/09/2015: Case Was Sent To The Department of State for visa processing
04/14/2015: NOA2 (I-797) received in mail by applicant
NVC
04/28/2015: NVC Welcome Letter (PAOSF) with cover sheet for documents and invoice + case #.
04/30/2015: DS-261 filled out/submitted online
05/12/2015: AOS fee paid
05/26/2015: DS-261 accepted
05/25/2015: AOS Packet sent
05/29/2015: AOS Packet received by NVC
07/07/2015: IV Packet sent
07/13/2015: IV Packet received by NVC
07/14/2015: IV fee paid
07/16/2015: DS-260 Completed
08/29/2015: DS-260 and documents sent to supervisor for review
09/03/2015: Status letter issued (never received)
09/15/2015: Case Complete
Interview/Consulate
10/27/2015: Medical Exam
11/04/2015: Interview @ Montreal Consulate. Required medical results via mail.
11/13/2015: Medical mailed to Montreal Consulate through Loomis
11/16/2015: Medical delivered to Montreal Consulate

12/01/2015: Visa Issued
12/03/2015: Received Visa and IV Packet
12/10/2015: :PoE/Moving date

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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He was not. He lives in the same house as her and takes care of her.

USCIS
11/03/2014: I-130 Package sent
11/06/2014: I-130 Package Delivered to Pheonix Lockbox
11/17/2014: NOA1 received
03/31/2015: Case approved by USCIS
04/09/2015: Case Was Sent To The Department of State for visa processing
04/14/2015: NOA2 (I-797) received in mail by applicant
NVC
04/28/2015: NVC Welcome Letter (PAOSF) with cover sheet for documents and invoice + case #.
04/30/2015: DS-261 filled out/submitted online
05/12/2015: AOS fee paid
05/26/2015: DS-261 accepted
05/25/2015: AOS Packet sent
05/29/2015: AOS Packet received by NVC
07/07/2015: IV Packet sent
07/13/2015: IV Packet received by NVC
07/14/2015: IV fee paid
07/16/2015: DS-260 Completed
08/29/2015: DS-260 and documents sent to supervisor for review
09/03/2015: Status letter issued (never received)
09/15/2015: Case Complete
Interview/Consulate
10/27/2015: Medical Exam
11/04/2015: Interview @ Montreal Consulate. Required medical results via mail.
11/13/2015: Medical mailed to Montreal Consulate through Loomis
11/16/2015: Medical delivered to Montreal Consulate

12/01/2015: Visa Issued
12/03/2015: Received Visa and IV Packet
12/10/2015: :PoE/Moving date

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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does this section only count if you actually make income from it?

  • If you are currently self-employed in any of the following ways, you do not need to obtain submit evidence of income:
    • Babysitter, elderly caretaker, construction worker, handyperson, housekeeper, landlord, musician, nanny, seamstress, tailor, artist, or writer.

USCIS
11/03/2014: I-130 Package sent
11/06/2014: I-130 Package Delivered to Pheonix Lockbox
11/17/2014: NOA1 received
03/31/2015: Case approved by USCIS
04/09/2015: Case Was Sent To The Department of State for visa processing
04/14/2015: NOA2 (I-797) received in mail by applicant
NVC
04/28/2015: NVC Welcome Letter (PAOSF) with cover sheet for documents and invoice + case #.
04/30/2015: DS-261 filled out/submitted online
05/12/2015: AOS fee paid
05/26/2015: DS-261 accepted
05/25/2015: AOS Packet sent
05/29/2015: AOS Packet received by NVC
07/07/2015: IV Packet sent
07/13/2015: IV Packet received by NVC
07/14/2015: IV fee paid
07/16/2015: DS-260 Completed
08/29/2015: DS-260 and documents sent to supervisor for review
09/03/2015: Status letter issued (never received)
09/15/2015: Case Complete
Interview/Consulate
10/27/2015: Medical Exam
11/04/2015: Interview @ Montreal Consulate. Required medical results via mail.
11/13/2015: Medical mailed to Montreal Consulate through Loomis
11/16/2015: Medical delivered to Montreal Consulate

12/01/2015: Visa Issued
12/03/2015: Received Visa and IV Packet
12/10/2015: :PoE/Moving date

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Yes.


The only way a self-employed person proves current income is through their annual taxes. He wasn't making income, and wasn't filing taxes because of that.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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Yes.

The only way a self-employed person proves current income is through their annual taxes. He wasn't making income, and wasn't filing taxes because of that.

Thank you. That part on the NVC website is confusing if this is the case, since it says people of that category do not actually need to submit evidence of income. I had thought, because they mentioned not needing evidence of income, was because it was assumed no income was made.

USCIS
11/03/2014: I-130 Package sent
11/06/2014: I-130 Package Delivered to Pheonix Lockbox
11/17/2014: NOA1 received
03/31/2015: Case approved by USCIS
04/09/2015: Case Was Sent To The Department of State for visa processing
04/14/2015: NOA2 (I-797) received in mail by applicant
NVC
04/28/2015: NVC Welcome Letter (PAOSF) with cover sheet for documents and invoice + case #.
04/30/2015: DS-261 filled out/submitted online
05/12/2015: AOS fee paid
05/26/2015: DS-261 accepted
05/25/2015: AOS Packet sent
05/29/2015: AOS Packet received by NVC
07/07/2015: IV Packet sent
07/13/2015: IV Packet received by NVC
07/14/2015: IV fee paid
07/16/2015: DS-260 Completed
08/29/2015: DS-260 and documents sent to supervisor for review
09/03/2015: Status letter issued (never received)
09/15/2015: Case Complete
Interview/Consulate
10/27/2015: Medical Exam
11/04/2015: Interview @ Montreal Consulate. Required medical results via mail.
11/13/2015: Medical mailed to Montreal Consulate through Loomis
11/16/2015: Medical delivered to Montreal Consulate

12/01/2015: Visa Issued
12/03/2015: Received Visa and IV Packet
12/10/2015: :PoE/Moving date

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The US government often assumes that everyone knows things, that maybe only a small percentage of the people know. I only know because another VJ member, who no longer posts, explained it. He was VERY good with the I-864 questions!

You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose.  - Dr. Seuss

 

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The US government often assumes that everyone knows things, that maybe only a small percentage of the people know. I only know because another VJ member, who no longer posts, explained it. He was VERY good with the I-864 questions!

Ah! Well thank you so much! We'll definitely list him as unemployed. I read through so many posts on here and you're a very helpful member of the community and just want you to know that its very much appreciated. I'm sure a lot of us are super worked up over small things before you come along!

USCIS
11/03/2014: I-130 Package sent
11/06/2014: I-130 Package Delivered to Pheonix Lockbox
11/17/2014: NOA1 received
03/31/2015: Case approved by USCIS
04/09/2015: Case Was Sent To The Department of State for visa processing
04/14/2015: NOA2 (I-797) received in mail by applicant
NVC
04/28/2015: NVC Welcome Letter (PAOSF) with cover sheet for documents and invoice + case #.
04/30/2015: DS-261 filled out/submitted online
05/12/2015: AOS fee paid
05/26/2015: DS-261 accepted
05/25/2015: AOS Packet sent
05/29/2015: AOS Packet received by NVC
07/07/2015: IV Packet sent
07/13/2015: IV Packet received by NVC
07/14/2015: IV fee paid
07/16/2015: DS-260 Completed
08/29/2015: DS-260 and documents sent to supervisor for review
09/03/2015: Status letter issued (never received)
09/15/2015: Case Complete
Interview/Consulate
10/27/2015: Medical Exam
11/04/2015: Interview @ Montreal Consulate. Required medical results via mail.
11/13/2015: Medical mailed to Montreal Consulate through Loomis
11/16/2015: Medical delivered to Montreal Consulate

12/01/2015: Visa Issued
12/03/2015: Received Visa and IV Packet
12/10/2015: :PoE/Moving date

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Ah! Well thank you so much! We'll definitely list him as unemployed. I read through so many posts on here and you're a very helpful member of the community and just want you to know that its very much appreciated. I'm sure a lot of us are super worked up over small things before you come along!

Awe well thank you. I do try. I'm going through ROC at the moment and I'm sure I'll stick around until citizenship, should I decide I want to be a US citizen. (that's still up in the air...) We all get worked up about this stuff. I don't know anyone who didn't worry about it, except maybe my husband. LOL

You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose.  - Dr. Seuss

 

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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My husband (the sponsor), has been unemployed for a few years. He's spent most of this time taking care of his elderly grandmother, who he lives with (but is not a dependant of his). Do we mark him down as being unemployed or do we mark him as being self-employed as an elderly caretaker (as per this page, under Evidence of Income)? If we do mark him as self-employed as an elderly caretaker, do we just need a letter from his grandmother that proves this is what he does?

On our g-325a, we listed him as unemployed because we didn't know until now that being an elderly caretaker counted as a form of "self-employment" even though he doesn't make income from it.

Should I be listing him as unemployed, as per our g-325a or as self-employed as an elderly caretaker, since that is the most correct way of explaining his situation?

Thanks!

Since the petitioner hasn't worked (no proof of income from IRS), you have three ways to overcome i-864, someone can correct me if I'm missing something.

A) you find a joint sponsor with enough income

B) use assets of petitioner, if he has sufficient savings (3X poverty limit)

C) use assets of beneficiary, if you have sufficient savings (5X poverty limit)

if anybody has been successful with assets, pls share.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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Since the petitioner hasn't worked (no proof of income from IRS), you have three ways to overcome i-864, someone can correct me if I'm missing something.

A) you find a joint sponsor with enough income

B) use assets of petitioner, if he has sufficient savings (3X poverty limit)

C) use assets of beneficiary, if you have sufficient savings (5X poverty limit)

if anybody has been successful with assets, pls share.

Hey there! Thanks for your response but that was not the question I was asking. We have a joint sponsor.

USCIS
11/03/2014: I-130 Package sent
11/06/2014: I-130 Package Delivered to Pheonix Lockbox
11/17/2014: NOA1 received
03/31/2015: Case approved by USCIS
04/09/2015: Case Was Sent To The Department of State for visa processing
04/14/2015: NOA2 (I-797) received in mail by applicant
NVC
04/28/2015: NVC Welcome Letter (PAOSF) with cover sheet for documents and invoice + case #.
04/30/2015: DS-261 filled out/submitted online
05/12/2015: AOS fee paid
05/26/2015: DS-261 accepted
05/25/2015: AOS Packet sent
05/29/2015: AOS Packet received by NVC
07/07/2015: IV Packet sent
07/13/2015: IV Packet received by NVC
07/14/2015: IV fee paid
07/16/2015: DS-260 Completed
08/29/2015: DS-260 and documents sent to supervisor for review
09/03/2015: Status letter issued (never received)
09/15/2015: Case Complete
Interview/Consulate
10/27/2015: Medical Exam
11/04/2015: Interview @ Montreal Consulate. Required medical results via mail.
11/13/2015: Medical mailed to Montreal Consulate through Loomis
11/16/2015: Medical delivered to Montreal Consulate

12/01/2015: Visa Issued
12/03/2015: Received Visa and IV Packet
12/10/2015: :PoE/Moving date

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