Biometrics appointment in Hartford - please read below

[sherif23 2]

Hello fellow members on the final stage of your immigration journey

I am a December filer based out of CT ( Three year rule)

and I just go my finger print letter for next week. so glad the process is moving along

Anyone here with recent experience in Hartford?

my gripe is really on the finger print process, why do we go through it at every stage whether its I-485, I-130, I-751 and the N-400

Surely - the govt/FBI has access to all our records and can easily find out if we committed any disqualifying crimes between each application or at any point in time for that matter

just saying

[JimmyHou 613]

Hello fellow members on the final stage of your immigration journey

I am a December filer based out of CT ( Three year rule)

and I just go my finger print letter for next week. so glad the process is moving along

Anyone here with recent experience in Hartford?

my gripe is really on the finger print process, why do we go through it at every stage whether its I-485, I-130, I-751 and the N-400

Surely - the govt/FBI has access to all our records and can easily find out if we committed any disqualifying crimes between each application or at any point in time for that matter

just saying

Your fingerprints don't change And you're right the FBI does have access to all your records and they know if you have committed any disqualifying crimes Or they could look that up easily without making you go in for another fingerprint appointment. However a second purpose of the fingerprinting is to make sure that the person who filed the application is actually the person who they are claiming to be. Imagine a case for example where someone applies for naturalization using the green card of a relative who looks like them and who left to the United States. The only identity checks that are done during the entire process or the fingerprinting and the verification of the photo ID at the interview.

Of course they could just scan your fingerprints at your interview But who knows why the government does some of the things that it does!

Edited December 30, 2014 by JimmyHou

[sherif23 2]

Precisely -

the US embassy in Cairo, just scanned the finger print on the spot

so why the extra bureaucracy here

and if I follow that logic, then the finger print (FBI clearance stage) should only take days

[Tom_Jim 40]

Precisely -

the US embassy in Cairo, just scanned the finger print on the spot

so why the extra bureaucracy here

and if I follow that logic, then the finger print (FBI clearance stage) should only take days

Aside from verifying identity each step of the way, this is USCIS's way of collecting fees. Almost all the operational expenses for USCIS is funded by fees. Congress appropriates very little money (less than 2%) for USCIS's operational budget.

[JimmyHou 613]

Aside from verifying identity each step of the way, this is USCIS's way of collecting fees. Almost all the operational expenses for USCIS is funded by fees. Congress appropriates very little money (less than 2%) for USCIS's operational budget.

Actually the biometrics is probably the worst way for them to collect fees They outsource this to application support centers that are not run by USCIS employees. If they wanted to raise more money all they would have to do is increase the cost of the application from $680 to $1000 or to pretty much whatever they want.

[Tom_Jim 40]

Actually the biometrics is probably the worst way for them to collect fees They outsource this to application support centers that are not run by USCIS employees. If they wanted to raise more money all they would have to do is increase the cost of the application from $680 to $1000 or to pretty much whatever they want.

USCIS has scheduled fee increases implemented in their charter. Fees collected for ASC appointments are funneled directly to support USCIS and its mandate by congress - whether or not one believes it's the "worst way to collect fees".

[JimmyHou 613]

USCIS has scheduled fee increases implemented in their charter. Fees collected for ASC appointments are funneled directly to support USCIS and its mandate by congress - whether or not one believes it's the "worst way to collect fees".

I'm sorry, I didn't quite understand that. Aren't all the fees that we pay funneled to USCIS?

And don't some of the fees for biometrics have to go into paying the support staff who work in the ACSs (who are not part of the agency)?

Or else the money for the support centers has to come from somewhere else.

I think you're saying that the money for biometrics and the money for the n400 application are somehow treated differently I'm just trying to understand how. Thanks!

[Tom_Jim 40]

Sorry to confuse. Let me clarify: All fees attributed to applications utilizing the ASC (basically, all Forms) go to USCIS's treasury. From the master repository, they pay out all USCIS staff and third-party outsourcing. In other words, on the macro level, biometric fees contribute to USCIS's "master fund".

[JimmyHou 613]

Sorry to confuse. Let me clarify: All fees attributed to applications utilizing the ASC (basically, all Forms) go to USCIS's treasury. From the master repository, they pay out all USCIS staff and third-party outsourcing. In other words, on the macro level, biometric fees contribute to USCIS's "master fund".[/quote

Ah, ok. Thank you.