APNewsBreak: No 'stand down' order in Benghazi

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Seems that you people - you know who you are - can take off them tin foil hats now. Well, that would be so if facts and the real world would ever have any effect on you. I know they don't so you will keep yourself wrapped in that tin foil.

APNewsBreak: No 'stand down' order in Benghazi

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The testimony of nine military officers undermines contentions by Republican lawmakers that a "stand-down order" held back military assets that could have saved the U.S. ambassador and three other Americans killed at a diplomatic outpost and CIA annex in Benghazi, Libya.

The "stand-down" theory centers on a Special Operations team of four - a detachment leader, a medic, a communications expert and a weapons operator with his foot in a cast - who were stopped from flying from Tripoli to Benghazi after the attacks of Sept. 11-12, 2012, had ended. Instead, they were instructed to help protect and care for those being evacuated from Benghazi and from the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli.

The senior military officer who issued the instruction to "remain in place" and the detachment leader who received it said it was the right decision and has been widely mischaracterized. The order was to remain in Tripoli and protect some three dozen embassy personnel rather than fly to Benghazi some 600 miles away after all Americans there would have been evacuated. And the medic is credited with saving the life of an evacuee from the attacks.

Transcripts of hours of closed-door interviews with the military leaders by the House Armed Services and Oversight and Government Reform committees were made public for the first time on Wednesday. The Associated Press had reviewed the material ahead of its release.

Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., chairman of the Oversight panel, has suggested Hillary Rodham Clinton gave the order, though as secretary of state at the time, she was not in the military chain of command.

Despite lingering public confusion over many events that night, the testimony shows military leaders largely in agreement over how they responded to the attacks.

[mota bhai 2,675]

The Kenyan got to them too.

[UncleBeer 244]

So the military, who's under the direct command of the executive branch (and whose commanders have been decimated by said executive branch) dispute the story of the legislative branch. Exactly how does that not fit in neatly with the preznit's twisted narrative?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

The Kenyan got to them too.

You know it.

So the military, who's under the direct command of the executive branch (and whose commanders have been decimated by said executive branch) dispute the story of the legislative branch. Exactly how does that not fit in neatly with the preznit's twisted narrative?

Like I said:

Seems that you people - you know who you are - can take off them tin foil hats now. Well, that would be so if facts and the real world would ever have any effect on you. I know they don't so you will keep yourself wrapped in that tin foil.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Have a drink Gary.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Seems that you people - you know who you are - can take off them tin foil hats now. Well, that would be so if facts and the real world would ever have any effect on you. I know they don't so you will keep yourself wrapped in that tin foil.

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APNewsBreak: No 'stand down' order in Benghazi

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The testimony of nine military officers undermines contentions by Republican lawmakers that a "stand-down order" held back military assets that could have saved the U.S. ambassador and three other Americans killed at a diplomatic outpost and CIA annex in Benghazi, Libya.

The "stand-down" theory centers on a Special Operations team of four - a detachment leader, a medic, a communications expert and a weapons operator with his foot in a cast - who were stopped from flying from Tripoli to Benghazi after the attacks of Sept. 11-12, 2012, had ended. Instead, they were instructed to help protect and care for those being evacuated from Benghazi and from the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli.

The senior military officer who issued the instruction to "remain in place" and the detachment leader who received it said it was the right decision and has been widely mischaracterized. The order was to remain in Tripoli and protect some three dozen embassy personnel rather than fly to Benghazi some 600 miles away after all Americans there would have been evacuated. And the medic is credited with saving the life of an evacuee from the attacks.

Transcripts of hours of closed-door interviews with the military leaders by the House Armed Services and Oversight and Government Reform committees were made public for the first time on Wednesday. The Associated Press had reviewed the material ahead of its release.

Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., chairman of the Oversight panel, has suggested Hillary Rodham Clinton gave the order, though as secretary of state at the time, she was not in the military chain of command.

Despite lingering public confusion over many events that night, the testimony shows military leaders largely in agreement over how they responded to the attacks.

Odd the title of the story is "No Stand down order given" However the body of the story defends the order as the right decision.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Odd the title of the story is "No Stand down order given" However the body of the story defends the order as the right decision.

Okay, you apparently failed to grasp the essence of the right wing nutters conspiracy theory completely. Thanks for playing, though.

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

C. A meaningless one - liner since I have no good recourse.

But fer real dawgs, Snopes says nothing was hinky...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/benghazi.asp

Edited July 11, 2014 by DavenRoxy

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

C. A meaningless one - liner since I have no good recourse.

But fer real dawgs, Snopes says nothing was hinky...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/benghazi.asp

I think snopes has become a branch of MSNBC

[mota bhai 2,675]

I think snopes has become a branch of MSNBC

Yeah, the truth has a liberal bias.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

C. A meaningless one - liner since I have no good recourse.

Yes, that is indeed what I responded to - a meaningless one-liner offered by someone who apparently had no good recourse to the article that shatters the wing-nuts' hysterical conspiracy theories.

[JohnR! 5,495]

Seems that you people - you know who you are - can take off them tin foil hats now. Well, that would be so if facts and the real world would ever have any effect on you. I know they don't so you will keep yourself wrapped in that tin foil.

If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you...

Never underestimate the foilers....

[rlogan 2,036]

This kind of partisan squabbling on the deck of the Titanic demonstrates everything wrong with our two-party tweedle-dum and tweedle-dee system.

The whole context of invading Libya and incorporating it into our insane Middle East policy (if you can call it that) is what's wrong. Al-Qaeda is our mortal enemy, our ally, a reason for invading a place where it doesn't exist, or the people we need to "rescue" from a leader who doesn't kiss our feet... Iran is our mortal enemy today, and tomorrow they are our ally against the people who were our ally yesterday who will be our ally again tomorrow...

Edited July 11, 2014 by rlogan

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

That's geopolitics

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you...

Never underestimate the foilers....

C. I have no idea idea how to respond to the overwhelming facts you presented, so I will just deflect the issue and move on. This covers the tin foil hat stupidity

Edited July 11, 2014 by The Nature Boy