Another CFO Problem

[davenjanet 22]

Janet went to do her CFO in Manila yesterday. She had chat records and emails from 2012 and 2013 but the consul asked for records from 2011. We met online about November 1st 2011 and were not in a relationship till 2012 so there was no reason to keep chat logs. Nonetheless I did manage to find her original friend request of me from Cherry Blossoms and a couple other notes she sent me via the Cherry Blossoms system.

She says that in general the guy was very hard on her, particularly over the age gap issue.

Why would they care about chat logs from the time we first chatted and is there anything else I can do about it?

Edited July 18, 2013 by davenjanet

[Vic20r 14]

Wild guess about chat records for 2011 is because of the 2 year proof of meeting and ongoing relationship for K1..

I'm not a K1 but was asked if i know the age gap between me and my husband and during that time i attended my CFO in Cebu i was 32 and husband was 62..But, luckily they did not make it a big deal..just that one question..

Hope she's done with it though.

[Hank_ 9,174]

Janet went to do her CFO in Manila yesterday. She had chat records and emails from 2012 and 2013 but the consul asked for records from 2011. We met online about November 1st 2011 and were not in a relationship till 2012 so there was no reason to keep chat logs. Nonetheless I did manage to find her original friend request of me from Cherry Blossoms and a couple other notes she sent me via the Cherry Blossoms system.

She says that in general the guy was very hard on her, particularly over the age gap issue.

Why would they care about chat logs from the time we first chatted and is there anything else I can do about it?

CFO has for chat logs? Really?! Another twist...

[Hank_ 9,174]

Wild guess about chat records for 2011 is because of the 2 year proof of meeting and ongoing relationship for K1..

I'm not a K1 but was asked if i know the age gap between me and my husband and during that time i attended my CFO in Cebu i was 32 and husband was 62..But, luckily they did not make it a big deal..just that one question..

Hope she's done with it though.

USCIS requires having met in person within the past two years, so if they met last week that meets the requirement, but if its over 2 years since they met in person the are screwed. The embassy only wants proof of an ongoing relationship, no year(s) requirement.

Not sure what was up with CFO even asking for chat logs.... a new twist

[Kumi and Drake 14]

Janet went to do her CFO in Manila yesterday. She had chat records and emails from 2012 and 2013 but the consul asked for records from 2011. We met online about November 1st 2011 and were not in a relationship till 2012 so there was no reason to keep chat logs. Nonetheless I did manage to find her original friend request of me from Cherry Blossoms and a couple other notes she sent me via the Cherry Blossoms system.

She says that in general the guy was very hard on her, particularly over the age gap issue.

Why would they care about chat logs from the time we first chatted and is there anything else I can do about it?

Chat logs of your first chat? Why would they ask that? It's good you were able to find a chat log to back it up. Now my concern is if the CFO will do that to me and the rest of the people who will attend the seminar. We met in 2008 and the only thing I have is our private messages discussing anime stuff

Edited July 18, 2013 by Kumi and Drake

[DaveE 178]

I am a little confused, CFO does not have consuls. Sounds like her interview at the Embassy more than CFO

[davenjanet 22]

I am a little confused, CFO does not have consuls. Sounds like her interview at the Embassy more than CFO

Nope, she just got the terms confused.

The woman who interviewed her definitely intimidated her, took all the chat logs which she said she would read. They will meet again Monday.

I just encouraged Janet to act confident about our relationship.

If she is failed and has to do the CFO again, will they have records to indicate she already failed once?

[Hank_ 9,174]

I am sure they will be keeping a file.

Be confident, have the answers and for sure don't be shy.

[DaRoq 36]

Just curious - was she asked for the chat logs, or did she did she offer it to the Counselor?

[Hank_ 9,174]

Good question -

[Artisan 138]

The best thing to do these days is to prepare for your CFO seminar as if it was your Embassy interview. Any sort of nervous or timid behavior is going to be met with aggressive inquiries at the CFO.

[davenjanet 22]

Just curious - was she asked for the chat logs, or did she did she offer it to the Counselor?

I think she was asked for them and the woman said she would read them later; she also gave them pictures and phone records. I think Janet was stunned and intimidated, which is not her usual nature. I think she said the right things but was shy and unconfident in doing so.

From what I could gather the woman brought up age gap and whether Janet's family supports our marriage (which they do). I am trying to re-build Janet's confidence, since she meets the woman again on Monday and has her interview on Tuesday.

If it were me I would be a bit angry, and consider it my right to fall in love with and marry whomever I wish. I told Janet that I would look at such comments as insulting. But Janet is a Filipina, not a direct American. She needs to speak up confidently and I hope I can encourage her to do so.

Since she is meeting with the woman again Monday, I am considering sending a note to the woman from me. What do you guys think of that?

[cjmc 10]

I think that anything you can do to help your Fiancé and support her would be in your best interests. A letter from you that she might be able to read to the counselor explaining your relationship would certainly be a big help.

Good luck to both of you !!!!

cjmc

[davenjanet 22]

Here is the letter I wrote to CFO:

To Whom It May Concern:

My name is David Weisbord and I am Janet Pillazo's fiance. I understand from Janet that you are questioning the validity of our relationship and I wanted to address a few of the issues she told me.

I think that Janet may be a bit shy and intimidated by an authority figure. Therefore while she may give you accurate answers she may not feel she can come across in a way you might hope for. I have no such problem.

The basics: Janet and I met online late in 2011. We chatted casually a few times and spoke on camera several times. I thought she was a very sweet person but at that point I was taking things slowly. Therefore, with the exception of a few brief messages, I do not have any saved chats or long emails from 2011. We simply were not in a relationship at that time.

During the 1st half of 2012 we were becoming closer friends and getting to know each other. But it was not until July of 2012 that we began to seriously consider each other as potential partners. I decided to visit Janet and Janet alone in October of 2012. At that point I not only spent a wonderful time with Janet but traveled to meet her family in Alcoy, Cebu. She has a large family and they were all very nice to me and I was honored at the time they spent to get to know me.

By the time we met in October we certainly knew we were in love with each other. Her family asked when I would return and visit them again and I told them in April 2013. After our October trip we decided we wanted to spend our lives together and began putting together the documents needed to file for the K-1 Visa, which I did in January 2013. By this time we were planning our April trip, meeting with the parents, where I formally asked their permission to marry Janet.

While Janet and I were already engaged and the K-1 had been filed, I formally asked for her hand in marriage and presented her with an engagement ring when I returned in April. We met with her family which accepted me as her fiance, and then had a wonderful and fun week together traveling to Thailand.

We announced our engagement to all our friends, and posted engagement pics on Facebook. By the way, we were engaged at Lantaw Floating Island Restaurant in Mactan.

Our relationship: As you know I am older and therefore a bit cautious. But once I fall in love I am totally committed. I love Janet with all my heart and am committed to spending the rest of my life with her. She will join me here in the US, but once I retire we will spend lots of time in the Philippines and perhaps relocate there.

As to Janet's feelings for me, I have no doubt whatsoever that she loves me totally. For a year and a half she has been completely consistent in her feelings toward me. I am her first true partner and while I know she has had opportunities with others, I am honored that she chose me. I believe in her commitment toward me and know that she is a completely faithful partner.

I understand that you have a job to do. I also understand that some Filipinas may wish to emigrate abroad and get into relationships with Americans that may not be totally based on love. That is not the case with Janet!!

Yes, she is a mature young woman who has been looking for a mature man with whom she can form a stable relationship based on love and care. But please believe that our relationship is totally based on love. She is changing her life and giving up a great deal for me and I am honored she would choose to do so. Everyone who knows us knows that our relationship is genuine. My sister for example loves Janet and is very anxious to become sister in-laws.

Janet is in fact the most honest person I have ever known. You can trust what she says, as I do.

Thanks for reading this and getting to know Janet.

Sincerely,

David Weisbord

[cjmc 10]

Great job David..... !!!!! you convinced me !!!! :-)

Here is to your happy life forward and understanding bureaucrats .....

Cheers,

cjmc