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RFE? Already supplied but they want more?

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So we just got our hard copy of our RFE. They are asking for circumstances under which we met and established our relationship.No big deal. The form didn't specify so I explained each meeting of the previous 2 years. I wasn't (and they weren't) really clear. Easy fix :)

The thing that is making us worried is that we have supplied photos of us at each meeting, flight receipts that were only given to us via e-mail and itineraries. We have only 2 pictures of us together where they were time-stamped by the camera. I happen to do photography and I removed my time stamping feature long ago so editing them out later wouldn't be an issue. The 2 with stamps were from my fiance's camera that had been set aside so we could use my better camera. We have almost no photos of us together because we had no one to take pictures of us let alone with time-stamping. We took engagement pictures but again, no time-stamp. They are asking for more to prove we have met and I am scared we may not have what we need! Help! How can we prove it any more than we have! I'm scared >.<

Any suggestions? Miracles?

We can't print out actual receipts for a our flights because they are all e-mailed confirmations and we would print them but they have been removed from the place we booked online. The fiance is scanning passport pages with time stamps on them. Ugh. And more Ugh!


05/2008 : Met Online, 10/2008 : Began Serious Relationship, 07/2010 : First Visit!, 04/2011 : Second Visit!, 12/2011 : Third Visit!, 06/2012 : Fourth Visit!, 06/30/2012 : I Said 'YES!', 01/2013 : Fifth Visit!

12/26/2012 : I-129F Sent
01/03/2013 : NOA1
01/30/2013 : Touched (Change of Address on Your Case)

05/11/2013 : RFE e-Mail

05/18/2013 : RFE Hard Copy (Needed to provide story of how our relationship begun and proof of the fiancé being here.)

05/21/2013 : Mailed Back RFE (Sent our back story, passport scans and credit card statements showing the fiancé was in my city.)

05/29/2013 : RFE Response Received (e-mail)

06/04/2013 : Touched (Name Updated on Your Case) 12:30 PM

06/04/2013 : NAO2 - Approved! e-mail 10:30 PM

06/08/2013 : NAO2 Hard Copy

07/01/2013 : NVC Assigned Case Number

07/03/2013 : NVC Mailed Case to Sydney Consulate (Tracked on DHL Site)

07/08/2013 : Sydney Consulate Receives Case

07/08/2013 : Packet 3 Received (e-mail)

07/18/2013 : Medical Appointment in Brisbane

07/23/2013 : Sent Off Packet 3

08/07/2013 : Interview Date e-Mail

08/20/2013 : Interview Date at Sydney Consulate

08/20/2013 : Approved! Pending I-134 With Pen Signature

08/26/2013 : E-Mailed Pen Signed I-134 (The original never arrived sad.png so a new one was express mailed directly to the consulate in Sydney)

09/06/2013 : E-Mail stating that they needed more proof of assets

09/07/2013 : E-Mailed Proof of Assets (Again...)

09/16/2013 : Touched

09/17/2013 : Touched

09/18/2013 : Touched

09/19/2013 : Touched (Yes...4 days in a row O.O)

09/20/2013 : Informed that we need more proof of assets! (Like I'm hiding mounds of treasure somewhere? Grr...)

09/24/2013 : Sent another sponsor packet from my Mother

09/25/2013 : Touched

09/26/2013 : Touched

09/27/2013 : E-Mail saying the Visa has been sent!

09/30/2013 : Received Visa in the mail!

10/04/2013 : Flight to ND!

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Passport stamps are your biggest help, as they are the best proof that you were in the same country together with no doubts. Focus on things that like that really can't be faked.

Please don't stress too much about the pictures -- they're nice to include as secondary evidence but you don't need more than a few (2-3) at all, as long as you have the other evidence. (Do be aware that you can add the time-stamps in any photo-editing program or simply write them on the back -- USCIS doesn't really require the burnt-in time stamp on a negative or anything like that. All I did for my photos was put captions underneath stating the full date and location and names of people in the photos, and write the same information in sharpie-pen on the back side. No RFE.)

But consider finding other types of hard evidence as well -- perhaps credit card statements showing purchases made in the same town at the same time period. ATM withdrawals -- I printed my bank statement from the month I spent with my fiance and circled the ATM withdrawals I made in his town.

However, in re-reading your post, it might be helpful if you post the actual wording of the RFE. Something strikes a warning bell: you say they ask for "circumstances under which we met and established our relationship" -- they MIGHT be asking how you initially encountered each other. Was it online, a website somewhere, did you study together, were you introduced by family friends, what? Have you explained how you first met your fiance, in addition to your physical presence with him? You do need to explain BOTH how you initially got to know each other, as well as provide proof of meeting in person in the last two years. Make sure you've covered both of those and you should be ok!


Relationship since April 2006

K-1 Visa: I-129F filed November 6, 2012, NOA2 May 17, 2013, Interview and Approval July 24, 2013

POE San Diego, September 13, 2013, Wedding October 25, 2013

AOS filed November 19, 2013, EAD/AP received January 30, 2014, interview and AOS Approval on February 27, 2014.

ROC filed December 3, 2015, NOA1 12/4/15, Biometrics 12/31/15, ROC Approval on June 16, 2016, 10-Year Green Card received June 22, 2016.

No RFE at any stage, thanks to VisaJourney!

Detailed Timeline Below!

Relationship:
2006 April 01: Met online, music site
2007 February 20: Met in person, Finland
2007 - 2012 met several times in Finland and California

K-1 Visa:
2012 November 06: Sent I-129F (NOA1 on 11/9/2012)
2013 May 14: Contacted Congressman
2013 May 17: I-129F NOA2 Approved
2013 June 03: NVC Received (NVC left 6/6/13)
2013 June 10: Consulate Received
2013 June 13: Medical
2013 June 25: Sent Packet 3/4
2013 July 24: Interview in Helsinki
2013 July 27: Visa Received
2013 September 13: POE to USA, San Diego

AOS:
2013 October 22: SSN Received
2013 October 25: Wedding, San Marcos, CA
2013 November 19: AOS, AP, EAD sent (NOA 1 on 11/22/13)
2013 December 17: Biometrics, San Marcos, CA
2013 December 24: Online status changed to Testing/Interview

2014 January 23: Interview notice mailed (for 2/27)

2014 January 24: EAD card production, AP approval (card received 1/30/2014)

2014 February 27: Interview and Approval, GC in production (card received March 6, 2014)

ROC:

2015 December 03: mailed I-751 package

2015 December 04: NOA1 extension letter

2015 December 31: Biometrics appointment

2016 June 16: Approval - Online status changed to Document Production, mailed 6/20/16

2016 June 22: 10-Year Green Card Received, done with USCIS for a while!

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The passports stamps along with the itineraries matching the date should be fine. If you still have boarding passes, that's even better than the itineraries They are probably looking for the passport stamps.

Do you have any receipts from the trips? Cash machines, hotels, anything like that? All of these are better than time stamped photos. I sent in photos and only wrote the names, locations, and dates on the back of those photos and they were okay. But I also included the passport stamps and itineraries. Only some of the boarding passes because I didn't have them all.

Remember, you only need to prove with primary evidence that you've met over the past two years. The pictures are considered secondary evidence.

It also sounds like they are asking for a statement from you of how you and your fiance met. Online? Through friends? At school? Whatever, just a statement about how and when you met and started dating.

EDIT: I see Lynkali posted while I was typing, and said pretty much the same thing :)

Edited by jenafid

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Thank you for the responses!

It does say, 'Submit information regarding the circumstances under which the petitioner and beneficiary met to establish the relationship.' I am okay with that one. I only explained the meetings within the last 2 years. The question didn't ask about establishing a relationship on the original I-129F. I can whip that up for them easy-peasy!

I told the fiance to e-mail me credit card statements to print out and I will highlight the dates and places on them. He scanned all of his passport pages and will e-mail them to me as well so I can print and send them. I think I may be okay now. Moment of panic!!! Lol! I just felt we sent so many things that the answer would be so much more complicated! It seems easy now that I see the answers you've given me :) Sometimes it's the reassurance that makes it feel better to move forward.

He is calling banks tomorrow to get copies mailed/e-mailed to him to get to me.

These letters are so intimidating!


05/2008 : Met Online, 10/2008 : Began Serious Relationship, 07/2010 : First Visit!, 04/2011 : Second Visit!, 12/2011 : Third Visit!, 06/2012 : Fourth Visit!, 06/30/2012 : I Said 'YES!', 01/2013 : Fifth Visit!

12/26/2012 : I-129F Sent
01/03/2013 : NOA1
01/30/2013 : Touched (Change of Address on Your Case)

05/11/2013 : RFE e-Mail

05/18/2013 : RFE Hard Copy (Needed to provide story of how our relationship begun and proof of the fiancé being here.)

05/21/2013 : Mailed Back RFE (Sent our back story, passport scans and credit card statements showing the fiancé was in my city.)

05/29/2013 : RFE Response Received (e-mail)

06/04/2013 : Touched (Name Updated on Your Case) 12:30 PM

06/04/2013 : NAO2 - Approved! e-mail 10:30 PM

06/08/2013 : NAO2 Hard Copy

07/01/2013 : NVC Assigned Case Number

07/03/2013 : NVC Mailed Case to Sydney Consulate (Tracked on DHL Site)

07/08/2013 : Sydney Consulate Receives Case

07/08/2013 : Packet 3 Received (e-mail)

07/18/2013 : Medical Appointment in Brisbane

07/23/2013 : Sent Off Packet 3

08/07/2013 : Interview Date e-Mail

08/20/2013 : Interview Date at Sydney Consulate

08/20/2013 : Approved! Pending I-134 With Pen Signature

08/26/2013 : E-Mailed Pen Signed I-134 (The original never arrived sad.png so a new one was express mailed directly to the consulate in Sydney)

09/06/2013 : E-Mail stating that they needed more proof of assets

09/07/2013 : E-Mailed Proof of Assets (Again...)

09/16/2013 : Touched

09/17/2013 : Touched

09/18/2013 : Touched

09/19/2013 : Touched (Yes...4 days in a row O.O)

09/20/2013 : Informed that we need more proof of assets! (Like I'm hiding mounds of treasure somewhere? Grr...)

09/24/2013 : Sent another sponsor packet from my Mother

09/25/2013 : Touched

09/26/2013 : Touched

09/27/2013 : E-Mail saying the Visa has been sent!

09/30/2013 : Received Visa in the mail!

10/04/2013 : Flight to ND!

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Moments of panic happen. You'll be alright. The great thing about a RFE is that it tells you exactly what they need from you in order to approve the petition. You're almost done with this stage!

Thank goodness!!!!!!! You guys are pretty awesome. Just in case no one told you! <3 VJ!


05/2008 : Met Online, 10/2008 : Began Serious Relationship, 07/2010 : First Visit!, 04/2011 : Second Visit!, 12/2011 : Third Visit!, 06/2012 : Fourth Visit!, 06/30/2012 : I Said 'YES!', 01/2013 : Fifth Visit!

12/26/2012 : I-129F Sent
01/03/2013 : NOA1
01/30/2013 : Touched (Change of Address on Your Case)

05/11/2013 : RFE e-Mail

05/18/2013 : RFE Hard Copy (Needed to provide story of how our relationship begun and proof of the fiancé being here.)

05/21/2013 : Mailed Back RFE (Sent our back story, passport scans and credit card statements showing the fiancé was in my city.)

05/29/2013 : RFE Response Received (e-mail)

06/04/2013 : Touched (Name Updated on Your Case) 12:30 PM

06/04/2013 : NAO2 - Approved! e-mail 10:30 PM

06/08/2013 : NAO2 Hard Copy

07/01/2013 : NVC Assigned Case Number

07/03/2013 : NVC Mailed Case to Sydney Consulate (Tracked on DHL Site)

07/08/2013 : Sydney Consulate Receives Case

07/08/2013 : Packet 3 Received (e-mail)

07/18/2013 : Medical Appointment in Brisbane

07/23/2013 : Sent Off Packet 3

08/07/2013 : Interview Date e-Mail

08/20/2013 : Interview Date at Sydney Consulate

08/20/2013 : Approved! Pending I-134 With Pen Signature

08/26/2013 : E-Mailed Pen Signed I-134 (The original never arrived sad.png so a new one was express mailed directly to the consulate in Sydney)

09/06/2013 : E-Mail stating that they needed more proof of assets

09/07/2013 : E-Mailed Proof of Assets (Again...)

09/16/2013 : Touched

09/17/2013 : Touched

09/18/2013 : Touched

09/19/2013 : Touched (Yes...4 days in a row O.O)

09/20/2013 : Informed that we need more proof of assets! (Like I'm hiding mounds of treasure somewhere? Grr...)

09/24/2013 : Sent another sponsor packet from my Mother

09/25/2013 : Touched

09/26/2013 : Touched

09/27/2013 : E-Mail saying the Visa has been sent!

09/30/2013 : Received Visa in the mail!

10/04/2013 : Flight to ND!

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