OBAMA THROWS A FIT

[GandD 5,966]

Lets say u force everyone to do the background check - someone tries to purchase a gun and is rejected at the gunshow.

What next?

You think this person is not going to purchase and a gun and is not going to find someone who would be willing to sell him a gun?

Or steal one

[Harsh_77 716]

Or steal one

It can be stolen today as well, guns used by Adam Lanza were stolen, previous one where guy shoot ppl in mall had stolen the gun from his friend.

[GandD 5,966]

It can be stolen today as well, guns used by Adam Lanza were stolen, previous one where guy shoot ppl in mall had stolen the gun from his friend.

Yes. So the only way to reduce the violence is to reduce the guns. Cus people can go around law. They can't get around something not existing.

[Harsh_77 716]

Yes. So the only way to reduce the violence is to reduce the guns. Cus people can go around law. They can't get around something not existing.

What are you going to ban next?

ppl with mental problem will find one or another way, so why not the address the main issue of mental health?

[SMOKE 1,426]

What are you going to ban next?

ppl with mental problem will find one or another way, so why not the address the main issue of mental health?

oh wouldn't that be different. actually try to find a solution to the problem.

Edited April 18, 2013 by SMOKE

[decocker 7,198]

What are you going to ban next?

ppl with mental problem will find one or another way, so why not the address the main issue of mental health?

there are already ratings systems in place for video games. calm down.

[GandD 5,966]

What are you going to ban next?

ppl with mental problem will find one or another way, so why not the address the main issue of mental health?

Well, I didn't mention banning anything. I'd like to the the states move toward producing less guns than they are. It would be a good start and an appropriate response to the increasing amounts of gun related deaths. Its not a fix all solution but I don't believe that type of solution exists.

Psychology is no where near "fixing" mental health issues. There are hundreds, perhaps thousands of different mental discrepancies from person to person so I don't count this as a real option. I mean, I guess ideologically, sure, if "crazy" didn't exist, guns wouldn't be used to murder people in the fashion they were used in the Newtown incident. But, there's no way to correct this on a global scale, nor will there be in the immediate future.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

It can be stolen today as well, guns used by Adam Lanza were stolen, previous one where guy shoot ppl in mall had stolen the gun from his friend.

The guns were not "stolen", they were household items, much like toothbrushes.

http://robertcargill.com/2012/12/17/the-guns-adam-lanza-used-to-kill-sandy-hook-elementary-school-children-were-not-stolen/

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Really are you serious man?

You think they love the criminals and nutjobs?

Their actions say they do.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Their actions say they do.

It is the only reason they don't want a national registry: To protect the guilty.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Lets say u force everyone to do the background check - someone tries to purchase a gun and is rejected at the gunshow.

What next?

You think this person is not going to purchase and a gun and is not going to find someone who would be willing to sell him a gun?

Selling a gun to that person would be against the law. No seller could say "oops, I didn't know". True, people will break laws but today guns are sold to criminals and the seller isn't actually breaking any law. Which is why you have a large number of sellers willing to sell to criminals. Which is why criminals have no problem finding a seller. Which is the problem at hand. Every gun illegally owned by a criminal was once legally purchased and owned. And just to preempt any such nonsense, don't tell me that all the guns illegally owned by criminals were stolen from law abiding gun owners. Most of them were sold to criminals by people legally able to acquire them.

[Harsh_77 716]

The guns were not "stolen", they were household items, much like toothbrushes.

http://robertcargill.com/2012/12/17/the-guns-adam-lanza-used-to-kill-sandy-hook-elementary-school-children-were-not-stolen/

Really someone please get tin foil............ household items lol

Selling a gun to that person would be against the law. No seller could say "oops, I didn't know". True, people will break laws but today guns are sold to criminals and the seller isn't actually breaking any law. Which is why you have a large number of sellers willing to sell to criminals. Which is why criminals have no problem finding a seller. Which is the problem at hand. Every gun illegally owned by a criminal was once legally purchased and owned. And just to preempt any such nonsense, don't tell me that all the guns illegally owned by criminals were stolen from law abiding gun owners. Most of them were sold to criminals by people legally able to acquire them.

Exactly now you got it - there are 77,000 individuals who broke the law and there was no action taken by this same administration who wants more regulation.

[Harsh_77 716]

It is the only reason they don't want a national registry: To protect the guilty.

Why do you need one?

This has been heard over and over if you are not guilty you dont have to worry about it.

Their actions say they do.

Just coz they did not go the way you feel they should does not mean they support criminals.

You are in free country just coz few bunch of ppl want something does not mean the whole lot of ppl have to give in into it.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Really someone please get tin foil.

Here you go:

Why do you need one?

To put the guilty in jail.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Exactly now you got it - there are 77,000 individuals who broke the law and there was no action taken by this same administration who wants more regulation.

And yet, these individuals all could buy a gun online or from a private seller at a gun show no questions asked. That is what the Manchin-Toomey compromise sought to stop bu the NRA and a minority of Senators enslaved to the NRA felt it more important to protect the criminals' abundant firearm supply.