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Hello all,

My hubby just made the trip from Manchester to London to get a notarized copy of his passport so that I can obtain ITIN for my income taxes. THe man there refused to do it, was very short with him and stated that it was NOT needed for my taxes. He told my hubby that I am supposed to send him the form for the ITIN, he then fills it out, and then sends it on to the embassy by mail, the ebassy notarizes the form and sends it back to him (hubby)... THEN he is supposed to send it back to me. Is this right? The same man told my hubby, "I don't see why your wife has to put you on her taxes." We married in Nov., he was here for 5 weeks, returned to the UK, we are waiting to start the k3 process in a few months.

I need some help. I have been to the IRS web site, and thot I had it all sorted out. Anyone run into this at the embassy in London?

Thank so much!

Gotz

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I've never heard of trying to get a passport notorized. What would they be validating?

Opps, this post was written after a 12 hour shift..

I was under the impression that I needed a notarized copy of the passport. I am really confused, this tax issue is making me nuts. I thot someone here might be able help clear things up.

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I went to US embassy in Indonesia last year and they notarized my copy of passport. Yes, it was to apply for ITIN too. It was no problem

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Did he try contacting the IRS office?

If you are a taxpayer who lives outside the United States, the IRS has full-time permanent staff in 4 U.S. embassies and consulates.

United States Embassy/IRS

24/31 Grosvenor Square

London W1A 1AE UK

Walk-In assistance 9:00 a.m.- 4:00 p.m. (Tuesday through Thursday)

Tel: [44] (207)408-8077

(9 a.m. to Noon. Monday through Friday)

FAX: +44-207-495-4224

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Did he try contacting the IRS office?

If you are a taxpayer who lives outside the United States, the IRS has full-time permanent staff in 4 U.S. embassies and consulates.

United States Embassy/IRS

24/31 Grosvenor Square

London W1A 1AE UK

Walk-In assistance 9:00 a.m.- 4:00 p.m. (Tuesday through Thursday)

Tel: [44] (207)408-8077

(9 a.m. to Noon. Monday through Friday)

FAX: +44-207-495-4224

Thank you for your response. The embassy sent him to the IRS office there in London and the man there told my hubby I had to send the W-7 completely filled out to to him in Manchester, and once the form arrived in England it had to be sent on to the office in London along with hubby's passport. The whole thing would then be notarized sent back to hubby, then on to me here in the US. Is that crazy or what?? He even gave hubby a W-7 form to send to me. I am like DUH, I have all that.. what is needed is the notarized copy of the passport. I am so so frustrated.

Here I am thinking, getting the copy notarized.. a fairly straight forward procedure. If I had known that I needed a copy for myself, would have obtained a notarized copy b4 his return to the UK last month.

Meant to tell ya, MD, hubby is a huge Manchester United fan!!

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We had to get a ITIN number for our kids and I just had a notary put her stamp on the copy of their passports and write "this is a true and correct copy".


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We had to get a ITIN number for our kids and I just had a notary put her stamp on the copy of their passports and write "this is a true and correct copy".

Wow, ya learn something new every day!


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My husband went to file his tax's and was told he needed either a ssn for myself and the children or ITIN numbers. Well i cant get a SSN until my EAD is approved and comes through so how do i go about getting the other information, do i call the ITIN number posted earlier will they beable to help?


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I know the answer now to my question so no replies needed

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May/06/08............NOA1 from Vermont

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Hello all,

My hubby just made the trip from Manchester to London to get a notarized copy of his passport so that I can obtain ITIN for my income taxes. THe man there refused to do it, was very short with him and stated that it was NOT needed for my taxes. He told my hubby that I am supposed to send him the form for the ITIN, he then fills it out, and then sends it on to the embassy by mail, the ebassy notarizes the form and sends it back to him (hubby)... THEN he is supposed to send it back to me. Is this right? The same man told my hubby, "I don't see why your wife has to put you on her taxes." We married in Nov., he was here for 5 weeks, returned to the UK, we are waiting to start the k3 process in a few months.

I need some help. I have been to the IRS web site, and thot I had it all sorted out. Anyone run into this at the embassy in London?

Thank so much!

Gotz

Hi Gotz. I'm the USC and I filed my taxes from NZ with the W7 for my husband. What we did was get a copy of his passport ID page notarized by a NZ notary which is acceptable according to the Instructions for the W7. Then I sent that and a photocopy of his birth certificate with my tax form & the W7. He got his ITIN back very quickly. I don't see why that wouldn't work for you as well.

Also reading the W7 instructions for what documents can be submitted for proving your husband's ID, you can see that if you submit a notarized copy of his passport you don't need anything else, but if you don't have that, IRS will accept copies of two other forms of ID, which can be: National Identification Card, Foreign Driver's License, Foreign Voter's Registration Card or Foreign Military Identification Card. Also, please note that Foreign Notaries are acceptable as outlined under the Hague Convention (this includes the UK) So your husband could get a UK notary to notarize a copy of his passport (get a couple while he's at it) send it to you and you send in to IRS your tax form, the W7 that he signs and his UK notarized passport copy.

HTH :)


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Hi Gotz. I'm the USC and I filed my taxes from NZ with the W7 for my husband. What we did was get a copy of his passport ID page notarized by a NZ notary which is acceptable according to the Instructions for the W7. Then I sent that and a photocopy of his birth certificate with my tax form & the W7. He got his ITIN back very quickly. I don't see why that wouldn't work for you as well.

Also reading the W7 instructions for what documents can be submitted for proving your husband's ID, you can see that if you submit a notarized copy of his passport you don't need anything else, but if you don't have that, IRS will accept copies of two other forms of ID, which can be: National Identification Card, Foreign Driver's License, Foreign Voter's Registration Card or Foreign Military Identification Card. Also, please note that Foreign Notaries are acceptable as outlined under the Hague Convention (this includes the UK) So your husband could get a UK notary to notarize a copy of his passport (get a couple while he's at it) send it to you and you send in to IRS your tax form, the W7 that he signs and his UK notarized passport copy.

HTH :)

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That's the best explanation I've seen for this issue!!! Very helpful :)


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Hi Gotz. I'm the USC and I filed my taxes from NZ with the W7 for my husband. What we did was get a copy of his passport ID page notarized by a NZ notary which is acceptable according to the Instructions for the W7. Then I sent that and a photocopy of his birth certificate with my tax form & the W7. He got his ITIN back very quickly. I don't see why that wouldn't work for you as well.

Also reading the W7 instructions for what documents can be submitted for proving your husband's ID, you can see that if you submit a notarized copy of his passport you don't need anything else, but if you don't have that, IRS will accept copies of two other forms of ID, which can be: National Identification Card, Foreign Driver's License, Foreign Voter's Registration Card or Foreign Military Identification Card. Also, please note that Foreign Notaries are acceptable as outlined under the Hague Convention (this includes the UK) So your husband could get a UK notary to notarize a copy of his passport (get a couple while he's at it) send it to you and you send in to IRS your tax form, the W7 that he signs and his UK notarized passport copy.

HTH :)

:star: Gold star for you, sadie! :star:

That's the best explanation I've seen for this issue!!! Very helpful :)

We submitted a copy of my wifes passport notarised by a UK notary and they rejected it! It seems that the rules have been changed as an anti-terrorist measure (so they say), and only US notaries are accepted. We don't yet know how to move forward on this; we don't want to travel to London specially

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