Gun Enthusiast With Popular Online Videos Is Shot to Death in Georgia

[himher 634]

That's what I fckn thought. Noticed your silence on the gun ownership vs. murder rate also.

You color pictures really well. Maybe you should spend your spare time coloring.

[himher 634]

Massachusetts: Where one can't buy maple syrup or cheese but a good place to get raped, robbed, or stabbed

Please take a moment of silence to feel proud of your state dude. Nice goin' but not exactly what we want copied onto OUR communities LOL

Earlier this week, the Massachusetts Health Council released its biennial compendium on heath, "Common Health in the Commonwealth: Massachusetts Trends in the Preventable Determinants of Health," which includes statistics on everything from tobacco use to obesity, and from asthma to violence. The authors of the report, drawing upon FBI crime counts, note that Massachusetts has the unenviable distinction of leading all states in the Northeast in the rate of violent crime: "At a rate of 457 violent crimes per 100,000 population, the Commonwealth was once again, as in multiple previous years, statistically the most violent state in the Northeast region (comprised on the six New England States plus NY, NJ, and PA)."

http://boston.com/community/blogs/crime_punishment/2010/11/is_mass_really_1_in_violent_cr.html

I've been to Vermont a few times. I did come across one or two people but they were probably visitors like me. I didn't feel like it was in any way unsafe but now that I know that EVERYONE carries a gun I'll avoid it from now on. It's just not worth the risk. I can get my maple syrup in Maine and my cheese in New Hampshire. There's no other reason to go there!

Edited January 14, 2013 by himher

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Toughest gun laws in the nation: Washington DC - where semiautos are banned

Murder rate in DC: 17.5

Liberal logic: Banning semiautos makes you safer

<sigh> Another day of "fun with numbers" with the libs

2011 data - the last available. It's on the FBI.gov website

Vermont murder rate: 1.3

Texas murder rate: 4.4

California murder rate: 4.8

Conclusion: California is safer than Vermont

Liberal logic?

Please refrain from facts. It makes them grumpy. I did not have time to look it up, but commons sense tells you Vermont was not worse than Illinois. Did not have to google to know that list was BS>

[himher 634]

I idly recommend "fun with numbers" to anyone who wants to reduce a lib to coloring pictures

Please refrain from facts. It makes them grumpy. I did not have time to look it up, but commons sense tells you Vermont was not worse than Illinois. Did not have to google to know that list was BS>

[Penny Lane 8,159]

The table of the deadliest gun states. Vermont is at #30. It is the worst of the 6 New England states. It appears Vermont is not that safe after all.

#1, Mississippi

Gun deaths per 100,000: 18.3

Permissive gun laws: 4th out of 50

#2, Arizona

Gun deaths per 100,000: 15

Permissive gun laws: 1st out of 50

#3, Alaska

Gun deaths per 100,000: 17.6

Permissive gun laws: 11th out of 50

#4, Arkansas

Gun deaths per 100,000: 15.1

Permissive gun laws: 7th out of 50

#5, Louisiana

Gun deaths per 100,000: 19.9

Permissive gun laws: 23rd out of 50

#6, New Mexico

Gun deaths per 100,000: 15

Permissive gun laws: 6th out of 50

#7, Alabama

Gun deaths per 100,000: 17.6

Permissive gun laws: 27th out of 50

#8, Nevada

Gun deaths per 100,000: 16.2

Permissive gun laws: 22nd out of 50

#9, Montana

Gun deaths per 100,000: 14.5

Permissive gun laws: 10th out of 50

#10, Wyoming

Gun deaths per 100,000: 14.5

Permissive gun laws: 8th out of 50

#11, Kentucky

Gun deaths per 100,000: 14.4

Permissive gun laws: 5th out of 50

#12, West Virginia

Gun deaths per 100,000: 14.8

Permissive gun laws: 25th out of 50

#13, Tennessee

Gun deaths per 100,000: 15

Permissive gun laws: 31st out of 50

#14, Oklahoma

Gun deaths per 100,000: 13.4

Permissive gun laws: 17th out of 50

#15, Idaho

Gun deaths per 100,000: 12.5

Permissive gun laws: 2nd out of 50

#16, Georgia

Gun deaths per 100,000: 13.1

Permissive gun laws: 13th out of 50

#17, Missouri

Gun deaths per 100,000: 12.9

Permissive gun laws: 12th out of 50

#18, South Carolina

Gun deaths per 100,000: 13.4

Permissive gun laws: 20th out of 50

#19, North Carolina

Gun deaths per 100,000: 12.3

Permissive gun laws: 28th out of 50

#20, Florida

Gun deaths per 100,000: 12.5

Permissive gun laws: 41st out of 50

#21, Kansas

Gun deaths per 100,000: 10.5

Permissive gun laws: 14th out of 50

#22, Indiana

Gun deaths per 100,000: 10.6

Permissive gun laws: 21st out of 50

#23, Texas

Gun deaths per 100,000: 10.7

Permissive gun laws: 32nd out of 50

#24, Michigan

Gun deaths per 100,000: 10.9

Permissive gun laws: 39th out of 50

#25, Maryland

Gun deaths per 100,000: 12.1

Permissive gun laws: 44th out of 50

#26, Colorado

Gun deaths per 100,000: 10.4

Permissive gun laws: 24rd out of 50

#27, Pennsylvania

Gun deaths per 100,000: 10.7

Permissive gun laws: 40th out of 50

#28, Virginia

Gun deaths per 100,000: 10.7

Permissive gun laws: 35th out of 50

#29, Utah

Gun deaths per 100,000: 9.5

Permissive gun laws: 18th out of 50

#30, Vermont

Gun deaths per 100,000: 8.4

Permissive gun laws: 3rd out of 50

#31, Oregon

Gun deaths per 100,000: 10.4

Permissive gun laws: 30th out of 50

#32, North Dakota

Gun deaths per 100,000: 8.9

Permissive gun laws: 15th out of 50

#33, Ohio

Gun deaths per 100,000: 9.6

Permissive gun laws: 29th out of 50

#34, Maine

Gun deaths per 100,000: 8.1

Permissive gun laws: 9th out of 50

#35, Delaware

Gun deaths per 100,000: 9.2

Permissive gun laws: 33rd out of 50

#36, Wisconsin

Gun deaths per 100,000: 8.7

Permissive gun laws: 34th out of 50

#37, Nebraska

Gun deaths per 100,000: 8

Permissive gun laws: 19th out of 50

#38, South Dakota

Gun deaths per 100,000: 6.5

Permissive gun laws: 16th out of 50

#39, Washington

Gun deaths per 100,000: 8.5

Permissive gun laws: 37th out of 50

#40, California

Gun deaths per 100,000: 9

Permissive gun laws: 50th out of 50

#41, New Hampshire

Gun deaths per 100,000: 5.9

Permissive gun laws: 26th out of 50

#42, Minnesota

Gun deaths per 100,000: 6.6

Permissive gun laws: 36th out of 50

#43, Illinois

Gun deaths per 100,000: 8

Permissive gun laws: 45th out of 50

#44, Iowa

Gun deaths per 100,000: 5.3

Permissive gun laws: 38th out of 50

#45, New York

Gun deaths per 100,000: 5.1

Permissive gun laws: 43rd out of 50

#46, New Jersey

Gun deaths per 100,000: 5.2

Permissive gun laws: 49th out of 50

#47, Connecticut

Gun deaths per 100,000: 4.3

Permissive gun laws: 46th out of 50

#48, Rhode Island

Gun deaths per 100,000: 3.5

Permissive gun laws: 42nd out of 50

#49, Massachusetts

Gun deaths per 100,000: 3.6

Permissive gun laws: 48th out of 50

#50, Hawaii

Gun deaths per 100,000: 2.8

Permissive gun laws: 47th out of 50

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Yeah, this doesn't seem accurate. At all. Unless I'm missing something. How is Illinois that low on the list?

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Yeah, this doesn't seem accurate. At all. Unless I'm missing something. How is Illinois that low on the list?

it is number 43.... That is only 7 from the end. I would say that is pretty low.

Point is, that list is wrong, way wrong. Illinois is 20th and Vermont is 40th

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

That's what I fckn thought. Noticed your silence on the gun ownership vs. murder rate also.

Your problem is that you try to refute a statistic on gun death rates with a statistic on murder rates. Those are two different things - hence, the apples and oranges. That wasn't hard to figure out, really.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

it is number 43.... That is only 7 from the end. I would say that is pretty low.

Um, yes. That was my comment. That it's too low on this list to be accurate.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Um, yes. That was my comment. That it's too low on this list to be accurate.

I think I underestimated my ability to misunderstand your point

[himher 634]

The data probably includes all shootings aka self-defense, police action, and criminal shootings

Otherwise Massachusetts with a violent crime rate of 428.4 ranks higher than Texas with violent crime rate of 408.5 and is 1/3 the violent crime rate of DC at 1202.1

Texas has fewer restrictions on guns than Mass which has fewer restrictions on guns than DC.

Yeah, this doesn't seem accurate. At all. Unless I'm missing something. How is Illinois that low on the list?

[Penny Lane 8,159]

I think I underestimated my ability to misunderstand your point

It's too early for this.

[himher 634]

The problem started when you tried to insert a CDC statistic on gun deaths, which include ALL deaths including police shootings, shootings in self-defense, suicides by gun, and every other place where cause of death was firearm into a discussion about gun control then used that statistic to pretend that states with more gun restrictions were magically safer places to live.

Unless you wish to ban police from carrying guns also?

Your problem is that you try to refute a statistic on gun death rates with a statistic on murder rates. Those are two different things - hence, the apples and oranges. That wasn't hard to figure out, really.

Edited January 14, 2013 by himher

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Otherwise Massachusetts with a violent crime rate of 428.4 ranks higher than Texas with violent crime rate of 408.5 and is 1/3 the violent crime rate of DC at 1202.1

Texas has fewer restrictions on guns than Mass which has fewer restrictions on guns than DC.

And that proves what?

The problem started when you tried to insert a CDC statistic on gun deaths, which include ALL deaths including police shootings, shootings in self-defense, suicides by gun, and every other place where cause of death was firearm into a discussion about gun control then used that statistic to pretend that states with more gun restrictions were magically safer places to live.

Unless you wish to ban police from carrying guns also?

I inserted a CDC statistic? What gave you that idea?

Edited January 14, 2013 by Mr. Big Dog

[himher 634]

It proves nothing. It is simply data reflecting 2011 violent crime rates in different areas of the country. One may, if one wishes, cross-reference this data with area gun restrictions and draw ones own conclusions. You, however, are not expected to do that. Unfortunately as I could not find a coloring book about it I guess you aren't expected to do anything.

The chart on shooting deaths reflects CDC data. YOU personally have never inserted valid data about anything and with this in mind I owe you an apology.

Sorry about that. My bad.

And that proves what?

I inserted a CDC statistic? What gave you that idea?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

It proves nothing. It is simply data reflecting 2011 violent crime rates in different areas of the country. One may, if one wishes, cross-reference this data with area gun restrictions and draw ones own conclusions.

And what conclusions should or could one draw? Help me out here with your infinite wisdom.