THIS DEMOCRAT MAKES AKIN LOOK GOOD.

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The "common sense" exceptions are not common sense to one Paul Ryan and many other Republicans who have pushed and voted for legislation to outlaw abortions even in the case of rape and incest. The record doesn't support what you stipulate.

This is not common sense, yet this is the view of republicans here.

When the bill passed in April, Mississippi Gov. Phil Bryant heralded it as “the first step” to making Mississippi the first abortion-free state. Bryant accused the bill’s Democratic opponents of having one goal: “to abort children.”

“Their one mission in life is to abort children, is to kill children in the womb,” Bryant told conservative radio host Tony Perkins in April.

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The "common sense" exceptions are not common sense to one Paul Ryan and many other Republicans who have pushed and voted for legislation to outlaw abortions even in the case of rape and incest. The record doesn't support what you stipulate.

they're pushing those through the house where the have a partisan rubber stamp, knowing its dead the second it hits the senate. those bills are nothing but theatre. (same as the ones being passed in republican controlled state governments) anyone seriously trying to make changes to abortion law knows those exceptions MUST be included.

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they're pushing those through the house where the have a partisan rubber stamp, knowing its dead the second it hits the senate. those bills are nothing but theatre. (same as the ones being passed in republican controlled state governments) anyone seriously trying to make changes to abortion law knows those exceptions MUST be included.

Why is that not the case in Mississippi then? There are no exceptions to the rule, the governor wants the state to be the first "abortion-free" state.

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Okay, what is the rationale for the GOPs absolute anti-abortion platform?

Pure, sheer and unadulterated pandering...

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Why is that not the case in Mississippi then? There are no exceptions to the rule, the governor wants the state to be the first "abortion-free" state.

its theatre. even if they passed laws making mississippi an abortion free state, the first lawsuit filed will make it history. the scotus has already decided the issue. rowe vs. wade.

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its theatre. even if they passed laws making mississippi an abortion free state, the first lawsuit filed will make it history. the scotus has already decided the issue. rowe vs. wade.

I agree, it is theatre. Thankfully a federal judge temporarily overruled the law. It is such a waste of money, if only they were interested in creating jobs instead.

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they're pushing those through the house where the have a partisan rubber stamp, knowing its dead the second it hits the senate. those bills are nothing but theatre. (same as the ones being passed in republican controlled state governments) anyone seriously trying to make changes to abortion law knows those exceptions MUST be included.

Keep telling yourself that. Or face reality.

Pure, sheer and unadulterated pandering...

To whom, though? 3 out 4 Americans do not support this radical, reactionary nonsense. Which is why they don't want to talk about Akin or the issue that he surfaced.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

ask scott brown

I think you need to realise that what you may see as common sense, may not be what is common sense to those much closer to what is going on. If some Republicans have reservations about the abortion platform the party wants to endorse, I'd say that's probably more insightful into the truth than your gut instinct.

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Keep telling yourself that. Or face reality.

i am a republican and very pro-life. there is no way in hell i'd support an out right ban on abortion. i'm willing to bet a large majority of people that share my views feel the same way.

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i am a republican and very pro-life. there is no way in hell i'd support an out right ban on abortion. i'm willing to bet a large majority of people that share my views feel the same way.

But you'd be prepared to support a party that would put such a ban on the table, trusting that it won't actually come to anything.

That seems a bit risky doesn't it?

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i am a republican and very pro-life. there is no way in hell i'd support an out right ban on abortion. i'm willing to bet a large majority of people that share my views feel the same way.

Then why does the platform of your party not represent that. They don't represent you. Or Scott Brown. Or any other pro-choice Republican. Why do let them drown you out?

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But you'd be prepared to support a party that would put such a ban on the table, trusting that it won't actually come to anything.

That seems a bit risky doesn't it?

not really. we all know it won't happen. its theatre/pandering to get the hardcore nutters on board to support other positions.

Then why does the platform of your party not represent that. They don't represent you. Or Scott Brown. Or any other pro-choice Republican. Why do let them drown you out?

i'm not pro-choice, i'm pro-life. i have common sense, and know an all out ban is stupid & will never happen. they aren't drowning me out. you're not looking at it for what it is..its nothing more than a recruiting ploy. romney doesn't support an abortion ban, he has stated it. ryan & co. are recruiting the fringe with this rhetoric.

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not really. we all know it won't happen. its theatre/pandering to get the hardcore nutters on board to support other positions.

Well I guess you'd better hope that the folks you're prepared to put your trust in see your side of the issue while they're busy promoting something completely different. Either way someone is being lied to. Hardly something that makes for a transparency.

i'm not pro-choice, i'm pro-life. i have common sense, and know an all out ban is stupid & will never happen. they aren't drowning me out. you're not looking at it for what it is..its nothing more than a recruiting ploy. romney doesn't support an abortion ban, he has stated it. ryan & co. are recruiting the fringe with this rhetoric.

You assume there's a status quo and that it won't change. You may be right, but it's a risky assumption.

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Well I guess you'd better hope that the folks you're prepared to put your trust in see your side of the issue while they're busy promoting something completely different. Either way someone is being lied to. Hardly something that makes for a transparency.

You assume there's a status quo and that it won't change. You may be right, but it's a risky assumption.

rowe vs. wade. its going to take a republican house, senate, president, and 1 or 2 more conservative judges on the bench of the scotus to overturn it. i just don't see the stars aligning in our life time.

[OnMyWayID 1,489]

i'm not pro-choice, i'm pro-life. i have common sense, and know an all out ban is stupid & will never happen. they aren't drowning me out. you're not looking at it for what it is..its nothing more than a recruiting ploy. romney doesn't support an abortion ban, he has stated it. ryan & co. are recruiting the fringe with this rhetoric.

I'm not understanding your logic.. If you are pro-life I presume you think it is a life and should be afforded some sort of rights.. If that is what you beleive then having exceptions is hypocritical - you should be for an outright ban...

Edited August 22, 2012 by OnMyWayID