What happens when you are executed by electrocution

[rclouse 0]

that is just my opinion.

all i have to think of is my son or husband...if someone would kill them and then walks free cause he pretended he was friggin insane and didnt know what he was doin....then i would hunt them down myself with the risk of going to prison

Then you favor the death penalty because you want revenge. But revenge is not justice.

I watched Penn & Teller's Bullshit! about the death penalty, and while they had many, many arguments against it, the one that was the most powerful for me was the paradox of the death penalty. Murder is defined the killing of an innocent person. The penalty for murder is death. If the state (i.e. all of us) executes someone who is actually innocent of murder, the state has committed murder. And the penalty for murder is death. There is the paradox.

Isn't locking someone up until they're dead good enough punishment? If there was a mistake and the person was actually innocent, we can at least give him the rest of his life back.

[Mags 112]

And let's not forget that the death penalty gets the votes...

[chri'stina 190]

I think for families who have suffered a rape+murder of a child or any relative are not satisfied in a weird twisted way if the killer gets the death sentence, but it's more of a relief to know he won't be able to do it to anyone else ever again. They won't have to worry about his existence in this world anymore.

I have mixed feelings about the death penalty but I do believe in justice. I do not believe bringing ppl to justice makes you as bad as those who have committed the crimes. The law and government in these cases are there to deal out repercussions to those who decide to commit these murders. The people personally affected do not usually go out and hunt down the person who murdered their family---it is dealt with by the government. It is not a personal issue but a societal issue in that case. I do not think it is barbaric to give justice to those who deserve justice.

Edited October 20, 2006 by stina&suj

[mybackpages 0]

And let's not forget that the death penalty gets the votes...

especially in a atate like Texas where the procesutor is an elected official. In Harris County (the Houston Area) our district attorney runs on a platform of beign tough on crime. Harris County, itself, rates below Texas but ahead of Virginia in number of executions each year.

Edited October 20, 2006 by mybackpages

[rob&ana 0]

I disagree. I think all this debate over method of execution is just how we deal with the guilt of what we're doing. Death is death and we justify it to ourselves by telling each other "at least he died without pain". Bullsh!t. We killed him.

Well if it doesn't matter how we kill them, why not use them for medical experiments?

Test all kinds of dodgy drugs that will end up killing them.

Why not make it even more painful for them? Let's chop off their fingers, one by one,

until we run out of fingers, then move on to other body parts.

Surely it matters.

Because you'd have Human Rights Organizations all over you after you've cut the first finger...

So cutting fingers is off limits, but electrocution is ok?

I dont work for any Human Rights Organization!!

But hey, I agree with you. They should be punished in slow and painful ways, specially child molesters and rapists. But it seems like killing them fast, is not so bad (for Human Rights).

Edited October 20, 2006 by rob&ana

[Mags 112]

I think for families who have suffered a rape+murder of a child or any relative are not satisfied in a weird twisted way if the killer gets the death sentence, but it's more of a relief to know he won't be able to do it to anyone else ever again. They won't have to worry about his existence in this world anymore.

I'd rather the killer spent a life time locked up with NO priviledges and made to do hard, physical labour every day for the rest of his natural.

There are pyramids to build.

Edited October 20, 2006 by mags

[mybackpages 0]

Why do we think the state has the power to determine who lives and who dies anyway?

[Mags 112]

I disagree. I think all this debate over method of execution is just how we deal with the guilt of what we're doing. Death is death and we justify it to ourselves by telling each other "at least he died without pain". Bullsh!t. We killed him.

Well if it doesn't matter how we kill them, why not use them for medical experiments?

Test all kinds of dodgy drugs that will end up killing them.

Why not make it even more painful for them? Let's chop off their fingers, one by one,

until we run out of fingers, then move on to other body parts.

Surely it matters.

Because you'd have Human Rights Organizations all over you after you've cut the first finger...

So cutting fingers is off limits, but electrocution is ok?

I dont work for any Human Rights Organization!!

But hey, I agree with you. They should be punished in slow and painful ways, specially child molesters and rapists. But it seems like killing them fast, is not so bad (for Human Rights).

I'm sorry but I would get NO satisfaction from torturing or punishing someone in that manner. To this day I can't understand the "blood lust" I see in people. It's no better than when people used to gather in the streets to watch hangings and executions. Makes me sick to my stomach.

[rob&ana 0]

Why do we think the state has the power to determine who lives and who dies anyway?

I dont think is the State...

I believe it's a jury and a judge who applies the penalty... am I wrong?

[chri'stina 190]

I think for families who have suffered a rape+murder of a child or any relative are not satisfied in a weird twisted way if the killer gets the death sentence, but it's more of a relief to know he won't be able to do it to anyone else ever again. They won't have to worry about his existence in this world anymore.

I'd rather the killer spent a life time locked up with NO priviledges and made to do hard, physical labour every day for the rest of his natural.

There are pyramids to build.

Well like I said, I am not 100% on either side of the argument. But for someone who's family member was killed(not me! Just generally), knowing that person is still out there and that they could escape or be released too early would cause them stress for life.

If there truly was a hard physical labor punishment as an option, I'd support it. But you still can't be sure about escapees or those who fool the system.

Edited October 20, 2006 by stina&suj

[mybackpages 0]

Why do we think the state has the power to determine who lives and who dies anyway?

I dont think is the State...

I believe it's a jury and a judge who applies the penalty... am I wrong?

who determines the qualifications for death penalty eligible crimes? who decides it is an appropriate punushment in te first place? Who sets the rules for jurys? The state. And when the jury and judge take action, it is on behalf of the state.

[rob&ana 0]

I disagree. I think all this debate over method of execution is just how we deal with the guilt of what we're doing. Death is death and we justify it to ourselves by telling each other "at least he died without pain". Bullsh!t. We killed him.

Well if it doesn't matter how we kill them, why not use them for medical experiments?

Test all kinds of dodgy drugs that will end up killing them.

Why not make it even more painful for them? Let's chop off their fingers, one by one,

until we run out of fingers, then move on to other body parts.

Surely it matters.

Because you'd have Human Rights Organizations all over you after you've cut the first finger...

So cutting fingers is off limits, but electrocution is ok?

I dont work for any Human Rights Organization!!

But hey, I agree with you. They should be punished in slow and painful ways, specially child molesters and rapists. But it seems like killing them fast, is not so bad (for Human Rights).

I'm sorry but I would get NO satisfaction from torturing or punishing someone in that manner. To this day I can't understand the "blood lust" I see in people. It's no better than when people used to gather in the streets to watch hangings and executions. Makes me sick to my stomach.

I dont think I can give you an accurate answer, since I know no one who has been raped, or no children who have been molested. And I dont know if the word 'satisfaction' would be in my dictionary again if something like this happened to me or any of my loved ones.

I do believe that some sort of punishment is necessary for these types of crimes, if not to give satisfaction to family members of the victims, at least to scare future criminals.

[mawilson 2,133]

I dont work for any Human Rights Organization!!

But hey, I agree with you. They should be punished in slow and painful ways, specially child molesters and rapists. But it seems like killing them fast, is not so bad (for Human Rights).

Good grief, I never suggested such a thing. No-one deserves to die a slow and painful

death, not even rapists or child molesters.

It was just a counterargument to Gupt's statement (that it doesn't matter how we kill them

because in the end they are dead.)

[rob&ana 0]

Why do we think the state has the power to determine who lives and who dies anyway?

I dont think is the State...

I believe it's a jury and a judge who applies the penalty... am I wrong?

who determines the qualifications for death penalty eligible crimes? who decides it is an appropriate punushment in te first place? Who sets the rules for jurys? The state. And when the jury and judge take action, it is on behalf of the state.

But there has to be some punishment, and someone has to set the terms of this punishments!

Who if not the State would be entittled to that?

[chri'stina 190]

And also I've noticed on the news or on VJ or anywhere... why do some people who usually do not support the death penalty suddenly support it if it involves a child, or anyone really, being murdered heinously. It's like, well the more it effects you the more you support it. But if it doesn't effect you at the moment, you don't support it. Yet how much is it effecting ppl all over the place who are dealing with it first hand.

Anyway, the way some ppl cannot understand the death penalty, I cannot understand other deaths like abortion. How women let themselves go into believing it is ok to get rid of a life growing inside of them, I will never understand.

And what's funny too is that often those who support abortion, oppose the death penalty...and those who oppose abortion, support the death penalty(which I happen to understand much better, of course). Get rid of an innocent fetus, but keep a murderer alive....that logic fails me.

Why can't ppl either be against all form of killing or support all forms? But I know, I know...abortion is not considered murder or killing by many. *rolls eyes*

I'd rather be opposed to both the death penalty and abortion.