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Hi Everyone,

I hope everyone is doing well. I am patiently waiting for my interview date to arrive (one more week!) I just figured I would reach out, and I know this was a worry of mine after submitting my package, that I did not submit my full length birth certificate. Everything came as normal, no RFEs, however I just received in the mail yesterday a regular letter from my field office asking for me to bring my full length birth certificate. Thank goodness I requested it after submitting my package, thanks to my Canadian friends and their advice here!

Canadians apparently receive TWO birth certificates-a long form and a short form one- and this is something me and my parents JUST learned this year, and you have to request it! It costs about 30 dollars and it comes within a week. If you are Canadian and are planning on Adjusting Status and do not have this form, be warned you will need it.

I never received an RFE, and this is not a "traditional" RFE...however I just wanted to let everyone know that not being completely careful and double checking everything will come back to haunt you! Thank goodness its already in my interview packet ready to go :)

I just wanted to make everyone aware that even after you receive your interview notice...keep an eye on the mail...just in case.

Have a great Sunday everyone and good LUCK!

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06/25/12-2 Year Green Card Approved

05/13/14-Mailed ROC

05/15/14-NOA Receipt Date

05/19/14-Check posted to account and NOA received in mail

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I ordered my long form birth certificate for myself and my children so I would have them for the K1 interview. Yes, good advice, and it is a quick turnaround too! :)

Kimberley and Richard
Service Center : Vermont Service Center
Consulate : Montreal, Canada
2012-01-25 : I-129F Sent
2012-01-27 : VSC Received
2012-01-31 : I-129F NOA1 Notice Date
2012-02-01 : Touch
2012-07-05 : RFE Email (after 161 days)
2012-07-11 : RFE Received in Mail
2012-07-12 : RFE Reply Sent via USPS Overnight
2012-07-13 : RFE Reply Received at VSC at 12:16 PM
2012-07-18 : Case status updated to: "Request for Evidence Response Review"
2012-09-20 : Service Request Submitted with Tier 2 ISO
2012-09-25 : NOA2 Approved after 242 days!!
2013-01-07: Medical
2013-01-22: Interview - Approved! smile.png

My blog and video review of the Montreal Hotel that we stayed in: http://fanatictourist.com/blog/travel-tales/review-le-square-phillips-hotel-and-suites-montreal-canada/

2013-04-30: POE - Sarnia / Pt. Huron

2013-05-06: Made it legal.

2013-06-10: Apply for AOS, EAD and AP

2013-08-27: EAD / AP Received
2013-09-17: Greencard Received

2013-09-28: Wedding! smile.png

2015-06-15: Sent I-751 Application - Removal of Conditions.
2015-11-23: Approved
2015-12-02: 10 yr Green Card Rec'd.

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Can you tell me what the difference is between the long and short form?

We ordered the long form for my husband, but I was surprised by how little info there is on it. I'm worried we didn't get the correct one.

AOS

5/16/2012 - Package delivered to Chicago Lockbox at 1:33pm

5/21/2012 - Email/text notifications received at 4:50 p.m.

5/26/2012 - NOA hard copies received for I-130, I-485 and I-765

6/19/2012 - Biometrics completed.

7/02/2012 - Text/email/hard copy notification of interview.

7/30/2012 - EAD card production ordered.

8/02/2012 - Interview @ 2:00

8/02/2012 - Email notification of GC production at 5:30pm

8/07/2012 - Second GC production email

8/07/2012 - EAD received.

8/08/2012 - GC mailed.

8/09/2012 - Welcome letter and I-130 approval letter received.

8/10/2012 - Green card received. :)

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Can you tell me what the difference is between the long and short form?

We ordered the long form for my husband, but I was surprised by how little info there is on it. I'm worried we didn't get the correct one.

Long form includes parents names -- that's the only difference.

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Can you tell me what the difference is between the long and short form?

We ordered the long form for my husband, but I was surprised by how little info there is on it. I'm worried we didn't get the correct one.

Long form includes parents names + information , doctors names, nurses names, birth place information, birth information.

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Your interview took 67 days from your I-129F NOA1 date.

AOS was approved in 2 months and 8 days without interview.

ROC was approved in 3 months and 2 days without interview.

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Short Form

This includes basic information such as:

Name (last name and given name(s))

Date of birth

Certificate number

Birthplace

Sex

Date of registration

Registration number

Date issued

Long Form (Certified)

This contains all registered information, including:

Name (last name and given name(s))

Date of birth

Birthplace (city, town, village, municipality)

Sex

Location of birth (hospital, birthing centre, etc.)

Parents' names

Parents' dates of birth

Mother's mailing address at the time of birth

Duration of the pregnancy

Number of children born to this mother

Parents' birthplaces

Weight of the child at birth

Type of birth (single, multiple, etc.)

Attendant at the birth

Date of registration

Registration number

Date issued

06/25/12-2 Year Green Card Approved

05/13/14-Mailed ROC

05/15/14-NOA Receipt Date

05/19/14-Check posted to account and NOA received in mail

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It should also be noted that a short form birth certificate is still valid and accepted by the USCIS. Per Title 8, CFR 103.2(b) "Evidence & Processing" (http://www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/SLB/HTML/SLB/0-0-0-1/0-0-0-11249/0-0-0-11618/0-0-0-11634.html) specific to "Submitting secondary evidence and affidavits" which is specifically referenced in the I-485; there is no explicit requirement for a long form birth certificate. Although preferred, the short form birth certificate is generally accepted. If you have time and money to request the long form, I'd recommend it. However, it is highly unlikely, if you were born in Canada (not naturalized), that you'll receive an RFE for a short form birth certificate. This is largely due to the fact that the US and Canadian populous databases are highly intertwined and confirming data provided in the I485 form is extremely easy for the USCIS.

Short Form

This includes basic information such as:

Name (last name and given name(s))

Date of birth

Certificate number

Birthplace

Sex

Date of registration

Registration number

Date issued

Long Form (Certified)

This contains all registered information, including:

Name (last name and given name(s))

Date of birth

Birthplace (city, town, village, municipality)

Sex

Location of birth (hospital, birthing centre, etc.)

Parents' names

Parents' dates of birth

Mother's mailing address at the time of birth

Duration of the pregnancy

Number of children born to this mother

Parents' birthplaces

Weight of the child at birth

Type of birth (single, multiple, etc.)

Attendant at the birth

Date of registration

Registration number

Date issued

That's specific to Ontario. Quebec, as an example, only adds the parents names to the long form document. Virtually no difference between the short and long form documents.

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hmmm, now I'm more confused.

We ordered the long form.

It shows parents names, place and date of birth. (And of course my husbands name.)

Nothing about the hospital, birth weight, etc. I was surprised by how little info it had on it compared to mine.

So what do we have? Long or short? Is it different by province?

AOS

5/16/2012 - Package delivered to Chicago Lockbox at 1:33pm

5/21/2012 - Email/text notifications received at 4:50 p.m.

5/26/2012 - NOA hard copies received for I-130, I-485 and I-765

6/19/2012 - Biometrics completed.

7/02/2012 - Text/email/hard copy notification of interview.

7/30/2012 - EAD card production ordered.

8/02/2012 - Interview @ 2:00

8/02/2012 - Email notification of GC production at 5:30pm

8/07/2012 - Second GC production email

8/07/2012 - EAD received.

8/08/2012 - GC mailed.

8/09/2012 - Welcome letter and I-130 approval letter received.

8/10/2012 - Green card received. :)

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I guess it does differ by province. What province did you order from?

06/25/12-2 Year Green Card Approved

05/13/14-Mailed ROC

05/15/14-NOA Receipt Date

05/19/14-Check posted to account and NOA received in mail

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I think it is different by province. What province are you in?

Ours say "Statement of Live Birth" at the top of the form. We are in Ontario.

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Kimberley and Richard
Service Center : Vermont Service Center
Consulate : Montreal, Canada
2012-01-25 : I-129F Sent
2012-01-27 : VSC Received
2012-01-31 : I-129F NOA1 Notice Date
2012-02-01 : Touch
2012-07-05 : RFE Email (after 161 days)
2012-07-11 : RFE Received in Mail
2012-07-12 : RFE Reply Sent via USPS Overnight
2012-07-13 : RFE Reply Received at VSC at 12:16 PM
2012-07-18 : Case status updated to: "Request for Evidence Response Review"
2012-09-20 : Service Request Submitted with Tier 2 ISO
2012-09-25 : NOA2 Approved after 242 days!!
2013-01-07: Medical
2013-01-22: Interview - Approved! smile.png

My blog and video review of the Montreal Hotel that we stayed in: http://fanatictourist.com/blog/travel-tales/review-le-square-phillips-hotel-and-suites-montreal-canada/

2013-04-30: POE - Sarnia / Pt. Huron

2013-05-06: Made it legal.

2013-06-10: Apply for AOS, EAD and AP

2013-08-27: EAD / AP Received
2013-09-17: Greencard Received

2013-09-28: Wedding! smile.png

2015-06-15: Sent I-751 Application - Removal of Conditions.
2015-11-23: Approved
2015-12-02: 10 yr Green Card Rec'd.

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My husband is from Newfoundland.

It came on very pretty, fancy paper. It says "Newfoundland and Labrador" really big and in tiny letters it say "Birth Certificate".

AOS

5/16/2012 - Package delivered to Chicago Lockbox at 1:33pm

5/21/2012 - Email/text notifications received at 4:50 p.m.

5/26/2012 - NOA hard copies received for I-130, I-485 and I-765

6/19/2012 - Biometrics completed.

7/02/2012 - Text/email/hard copy notification of interview.

7/30/2012 - EAD card production ordered.

8/02/2012 - Interview @ 2:00

8/02/2012 - Email notification of GC production at 5:30pm

8/07/2012 - Second GC production email

8/07/2012 - EAD received.

8/08/2012 - GC mailed.

8/09/2012 - Welcome letter and I-130 approval letter received.

8/10/2012 - Green card received. :)

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Maybe what might help is the size. In Alberta, the short form is the size of a credit card, the Long form is not quite a full piece of paper.

~~~ Hes the chance Im taking ~~~

April 2007 - Met online

Oct. 2008 - He came to Canada to meet me

Dec 25 2009 officially engaged

March 2010 - sent off I-129F

March 27 2010 - Vermont receives package :)

April 3 2010 - Informed through mail that cheque is cashed NOA1

May 28 2010 - RFE notification ( yeah Im online checking alot >.< )

June 5 2010 - RFE hardcopy received

June 18 2010 - RFE returned ( had done it June 7 - but USPS returned grrrr )

--- case says we should hear from them in 60 days from June 18 ---

June 23 - Touched

Aug4 - Email notification of NoA2 :)

Aug. 10 - NOA2 Hardcopy received

Sept. 13 - Faxed off Package 3

Sept 14 - Interview notification set for Oct. 5

Oct. 5 2010 Interview Passed

March 17 2011 POE Canadian/US border

April 1 2011 Marriage

Mailed AOS June 1

Chicago Lockbox confirms delivery June 3

Check cashed through bank - notification June 9

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Birth certificates vary by province -- there's no set standard -- although it would be helpful if there was one. The Ontario long form birth certificate is one of the longest in Canada -- if you were born in the last 30 years it details out a tremendous amount of information. Quebec, as I've mentioned previously, both have very little information. The short birth certificate is approx. the size of a credit card (8.7 cm x 5.5 cm). The long form Quebec birth certificate is slightly larger (21.5 cm x 18.5 cm).

The short form Quebec birth certificate includes:

Surname, given names, sex, date and place of birth, registration number and date of issue

The long form Quebec birth certificate includes:

Surname, given names, sex, date and place of birth, registration number and date of issue. Father's and mother's surnames and given names

Ontario for instance has a much different birth certificate and the information they include. The short is 2.5" x 3.75" and the long is 8.5" x 14".

The short form Ontario birth certificate includes:

Name (last name and given name(s))

Date of birth

Certificate number

Birthplace

Sex

Date of registration

Registration number

Date issued

The long form Ontario birth certificate includes:

Name (last name and given name(s))

Date of birth

Birthplace (city, town, village, municipality)

Sex

Location of birth (hospital, birthing centre, etc.)

Parents' names

Parents' dates of birth

Mother's mailing address at the time of birth

Duration of the pregnancy

Number of children born to this mother

Parents' birthplaces

Weight of the child at birth

Type of birth (single, multiple, etc.)

Attendant at the birth

Date of registration

Registration number

Date issued

As you can see between neighboring provinces there's a substancial difference in the amount of data detailed on the short vs. long birth certificates.

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My husband is from Newfoundland.

It came on very pretty, fancy paper. It says "Newfoundland and Labrador" really big and in tiny letters it say "Birth Certificate".

N&L have the same birth certificates as Quebec in terms of information. The long simply adds the parents names. Nothing more, nothing less.

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Well, it definitely sounds like we've got a long form. It's bigger than a credit card and includes parents names, just no other information. Figures, Newfoundlanders would probably consider including anything extra as "some foolish." :)

Thanks for your help!

AOS

5/16/2012 - Package delivered to Chicago Lockbox at 1:33pm

5/21/2012 - Email/text notifications received at 4:50 p.m.

5/26/2012 - NOA hard copies received for I-130, I-485 and I-765

6/19/2012 - Biometrics completed.

7/02/2012 - Text/email/hard copy notification of interview.

7/30/2012 - EAD card production ordered.

8/02/2012 - Interview @ 2:00

8/02/2012 - Email notification of GC production at 5:30pm

8/07/2012 - Second GC production email

8/07/2012 - EAD received.

8/08/2012 - GC mailed.

8/09/2012 - Welcome letter and I-130 approval letter received.

8/10/2012 - Green card received. :)

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