bonafide relationship PROOF??????

[bigdog 377]

If you follow the guides, see the examples you will do fine. Remember each petition is different as are the relationships, countries, cultures, fraud issues etc. Obcioulsy if you are from a high fraud country the issues need to be overcome, see your particular like the Phillipines a little different than China for example. We hope that helps.

[kitt2001 11]

As for being at the interview with your fiance, I wondered the same thing too... Do I really need to be there?

I emailed the embassy in the Philippines and asked them if I had to show up for the interview. I explained to them that as much as I want to be there for my fiance, I would really like to save the money I would be spending on a round-trip plane ticket and other expenses I would incur while being over there, for when my fiance is able to move here.

They replied back and said that if I choose not to go to the interview, it wont decrease the chance for approval. They said if I choose to go to the interview, it also wouldn't increase the chance for approval. I think it is safe to say that showing up or not showing up wont affect anything.

Edited June 4, 2012 by kitt2001

[Big Baby 11]

f1000: yes, highly recommended.

frank_jhen01: quality rather than quantity is important. do you have time/date stamped photos together? airline tickets are good. do you have evidence of ongoing relationship (i.e. no big gaps of no communication for a couple of months)? engagement ring?

bottom line: it depends on the CO, this is no a court of law, it depends on "haunches"; it is a shadowy affair, where your case can receive a "quasi-flag" and you will never be told, just placed on Administrative Processing for months or years (read FAM 9 K-1 requirements, notes, & procedure, & read Tran v. Napolitano for a lawsuit re: an all too common occurrence).

someone asked if it matters if fiance is present & someone else answered yes. while I would agree, a guy from Seattle attended fiancee's intake/interview & they received a white form while my fiancee (with me not present) received a blue form (reason not stated).

my friend from church did not hear anything for 6 months, eventually they said they lost all his paperwork & he had to submit everything all over again. good news, 2 kids later, is they were eventually approved. this process is not for the faint of heart.

best wishes all.

Edited June 4, 2012 by Big Baby

[frank_jhen_01 2]

f1000: yes, highly recommended.

frank_jhen01: quality rather than quantity is important. do you have time/date stamped photos together? airline tickets are good. do you have evidence of ongoing relationship (i.e. no big gaps of no communication for a couple of months)? engagement ring?

bottom line: it depends on the CO, this is no a court of law, it depends on "haunches"; it is a shadowy affair, where your case can receive a "quasi-flag" and you will never be told, just placed on Administrative Processing for months or years (read FAM 9 K-1 requirements, notes, & procedure, & read Tran v. Napolitano for a lawsuit re: an all too common occurrence).

someone asked if it matters if fiance is present & someone else answered yes. while I would agree, a guy from Seattle attended fiancee's intake/interview & they received a white form while my fiancee (with me not present) received a blue form (reason not stated).

my friend from church did not hear anything for 6 months, eventually they said they lost all his paperwork & he had to submit everything all over again. good news, 2 kids later, is they were eventually approved. this process is not for the faint of heart.

best wishes all.

quality rather than quantity is important. do you have time/date stamped photos together? airline tickets are good. do you have evidence of ongoing relationship (i.e. no big gaps of no communication for a couple of months)? engagement ring?

set of pictures that we have is the pictures i sent with the applications, i have copies but it doesnt have date/time stamp, airline tickets i have that well my boarding pass and as usual my passport stamps. we email alot, yahoo, we skype a lot too, chat on facebooks, engagement ring i have one to give to her when i go back..does all this helps me some?

[Mogambi 96]

I think you should definitely front-load your I-129F at least 'a bit'. If part of the process of filing the I-129F is to explain how you met in the past two years, you might as well go ahead and include some evidence of that meeting. I sent in photocopies of my airlines tickets, hotel receipts, and boarding passes for me and my fiance from a trip to Hong Kong we took while I was in there for a month in the Philippines. We sent about 10 pictures I suppose, at least half of them with group of friends, or her family.

The printer I had, a Canon, has some photo software with it, that allows you to overlay the embedded time and date, so we went ahead and did that. Not even sure that matters as much these days, they must know that photos would be easily faked. For my second and third trips there I went ahead and turned on the time and date 'in' the camera. Probably not a bad idea to do.

There are some that think you can front-load your application TOO much, that it makes you look suspicious. Like you are so worried about getting caught as a fraud, so you sent in 50 pages of emails, everything else...

What I sent I sent in:

Airline itinerary for my flight to Philippines

Photocopies of boarding passes

Itinerary and boarding passes for our trip to Hong Kong, and our trip to Cebu and Dumaguete

Receipts for the ferry from Dumaguete to Cebu (had our names on them)

Set of hotel receipts for the places as we traveled around Phil.

Photocopy of engagement ring receipt

Printout of our engagement announcement on Facebook showing about 60 comments from family and friends

And my fiance and I bought a condo together, so I included one copy of the receipt for our downpayment showing both our names

Oh and one bank statement since we had a bank account together at the time we filed.

We had zero problems on our application. When she got to the interview in manila, they glanced at a few new photos, and not a single thing else!

I didn't sent any emails, letters, skype chats, phone records, money remittance at all in the initial petition. Of course I had those ready for the interview, but they never asked to see a single thing.

So I suspect that maybe front-loading isn't such a bad idea.

[Hank_ 9,174]

documentary evidence? i've been knowing her since childhood, then i came to u.s. 2003, visited back to philippines after my high school dec 2007-jan 2008, i hve my passport stamps but no pictures of us together, then i went to college, got married here dec 2009-aug 201, finalized the divorce aug 2011, went back to philippines aug 2011 and met my fiance again, and we got engaged. lots of pictures. my question is, we are not that long in our relationship and after my divorce i met her again and got engaged, and filed for k1, i just want to know for thos who have experience if being there with her during the interview will make a difference as in having a bonafide relationship.

Yes it made a difference. Do you need to be there? NO.

Have your chat logs from whatever service you use, pictures together and copies of emails you write back and forth if you do those, passport stamps and so on.

I was there and both the Filipino interviewer and the CO asked me as many questions as they did my wife, caught me off guard at first, but both were nice and we even chatted some. Very good experience, I was glad I was there to experience it. My main reason for being there was our plan for my wife (then fiancee) to not fly out right away (she hadn't quit working) and take a couple months to visit with family and friends before we flew home.