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This looks amazing! When I finish my grades for my students I will check it out :) I went in 2005, and I loved it!


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The Moors brought a tremendous history to Spain. Lingistically, there are 5000 words that are the same in Spanish and Arabic. If one listened hard enough and is fluent in Spanish, you could get the gist of a conversation in Arabic. Also, the Black Irish are descended from Spaniards/Moors.

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The Moors brought a tremendous history to Spain. Lingistically, there are 5000 words that are the same in Spanish and Arabic. If one listened hard enough and is fluent in Spanish, you could get the gist of a conversation in Arabic. Also, the Black Irish are descended from Spaniards/Moors.

I agree.. I am also black irish and when they did a dna test, I had syrian dna ahahhahaha sheessssh.. How did the syrians end up in Ireland? It was an mdtna test which is maternal so somewhere in the irish which I had pretty much a complete set of genomes, even celtic genomes.. I had some syrians show up hhahahha

Secondly, I speak spanish and yes, some of the flow sounds in some way arabic and alot of the time I understand and I dont know why hahahah

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I agree.. I am also black irish and when they did a dna test, I had syrian dna ahahhahaha sheessssh.. How did the syrians end up in Ireland? It was an mdtna test which is maternal so somewhere in the irish which I had pretty much a complete set of genomes, even celtic genomes.. I had some syrians show up hhahahha

Secondly, I speak spanish and yes, some of the flow sounds in some way arabic and alot of the time I understand and I dont know why hahahah

Well now you know why you can understand some of those words. ;)

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Well now you know why you can understand some of those words. ;)

whats even funnier is that I understand darja.. the spoken language of morocco and algeria although algerians use a lot of turkish and sahara berber words infused.. Its just being around it so much over the last 10 years I picked it up

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Out of the three countries, Tunisia's (Tunis, not Djerba) dialect is closest to FusHa. Algerian arabic is really a creole as it is heavily mixed with a French lexicon and Turkish borrowed words. My husband cannot understand Moroccans, so I have to translate for him. He says they speak quickly (which they do, but so do Tunisians) I don't know if its a realy quantifiable difference or a perceived difference linked to identity. Ok more coffee..

You may be interested in this article http://www.tunisia-live.net/2012/05/11/the-heritage-of-moorish-spain-alive-and-well-in-tunisia/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-heritage-of-moorish-spain-alive-and-well-in-tunisia


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Out of the three countries, Tunisia's (Tunis, not Djerba) dialect is closest to FusHa. Algerian arabic is really a creole as it is heavily mixed with a French lexicon and Turkish borrowed words. My husband cannot understand Moroccans, so I have to translate for him. He says they speak quickly (which they do, but so do Tunisians) I don't know if its a realy quantifiable difference or a perceived difference linked to identity. Ok more coffee..

You may be interested in this article http://www.tunisia-live.net/2012/05/11/the-heritage-of-moorish-spain-alive-and-well-in-tunisia/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-heritage-of-moorish-spain-alive-and-well-in-tunisia

I can always understand Algerian when they speak because I understand alot of darja but they speak enough french even with the arabic and darja that most sentences are understandable. Moroccans go either way, it they speak slowly, I understand them. I dont understand Tunisians at ALL because they speak so much arabic and I really am alot quicker with darja. I could understand Algeirans talking when I was in Tunisia and the Tunisians couldnt.. same thing sometimes when algerians talk. I sometimes understand them better than some moroccans when they start talking slang LOL

Out of the three countries, Tunisia's (Tunis, not Djerba) dialect is closest to FusHa. Algerian arabic is really a creole as it is heavily mixed with a French lexicon and Turkish borrowed words. My husband cannot understand Moroccans, so I have to translate for him. He says they speak quickly (which they do, but so do Tunisians) I don't know if its a realy quantifiable difference or a perceived difference linked to identity. Ok more coffee..

You may be interested in this article http://www.tunisia-live.net/2012/05/11/the-heritage-of-moorish-spain-alive-and-well-in-tunisia/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-heritage-of-moorish-spain-alive-and-well-in-tunisia

I agree with you with Tunisia being closer to Arabic. Whats also funny is Tunisia is sometimes a lot more nice to Algerian artists ( musicians) that algerian tv is. They frequently bring out of favor singers on to sing in Tunisia and they give concerts. The Algerian public can be very unforgiving LOL

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I agree.. I am also black irish and when they did a dna test, I had syrian dna ahahhahaha sheessssh.. How did the syrians end up in Ireland? It was an mdtna test which is maternal so somewhere in the irish which I had pretty much a complete set of genomes, even celtic genomes.. I had some syrians show up hhahahha

Secondly, I speak spanish and yes, some of the flow sounds in some way arabic and alot of the time I understand and I dont know why hahahah

The two of you must have some Spanish/Arabic superpower because this is just not true for most Spanish speakers.

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What if your husband has been mistaken for a Spanish speaker by someone who spoke Spanish, for reasons unknown? Instead of saying sorry, I don't speak Spanish, maybe he should have just said "try me" and listened really, really closely?


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The two of you must have some Spanish/Arabic superpower because this is just not true for most Spanish speakers.

Jenn you are so damn snarky.

Oran used to be a spanish colony and if you listen to Oranese Algerian, you hear so many spanish words its not even funny. In fact, many Algerians who live there have a rudimentary knowledge of spanish.

I dont have a super power. I have just been exposed to a lot of western algerians and they pepper alot of their language with spanish and french, unlike the algierians from algiers who used turkish based words alot

Jenn, you are too much girl...

What if your husband has been mistaken for a Spanish speaker by someone who spoke Spanish, for reasons unknown? Instead of saying sorry, I don't speak Spanish, maybe he should have just said "try me" and listened really, really closely?

You too are the queens of snark tonight LOL

The two of you must have some Spanish/Arabic superpower because this is just not true for most Spanish speakers.

I should have clarified it to say Oranese dialect because spanish doesnt have a damn thing in common with middle eastern arabic

Gotta be on my toes with you damn with you are such smarties LOL

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