Bristol mayor Peter Main suggests Avon river as alternate site to Ganga for Hindu cremains-scatter

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-18102020

River Avon possible site for Bristol Hindu ashes

2012/05/17 08:25 ET

Parag Bhatt said ashes dissolve in the water

Bristol's Hindu community may be able to scatter the ashes of loved ones in the River Avon in future rather than travelling to India's River Ganges.

The city's new Lord Mayor Peter Main said providing a consecrated site was one of his first priorities.

Parag Bhatt, from Bristol Hindu Temple, said it was difficult for a big family or elderly relatives to travel to India.

The Environment Agency and Bristol City Council are trying to identify a site.

Mr Main said: "It's their tradition to scatter ashes on water and quite often now they're flown back to India to do that.

"They're Bristolian, most are born and bred in Bristol, why shouldn't they have somewhere in Bristol to scatter their ashes?"

'Large costs'

Mr Bhatt said there were currently about 10,000 Hindus in Bristol and the surrounding area.

But he added: "It's not just the Bristol Hindu community that's going to benefit, it will be other communities like the Sikh and Buddhist as well.

"The only reason we take them to the Ganges is because they don't have a place in Bristol or nearby where they can disperse the ashes.

"If there are elderly people in the family it can be difficult and if it's a large family you're going to incur large costs as well for flights.

"It's just a matter of making it easier for the family who has just lost a loved one."

He explained that after a cremation Hindus wait for an auspicious day to go to a riverbank and scatter the ashes.

'Body purified'

"When the ashes are dispersed within the water the ashes actually dissolve and then they will meet one of the rivers Hindus refer to as holy.

"Somewhere in the world they all meet together so the meaning behind it is the body would be purified and after that the individual soul will go to heaven and to God."

A spokesman for the Environment Agency said it was helping to identify one or more suitable sites.

"We have no objection to it, subject to meeting some simple conditions," he said.

The agency's website states that if a site is in regular use it needs to assess if there is enough water to disperse the ashes, if anyone is using the river just downstream and and that other river users are not going to be affected.

Scattering ashes in British rivers is not new. The River Soar in Leicestershire and the River Thames in London are already used.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-18102020

River Avon possible site for Bristol Hindu ashes

2012/05/17 08:25 ET

Parag Bhatt said ashes dissolve in the water

Bristol's Hindu community may be able to scatter the ashes of loved ones in the River Avon in future rather than travelling to India's River Ganges.

The city's new Lord Mayor Peter Main said providing a consecrated site was one of his first priorities.

Parag Bhatt, from Bristol Hindu Temple, said it was difficult for a big family or elderly relatives to travel to India.

The Environment Agency and Bristol City Council are trying to identify a site.

Mr Main said: "It's their tradition to scatter ashes on water and quite often now they're flown back to India to do that.

"They're Bristolian, most are born and bred in Bristol, why shouldn't they have somewhere in Bristol to scatter their ashes?"

'Large costs'

Mr Bhatt said there were currently about 10,000 Hindus in Bristol and the surrounding area.

But he added: "It's not just the Bristol Hindu community that's going to benefit, it will be other communities like the Sikh and Buddhist as well.

"The only reason we take them to the Ganges is because they don't have a place in Bristol or nearby where they can disperse the ashes.

"If there are elderly people in the family it can be difficult and if it's a large family you're going to incur large costs as well for flights.

"It's just a matter of making it easier for the family who has just lost a loved one."

He explained that after a cremation Hindus wait for an auspicious day to go to a riverbank and scatter the ashes.

'Body purified'

"When the ashes are dispersed within the water the ashes actually dissolve and then they will meet one of the rivers Hindus refer to as holy.

"Somewhere in the world they all meet together so the meaning behind it is the body would be purified and after that the individual soul will go to heaven and to God."

A spokesman for the Environment Agency said it was helping to identify one or more suitable sites.

"We have no objection to it, subject to meeting some simple conditions," he said.

The agency's website states that if a site is in regular use it needs to assess if there is enough water to disperse the ashes, if anyone is using the river just downstream and and that other river users are not going to be affected.

Scattering ashes in British rivers is not new. The River Soar in Leicestershire and the River Thames in London are already used.

That river is tidal...I could think of better places.

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the ganges is sacred. no one wants their ashes dumped into avon river of bristol. that is just silly.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

On the other hand, throwing ashes from Clifton Bridge would be cool...

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

On the other hand, throwing ashes from Clifton Bridge would be cool...

Followed by a trip to the Coronation Tap!

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Followed by a trip to the Coronation Tap!

For a half pint of Cider...because the won't sell it in full pints.

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

For a half pint of Cider...because the won't sell it in full pints.

Too strong, you know, for full pints of Exhibition. I once came with an empty 5 liter jug and had them fill it up. That was fine to buy all at once for consuming off the premises, but only a half at a time whilst there...

[Saddle Bronc 124]

That river is tidal...I could think of better places.

At Kolkata (where people do dump ashes) as well as at Hariharpara (less so, due to Hindus being minority in Bangladesh--but not zero), the Ganga is also tidal.

the ganges is sacred. no one wants their ashes dumped into avon river of bristol. that is just silly.

Actually, a store could easily import small brass containers of Ganga-jal for those fussy about it--still cheaper than actually going to the Ganga--after which most Hindus don't have qualms about dropping the ashes in another river.

[mawilson 2,133]

At Kolkata

Calcutta

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At Kolkata (where people do dump ashes) as well as at Hariharpara (less so, due to Hindus being minority in Bangladesh--but not zero), the Ganga is also tidal.

And in Kolkata it's illegal to scatter your ashes in the water. Legally you're now required to store the ashes in a matka and bury the matka in the Ganga river bed.

That said, it's still India so you know how much people care about the law.