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Filed: Country: Netherlands
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Hello all,

My dates are definitely not close. I am not desperate to file close, I wanted to spend as much time as I can with my father and at the sametime do not wish to waste additional time for nothing.

I am including the latest response from my lawyer.

There is no requirement that you are in the US when it is filed, but you will want to be sure you have someone checking your mail for your appointment notices, as you must be in the US to have biometrics taken.

Correct but if you don't show up for biometrics or any other of the appointments later on, your case will be automatically put on hold for up to a year. Within this year you can request USCIS to resume your case so yes, definitely prefered to have someone looking at your mailbox but not strictly necessary. Any hold up will obviously cause a delay in your case.

N-400 application timeline

02-22-2012-- (00): documents sent

02-23-2012-- (01): NOA date

02-27-2012-- (05): check cashed

03-02-2012-- (09): bio appointment notice sent, bio date 03-15 (23)

03-05-2012-- (12): bio notice received

03-06-2012-- (13): early bio

03-12-2012-- (19): in line for interview scheduling

03-21-2012-- (28): scheduled for interview

03-28-2012-- (35): interview notice received

05-02-2012-- (70): interview. Rec. for Approval!

05-16-2012-- (84): in line for oath scheduling

06-19-2012-(118): scheduled for oath

06-21-2012-(120): oath letter received

07-06-2012-(135): oath

Passport application timeline

07-10-2012-- (00): application sent (card+book/routine service)

07-17-2012-- (07): application status online

07-26-2012-- (16): application on hold (name too long)

07-28-2012-- (18): RFI Tucson passport center (proposed shortened name) letter received

07-30-2012-- (20): reply sent to Tucson passport center

08-18-2012-- (39): passport book received

08-21-2012-- (42): passport card received

08-21-2012-- (42): CON received

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Filed: Timeline

I wanted to get the opinion of the community on this one.

Do you think I should include this last trip in my application since there won't be any return date at that moment.

Maybe, I could put a future date for my return and write in parentheses planned date of return.

Either way, it will set a red flag that will have to be resolved at the interview. The DHS has a record of every time your green card passes through an entry or exit point.

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I wanted to get the opinion of the community on this one.

Do you think I should include this last trip in my application since there won't be any return date at that moment.

Maybe, I could put a future date for my return and write in parentheses planned date of return.

I would include the current trip and put a future date of return indicating planned date of return. You can update the actual return date at the interview with the officer, should be no problem there.

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FYI, I got my citizenship a week ago. I applied from abroad with an approved N-470. My interview and oath were on the same day at the San Francisco USCIS office. Mine was an administrative oath in front of a USCIS official in his office.

Bottom line:

1. If you have an approved N-470, and have accumulated the required physical residence, you CAN apply from abroad.

2. When applying, you can submit fingerprints on the FBI FD-258 cards and save a trip to the US for biometrics. I did not do this myself as I was not aware this was possible.

3. The 90-day residence requirement is NOT for the 90 days immediately preceding the filing of the N-400. Basically, you should have resided in that district for that period at SOME time in the past.

4. USCIS takes the view that an approved N-470 preserves BOTH continuous residence in general AND residence in the last district you lived in before leaving the US. What this simply means is that with an approved 470, USCIS will consider you to be residing in that last district for ALL the time you are abroad right up to the interview and oath.

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (pnd) Country: India
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Dear,

I need your help. I am in USA since April 2008 and I will be eligible for citizenship in April 2013 but my marriage are planned in July 2013. I am pretty sure my interview will come during the time of my marriage. I want to call my wife soon after the marriage so it would be better I dont waste months and get citizenship asap.

My questions are :

1. Can I go to India after filing for naturalization ?

2. Can I re-schedule my interview if it comes during my stay in India ?

3. If I file after coming back to USA, do i need to stay for 3 more months and then apply ?

I really need a help in this matter.

Thanks,

Hello all,

My dates are definitely not close. I am not desperate to file close, I wanted to spend as much time as I can with my father and at the sametime do not wish to waste additional time for nothing.

I am including the latest response from my lawyer.

There is no requirement that you are in the US when it is filed, but you will want to be sure you have someone checking your mail for your appointment notices, as you must be in the US to have biometrics taken.

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I just applied with 90-day mark. Do you care to share why and how ? :innocent:

Sometimes it takes less than 90 days to process the N-400. You are then sitting in the hot chair at the interview and your file will get the red stamp HOLD on it and gets back to the bottom of a stack. Had you been eligible for naturalization, it would go on top of the stack to be scheduled for the Oath Ceremony. Thus, waiting a few more days can save you a couple of months in additional waiting.

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

President Teddy Roosevelt on Columbus Day 1915

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