Is Singapore PCC for non citizens required?

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So as I've been reading ahead in this forum at one point we will be required to get a PCC for my wife for everywhere she has lived for at least 6 months. Ok so she lived in Singapore for a year about 10 years ago. She was never a citizen of Singapore. Just a sponsored visitor, or tourist essentially by her Singaporean boyfriend at the time.

The problem is however that apparently as of October 18th 2010 Singapore is no longer issuing PCCs. http://www.spf.gov.sg/epc/coc_notice.htm

Has anyone else encountered this situation yet with any other country or better yet specifically involving Singapore? Does NVC waive the need to have a PCC from Singapore since apparently it is unatainable?

Thanks so much to everyone that contributes to this forum btw, and especially to those that moderate and run it. I am finding extremely helpful. I'll be sure to contribute as well and pay it forward.

[bmiles62 5]

So as I've been reading ahead in this forum at one point we will be required to get a PCC for my wife for everywhere she has lived for at least 6 months. Ok so she lived in Singapore for a year about 10 years ago. She was never a citizen of Singapore. Just a sponsored visitor, or tourist essentially by her Singaporean boyfriend at the time.

The problem is however that apparently as of October 18th 2010 Singapore is no longer issuing PCCs. http://www.spf.gov.sg/epc/coc_notice.htm

Has anyone else encountered this situation yet with any other country or better yet specifically involving Singapore? Does NVC waive the need to have a PCC from Singapore since apparently it is unatainable?

Thanks so much to everyone that contributes to this forum btw, and especially to those that moderate and run it. I am finding extremely helpful. I'll be sure to contribute as well and pay it forward.

My wife ran into this problem last March when we were doing our K1 VISA. She is from the Philippines but had lived and worked in Singapore for the last 18 years. She had to fill out an appeal to get the police report from the Singapore police. It was the only way they would give her Certificate of Clearance.

[bmiles62 5]

So as I've been reading ahead in this forum at one point we will be required to get a PCC for my wife for everywhere she has lived for at least 6 months. Ok so she lived in Singapore for a year about 10 years ago. She was never a citizen of Singapore. Just a sponsored visitor, or tourist essentially by her Singaporean boyfriend at the time.

The problem is however that apparently as of October 18th 2010 Singapore is no longer issuing PCCs. http://www.spf.gov.sg/epc/coc_notice.htm

Has anyone else encountered this situation yet with any other country or better yet specifically involving Singapore? Does NVC waive the need to have a PCC from Singapore since apparently it is unatainable?

Thanks so much to everyone that contributes to this forum btw, and especially to those that moderate and run it. I am finding extremely helpful. I'll be sure to contribute as well and pay it forward.

Hopefully this will help you get it resolved.

SPF will consider granting COCs to Non-Singapore citizens who are in genuine need of a COC, upon appeal and on an exceptional, case by case basis. When submitting an appeal, the applicant must provide documentary proof that a COC is required and that the requesting authority does not accept a Statutory Declaration. The COC/Records Office (Tel: +65 6557 3985, email: SPF_CID_COC@spf.gov.sg) can be approached on the processes involving the submission of an appeal.

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My wife ran into this problem last March when we were doing our K1 VISA. She is from the Philippines but had lived and worked in Singapore for the last 18 years. She had to fill out an appeal to get the police report from the Singapore police. It was the only way they would give her Certificate of Clearance.

Wow what a nightmare. Situation feels a little different for us though as my wife was just there on a tourist visa. Every time her tourist visa expired she grabbed the boat back to Indonesia (45 minute ride), then got back on the boat back to Singapore (another 45 minutes) and would get a new tourist visa upon re-entering. Kinda similar to what I am doing now to stay in Indonesia actually. So she was never any kind of true resident of Singapore.

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Hopefully this will help you get it resolved.

SPF will consider granting COCs to Non-Singapore citizens who are in genuine need of a COC, upon appeal and on an exceptional, case by case basis. When submitting an appeal, the applicant must provide documentary proof that a COC is required and that the requesting authority does not accept a Statutory Declaration. The COC/Records Office (Tel: +65 6557 3985, email: SPF_CID_COC@spf.gov.sg) can be approached on the processes involving the submission of an appeal.

Thanks for this. Hopefully it won't be needed anyway. The real problem is the U.S. Department of State Reciprocity matrix which says that PCCs are available from Singapore which is not 100% accurate. While yes they are available from Singapore, they are only available for Citizens. Meanwhile the U.S. knowingly requires you to get one from every place you were simply at for more than 6 months "if possible". Sing's new policy has been in place for well over a year and the U.S. Dept of state which must have encountered this countless times since then still hasn't updated their site. Hopefully by the time our time comes they will have updated the matrix.

Of course if the tables were turned and the U.S. had a policy to not give out PCCs to non-citiens and a non-citizen needed one I couldn't imagine that without some extremtly high level government approval that one would be granted. U.S. sticks strongly to it's policies, which is a really good thing, but they should expect the same of other countries.