Status Report of my case

[spikedog 2]

Well, things are not going real good now. As I have said before, my fiance' didn't have my original divorce papers on the 7th when she interviewed. I DHL'ed them ASAP and the embassy called her in a few days later.

At that time, all hell broke loose and they started accusing her of being someone else, asking about our sex life and intimidating her. According to them, someone with the same last name applied last year and was denied. The Filipino CO was convinced it was her and even said this other person was using my girl's passport photo. This was impossible! I think they even showed her a form with this other's name and my girl's picture that they had manufactured.

The embassy requested a female exam to prove my girl hasn't given birth to verify her identity. Apparently, they believe that the other person actually has kids.

I feel like they are prosecuting her for some unknown reason. It was determined that there would be a three week wait for review. I don;t feel good about this because I think there will be another excuse and denial after the wait.

Jim

[NoneYa 73]

Jim, your status is marked approved. Are you still in limbo or is it approved ? I hope it all turns out good for you. It's too bad the Philippines has such bad record keeping to cause this pain for you. Think positive.

[spikedog 2]

They said our application was approved waiting on my divorce decree, but now are reconsidering based on their belief that my fiance is trying to be fraudulent. After the second trip and all the abuse, she was to go back on Thursday, at that time everyone was nice and they just thanked her for the required documents and said to wait for three weeks.

So, I really don't know -- its probably not approved.

[Tahoma 2,298]

Her next trip to St. Lukes should clear up this matter. Hang in there.

[Deputy Purple 1,294]

At that time, all hell broke loose and they started accusing her of being someone else, asking about our sex life and intimidating her. According to them, someone with the same last name applied last year and was denied. The Filipino CO was convinced it was her and even said this other person was using my girl's passport photo. This was impossible! I think they even showed her a form with this other's name and my girl's picture that they had manufactured.

The embassy requested a female exam to prove my girl hasn't given birth to verify her identity. Apparently, they believe that the other person actually has kids.

Jim,

There are a couple of possibilities here that don't include the Embassy targeting your girl unfairly...

First would be that someone did actually try to get a Visa using her information and falsified documents. I know you said they had a photo that was only recently produced but accidents/mistakes do happen so if you put that aside you know that what I've just said is quite possible. If that's the case then the Embassy is reacting appropriately and your anger should be directed at the fraudster not the Visa Unit at USEM.

The Second possibility (and less likely) would be that there is something you don't know and they've found it. Don't get upset, I'm not accusing her of anything. I'm just saying that there have been a few cases here in VJ where if it wasn't for the USEM being on their toes a Pinay Fraudster would have made it to the US. I remember the case of user formerly named "Eros The Plumber", apparently he didn't even know his girl's real name! She had all forged documents at the interview and even after she was telling him that she only used a "Fixer" to correct some documents but nothing was outright fraud. In the end it turned out that nothing she ever told him was reality!

I'm not trying to vilify your girl, just saying that we don't know the extent of fraud that they see in the USEM IV Unit so our second-guessing them is pointless. There is a good reason that The Philippine sis considered a High Fraud Country for Immigrant Visas (and I say that loving most of what I know abut The Philippines)...

If everything is on the up-and-up then I am confident that she'll get approved ad you'll be able to sit back and say "Remember when" someday whilst you two share a laugh...

Edited October 25, 2011 by Bob 4 Anna

[th and jv 3]

... fingerprints considered ???

[mapletree 33]

...they started accusing her of being someone else, asking about our sex life and intimidating her. According to them, someone with the same last name applied last year and was denied. The Filipino CO was convinced it was her and even said this other person was using my girl's passport photo. This was impossible! I think they even showed her a form with this other's name and my girl's picture that they had manufactured.

The embassy requested a female exam to prove my girl hasn't given birth to verify her identity. Apparently, they believe that the other person actually has kids.

You say the above, but then you say, "I feel like they are prosecuting her for some unknown reason."

You have outlined very clear and valid reasons for concern. If they have a file with the same name and photo, then they have very good reasons to be concerned. It would appear there is either a misunderstanding that needs to be cleared up, or there is fraud, and either you or your fiancée are the victims.

Hopefully it will be cleared up and everything will work out. But based on your own statements embassy personnel are simply doing their job. Don’t get mad about them doing what they are supposed to do. This is not a fight you want to pick. Do your best to work with them to help them do their jobs.

None of this is easy.

[Tahoma 2,298]

... fingerprints considered ???

Good point. Inday's fingerprints obviously don't match those of the fraudster. If they did, the Embassy wouldn't be sending her to St. Lukes because they would already have all the proof they needed.

[Kang 22]

Well, things are not going real good now. As I have said before, my fiance' didn't have my original divorce papers on the 7th when she interviewed. I DHL'ed them ASAP and the embassy called her in a few days later.

At that time, all hell broke loose and they started accusing her of being someone else, asking about our sex life and intimidating her. According to them, someone with the same last name applied last year and was denied. The Filipino CO was convinced it was her and even said this other person was using my girl's passport photo. This was impossible! I think they even showed her a form with this other's name and my girl's picture that they had manufactured.

The embassy requested a female exam to prove my girl hasn't given birth to verify her identity. Apparently, they believe that the other person actually has kids.

I feel like they are prosecuting her for some unknown reason. It was determined that there would be a three week wait for review. I don;t feel good about this because I think there will be another excuse and denial after the wait.

Jim

I am not surprised. Filipino COs tend to be arrogant. I have a friend who is half American (but not US citizen) who found his dead years ago, he went to apply for a visa to see his father. The Filipino CO told him something like "maybe his birth certificate was made in Recto" (Recto is known for milling fake documents). Feeling insulted, he withdrew his papers. I think the consul is dubious because his father signed his BC. But that is NOT an excuse. They must be able to determine NSO security paper from fake papers.

I think people here could compile horror stories on Filipino COs and send a protest/complain letter to the Embassy about their Filipino staff.

[spikedog 2]

Well there were no finger prints mentioned. I believe my girl is telling me the truth. When I went to meet her, I stayed with her parents and brothers. I have been writing het sister and her husband regularly, even more now. There are too many people to keep the story straight if she was lying about anything (let alone another ID). This extra exam (trans vaginal ultrasownd) should prove she is telling the truth because my girl has not had children. The CO's believe this other person has two kids. My girl is/was not a virgin, but she hasn't had kids.

One strange thing was that the CO kept asking about our sex life and the length of our relationship. I will admit we did have sex when I was there, but we didn't plan it. It was only because we love eachother and that is what my fiance' kept telling them. I guess they think I ran off to the PI to have sex. I suppose some people do that, but why marry the girl, if I am just doing that. It doesn't make since

[Deputy Purple 1,294]

I guess they think I ran off to the PI to have sex. I suppose some people do that, but why marry the girl, if I am just doing that. It doesn't make since

No, they think she used sex to first get you interested and then to motivate you to get her to the US to be with you. That assumption makes sense (as does their line of questioning) if you look at it from their POV. They are just trying to sort out the situation to make sure they don't accidentally issue a Visa to someone who shouldn't get it. I would imagine the other woman who posed as her last year failed to get a Visa because she didn't pass close scrutiny. Be thankful of that because the process would likely be several times more difficult for her if they thought they'd already issued her a Visa!

[Kang 22]

Spike that is horrifying unless you are not telling us akl details here.

I wonder if all is related to the ambassadors controvertial statement. Lol

[Kang 22]

I do hope at least rhe embassy will at least say sorry for the inconveniece once the results are negative. Did you pay for the test?

[Kang 22]

This should be reminder for parents to be as unique as you can be when choosing your childs name. Lolerz

[spikedog 2]

I do hope at least rhe embassy will at least say sorry for the inconveniece once the results are negative. Did you pay for the test?

Yes, it was P2200.