URGENT HELP NEEDED REGARDING BIRTH CERTIFICATE

[kkm 1]

Hello fellow VJ,

My fiancee just got done with her interview.

Started 7:30 am and got out 11:30 am.

She was drilled pretty good. She was at window 5, interviewed by the American lady with short hair.

She said the American lady was fine to her. Later, she had to get a Thai lady to speak to my fiancee as she does not speak English.

Also, she was drilled by good by the fact that we only knew each since last September (less than a year).

My fiancee had sent a copy of the letter with witnesses (her parents) where she was born, but not an actual birth certificate.

The American lady asked a Thai lady to question my fiancee further on this matter. Even after my fiancee explained that the official in the province that she was born would not provide her a birth certificate. The official in her province where she is residing now gave her a certificate with her parents as witnesses.

Unfortunately, she placed a copy of this certificate in Packet 3 and forgot to take the original to the interview.

The Thai lady really drilled her on this and insisted that she must go back to the official where she was born to get some kind of birth certificate. Is what this is requesting even valid???

Sorry, not making much sense...

I remembered reading in one of the post that prior to certain year, you can't get a true birth certificate. Only a certificate with witnesses stating that you were born there.

Anyone with information on this matter, please reply with links of previous posts and any information would be greatly appreciated.

My fiancee is heading home. She was told to come back Friday or Monday. We are not sure what to get and don't want to waste time going back.

If there is an official document that a real birth certificate can not be created then we can at least bring that back as proof to show the interviewing officer.

Thank you so much for your help.

[Virginian61 1]

We didn't have a birth certificate either because the office had burnt down years ago. But we followed the instructions on the packet 3 and 4 and got a letter of birth from the Amphur office and a certified translated copy of the family book. That seemed to work.

[Ning 619]

Hello fellow VJ,

My fiancee just got done with her interview.

Started 7:30 am and got out 11:30 am.

She was drilled pretty good. She was at window 5, interviewed by the American lady with short hair.

She said the American lady was fine to her. Later, she had to get a Thai lady to speak to my fiancee as she does not speak English.

Also, she was drilled by good by the fact that we only knew each since last September (less than a year).

My fiancee had sent a copy of the letter with witnesses (her parents) where she was born, but not an actual birth certificate.

The American lady asked a Thai lady to question my fiancee further on this matter. Even after my fiancee explained that the official in the province that she was born would not provide her a birth certificate. The official in her province where she is residing now gave her a certificate with her parents as witnesses.

Unfortunately, she placed a copy of this certificate in Packet 3 and forgot to take the original to the interview.

The Thai lady really drilled her on this and insisted that she must go back to the official where she was born to get some kind of birth certificate. Is what this is requesting even valid???

Sorry, not making much sense...

I remembered reading in one of the post that prior to certain year, you can't get a true birth certificate. Only a certificate with witnesses stating that you were born there.

Anyone with information on this matter, please reply with links of previous posts and any information would be greatly appreciated.

My fiancee is heading home. She was told to come back Friday or Monday. We are not sure what to get and don't want to waste time going back.

If there is an official document that a real birth certificate can not be created then we can at least bring that back as proof to show the interviewing officer.

Thank you so much for your help.

She can go to her Amphur or city hall & get what is required. Did they keep her passport? If so they will have placed the visa in it. If not she will have to go back again after submitting the document.

[kkm 1]

She can go to her Amphur or city hall & get what is required. Did they keep her passport? If so they will have placed the visa in it. If not she will have to go back again after submitting the document.

Thank you Ning.

I forgot to ask my fiancee if they kept her passport, probably not. She has to go back Friday or Monday with the requested birth certificate.

Sorry, I don't know the technically terms for all these officials. She originally went to the official (Amphur?) in the town that she was born but he refused to make her one, telling her she has to go the official of the town she is has been residing. So she went there and got a document with her parents as witness as to where she was born.

Unfortunately, she didn't have this original document at the interview. I think that is where they are giving her a hard time. Others that she has talked to has similar document and got a visa without a problem.

Edited August 30, 2011 by kkm

[kkm 1]

We didn't have a birth certificate either because the office had burnt down years ago. But we followed the instructions on the packet 3 and 4 and got a letter of birth from the Amphur office and a certified translated copy of the family book. That seemed to work.

Thank you Virginian61.

At this point, she will may have to go back to the Amphur that gave her the original and see what other document he can write for her.

[Ning 619]

Thank you Ning.

I forgot to ask my fiancee if they kept her passport, probably not. She has to go back Friday or Monday with the requested birth certificate.

Sorry, I don't know the technically terms for all these officials. She originally went to the official (Amphur?) in the town that she was born but he refused to make her one, telling her she has to go the official of the town she is has been residing. So she went there and got a document with her parents as witness as to where she was born.

Unfortunately, she didn't have this original document at the interview. I think that is where they are giving her a hard time. Others that she has talked to has similar document and got a visa without a problem.

I know these things seem difficult to Americans but I assure you its not. My husband says we dont bother with common sense or logic.

She should be able to get what she needs with a little effort. It sounds like she just needs to get the document & she will be fine. If there is any more confusion about what has to be done send me a P M with her phone number.

The embassy just wants to make sure they have what is required in the file to complete the case. In the end you will see how all of this makes the future steps work out correctly for you both. Not having these documents could be a disaster in the USA later. Make sure she keeps copies of this doc to bring with her.

[Karee 4,190]

Thank you Ning.

I forgot to ask my fiancee if they kept her passport, probably not. She has to go back Friday or Monday with the requested birth certificate.

Sorry, I don't know the technically terms for all these officials. She originally went to the official (Amphur?) in the town that she was born but he refused to make her one, telling her she has to go the official of the town she is has been residing. So she went there and got a document with her parents as witness as to where she was born.

Unfortunately, she didn't have this original document at the interview. I think that is where they are giving her a hard time. Others that she has talked to has similar document and got a visa without a problem.

I went through this same exact thing. She needs the original. Also, why you're at it you might as well get it translated into English for your adjustment of status along with any other Thais documents you have. Much easier to get it done over there.

[DaveTX 2]

We had the same issue... the document from the Amphur was fine for the K-1 for us. We got the same "originals burned in fire" or "office moved and it was lost" run around for an original.

[Ning 619]

We had the same issue... the document from the Amphur was fine for the K-1 for us. We got the same "originals burned in fire" or "office moved and it was lost" run around for an original.

The actual "original" is never given out. The documents given to citizens are copies of the original. If the actual original has been lost or whatever it can be reconstructed as it is in many of these situations. The doc from the Amphur has been accepted in every case I know of.

[kkm 1]

Thank you all. I really appreciate all your responses.

I feel much better about the situation now.

I just want to share the request letter from the CO:

Please submit evidence of your place of birth. The certificate of birthplace (baay raprong gan kut) should state where you were born. Please submit the original certificate of birthplace, not a photocopy. You may also be able to provide certified copies of official documents from the time that you obtained your Thai citizenship.

Basically, she did not have the original certificate of birth in the interview. Also, the certificate did not say where she was born.

My fiancee will mostly like ask for a certified copy of the official documents from the time that she obtained her Thai citizenship. The document should state her place of birth.

[tilac999 0]

My girlfriend had only her family house paper (tambien baan) and her ID as evidence in place of a birth certificate. She passed the interview at the embassy yesterday (yea!) but I've heard when we file for adjustment of status they want a proper birth certificate. True? If she isn't able to get a proper one from the ampur before she leaves for the US, can her Mom get a copy for her and send here? Thanks.

[kkm 1]

My girlfriend had only her family house paper (tambien baan) and her ID as evidence in place of a birth certificate. She passed the interview at the embassy yesterday (yea!) but I've heard when we file for adjustment of status they want a proper birth certificate. True? If she isn't able to get a proper one from the ampur before she leaves for the US, can her Mom get a copy for her and send here? Thanks.

Congratulations tilac999!

I think it's probably best that she goes with her mom. My fiancee was asked why she needed it.

[joonphon 7]

So he better get that bai rabrong from the Amphur stating the place where he was born and get it translated into English....

another problem is that he never had to have his name drawn for the military draft.... I think they asked for proof of military draft exemption.... where can he get that? This is so complicated!