Under 18 can filed N400

[jazz88 1]

I want to know my younger bro he is 17. he going to be 18 in july.

can we filed his N400 right now or do we need to wait he get 18.

[Yong Kwon 0]

well i couldn't do that because you have to apply to Selective Service before I can file for the N-400 and that took about month or two. and Selective Service didn't process it until after I turned 18.

[NickD 202]

This is almost too much to read when the USCIS is over stepping their bounds to be assured you are old enough to sign up for selective service and do before you can get citizenship. What about selective service enforcing this after thought executive order after the all volunteer service was enacted? Last I heard, failure to register can be as high as a $10,000 fine!

Not even Bush would use selective service to fight his personal war with Iraq, first drained the national guard down to nothing, then hired mercenaries at ten times the pay as a regular volunteer. These guys had it made, didn't even have to follow the rules of engagement!

Times have sure changed since selective service was started, back then, only males would fight these wars, but finding that women are far superior for withstanding the high G's in fighter aircraft than men and are far superior in boring routine chores like staring at a radar screen all day. So women today are in combat scenarios! But yet selective service didn't keep up with this trend.

Perhaps good for my stepdaughter, she is in that age group, but is a female, and therefore exempt. But in her case, felt the USCIS was again over stepping their bounds with other law enforcement agencies. Feel the whole issue started with her two traffic violations, one for 86 bucks, the other for 50 bucks. At first is there proof that she paid these? Of course she paid these, if she didn't the state would have confiscated her license plates and drivers' license. But in their letter, reversed this, its against their own procedures and accused her of battery charges when she was 17 months old.

Maybe somebody should inform them about failing an emissions test, another reason to deny citizenship.

A sponsoring US citizen has to be concerned about fraud, ironically that carries a $250,000 fine and/or five years in a federal prison. But exactly the same penalty exists for copying a DVD!

Told you are a US citizen just like you were born here, but can get you if you answered no to never being caught for a crime. If caught, not only have to serve your sentence, but can be deported as well. Wonder how they treat that if you get a death sentence?

Guess if you have to wait until you are 18, just have to wait, but drive carefully and watch out for those cops. Don't just stop at a stop sign, but park there for at least five minutes so that cop can't accuse you of rolling. And 25 means 23 mph.

[jazz88 1]

thankyou guys. i tell him dont apply until u dont get 18.

Edited May 15, 2011 by jazz88

[NickD 202]

Haven't found any written regulation on this, sounds ridiculous as Selective Service enforces their own laws.

[Yong Kwon 0]

I called USCIS up for this and they said if i didn't provide the selective service number within 30 days of requesting then my case will be dropped and my money will go to waste lol even though i applied with I-912 but w/e so I had to wait lol.

[NickD 202]

I called USCIS up for this and they said if i didn't provide the selective service number within 30 days of requesting then my case will be dropped and my money will go to waste lol even though i applied with I-912 but w/e so I had to wait lol.

It states so right here, but doesn't mention anything about selective service, you have to be at least 18 years of age before you can apply for the N-400.

http://www.uscis.gov/files/article/attachments.pdf

1. I am at least 18 years old.

IF NO! You are not eligible to

apply for naturalization.

Exception: You do not

need to be at least 18

years old for military naturalization

under section

329 of the INA.

So you can work around this by enlisting in one of the armed services. Not current on this, but if under 18, did require your parents permission to enlist.

"Sec. 329. [8 U.S.C. 1440]

(a) Any person who, while an alien or a noncitizen national of the United States, has served honorably as a member of the Selected Reserve of the Ready Reserve or 1/ in an active-duty status in the military, air, or naval forces of the United States during either World War I or during a period beginning September 1, 1939, and ending December 31, 1946, or during a period beginning June 25, 1950, and ending July 1, 1955, or during a period beginning February 28, 1961, and ending on a date designated by the President by Executive order as the date of termination of the Vietnam hostilities, or thereafter during any other period which the President by Executive order shall designate as a period in which Armed Forces of the United States are or were engaged in military operations involving armed conflict with a hostile foreign force, and who, if separated from such service, was separated under honorable conditions, may be naturalized as provided in this section if (1) at the time of enlistment, reenlistment, extension of enlistment, 1/ or induction such person shall have been in the United States, the Canal Zone, America Samoa, or Swains Island, or on board a public vessel owned or operated by the United States for noncommercial service, 1/ whether or not he has been lawfully admitted to the United States for permanent residence, or (2) at any time subsequent to enlistment or induction such person shall have been lawfully admitted to the United States for permanent residence. The executive department under which such person served shall determine whether persons have served honorably in an active-duty status, and whether separation from such service was under honorable conditions: Provided, however, That no person who is or has been separated from such service on account of alienage, or who was a conscientious objector who performed no military, air, or naval duty whatever or refused to wear the uniform, shall be regarded as having served honorably or having been separated under honorable conditions for the purposes of this section. No period of service in the Armed Forces shall be made the basis of a application for naturalization under this section if the applicant has previously been naturalized on the basis of the same period of service.

(b) A person filing an application under subsection (a) of this section shall comply in all other respects with the requirements of this title, except that-

(1) he may be naturalized regardless of age, and notwithstanding the provisions of section 318 as they relate to deportability and the provisions of section 331;

(2) no period of residence or specified period of physical presence within the United States or any State or district of the Service in the United States shall be required; <a class="Jump" href="http://www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/SLB/HTML/SLB/0-0-0-1/0-0-0-29/0-0-0-10087.html#0-0-0-7797"> 2/