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Filed: Country: China
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She had her interview on December 23 ( my birthday) in the Guangzhou consulate and the officer denied her visa. After lots of crying an other officer came to the window and they decided to gave her blue and pink pages instead. On the blue page 221(g) was marked which means lacking of documents/further processing. On the pink pages they explain what more documents they need. They want to see more pictures with descriptions. Statement from me describing the evolution of our relationship. A second statement describing my visit to china and how we spent our time together. A notarized copy of my passport including all the empty pages. I never had to wrote any statements before. Is there and sample statements I could read?

Does anyone had to do this and end it up with a visa approved? I am afraid this is just a way to shut her up and send her away.

Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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She had her interview on December 23 ( my birthday) in the Guangzhou consulate and the officer denied her visa. After lots of crying an other officer came to the window and they decided to gave her blue and pink pages instead. On the blue page 221(g) was marked which means lacking of documents/further processing. On the pink pages they explain what more documents they need. They want to see more pictures with descriptions. Statement from me describing the evolution of our relationship. A second statement describing my visit to china and how we spent our time together. A notarized copy of my passport including all the empty pages. I never had to wrote any statements before. Is there and sample statements I could read?

Does anyone had to do this and end it up with a visa approved? I am afraid this is just a way to shut her up and send her away.

Hello Andy,

Check out the posts in the regional forum here for China, I could not find a time-line for you, so I am assuming you applied for a K-1 visa. The letter of evolution for relationship is a letter explaining how, when, where you and your SO met and how your relationship has evolved since the point you two first met! The first meeting means first communication of any style.( internet, penpal, in person, telephone) The letter needs to be signed and notarized also, the pictures they want should have date/time stamps with a brief description of who, when, and where the picture was taken.The more of you and her family interacting the better. The pictures need to cover as long a time frame as possible, they do not like all the pictures taken in the same clothes or in a 1 or 2 day time frame! Good Luck, Robby P.S. Start a time-line , helps everybody!

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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Seems like you missed a lot of the normal things that you are supposed to send with the I-129F. Hurry up and get that stuff to them.

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Your I-129f was approved in 5 days from your NOA1 date.

Your interview took 67 days from your I-129F NOA1 date.

AOS was approved in 2 months and 8 days without interview.

ROC was approved in 3 months and 2 days without interview.

I am a Citizen of the United States of America. 04/16/13

Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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She had her interview on December 23 ( my birthday) in the Guangzhou consulate and the officer denied her visa. After lots of crying an other officer came to the window and they decided to gave her blue and pink pages instead. On the blue page 221(g) was marked which means lacking of documents/further processing. On the pink pages they explain what more documents they need. They want to see more pictures with descriptions. Statement from me describing the evolution of our relationship. A second statement describing my visit to china and how we spent our time together. A notarized copy of my passport including all the empty pages. I never had to wrote any statements before. Is there and sample statements I could read?

Does anyone had to do this and end it up with a visa approved? I am afraid this is just a way to shut her up and send her away.

This answer is more specific than my answer!

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Posted 10 June 2010 - 10:54 PM

Ya know, it's weird. I talk about EORs much, but never see any examples for China, here.

I'll give you a current rough draft version of mine...

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My Name

My Address

City/State/Zip

USCIS

Chicago Lockbox address

Chicago, IL, zip

Date:

REF: Evolution of Relationship with LASTNAME, Firstname, China Passport #

Dear Sirs -

I became acquainted with my wife on 2,1,2006 through our mutual membership in XYZ web portal. We exchanged a few emails there, then started talking every day via YIM and Telephone starting on 4,1,2006. (See Reference 1 and 2). We decided to become serious, and become engaged, on Dec 2, 2006. (See Reference 3)

On Dec 29th, 2006, I went to China for a month, spending time with her and her family (see Reference 4,5,6,7 and 8). We had an engagement party on Jan 17th, 2007 (See Reference 9). We travelled to Chengdu to visit her mother's family, from Jan 19 to Jan 27 (see Reference 10).

I returned to Texas on Jan 29th, and returned to China on March 11th, 2007, staying with my wife for 4 months (see Reference 10). We travelled together around Wuhan, two trips to Chengdu, a trip to BeiJing (see Reference 11, 12, 13 and 14).

I returned to China for the 3rd time in December 29, 2007, for 5 weeks. We were married on January 23, 2008 (see Reference 15, 16 and 17).

My 4th trip was for 2 months, from June 1st to July 31st, 2008 (see Reference 18, 19, 20), visiting with her father in Wuhan, and her mother in Chengdu. My 5th trip was for one month, from December 3rd, 2009, to Jan 4, 2010 (See Reference 21, 22, 23), visiting with her grandmother in Chengdu (see Reference 24 ). My 6th trip was for two months, from March 3rd, 2010 to May 4th, 2010, we stayed together in Wuhan for this duration. (see Reference 25, 26, 27)

During all of my visits to China, I worked remotely for my company, handling all matters via telephone, fax, and internet, with my wife at my side (see Reference 28).

We communicate verbally in both Chinese and English, via email in Chinese, via YIM in both Chinese and English (see Ref 29, 30, 31).

We are planning on starting a family, trying for twins, during my next visit, scheduled for July 18th, 2010. We have a meeting with a fertility specialist this trip, and she's been getting ready with Chinese Herbal medicine and Western Medicine.

I have met all of her families in Wuhan and Chengdu, I feel I've been adopted by all. My wife and I are very much in love, and look forward to a happy life together in the USA. I am very close to her uncles on her mother's side, in Chengdu, and her brothers in Wuhan. ALL OF US have big cooking parties when I am there (see Reference 32) - Cooking is important in Chinese Culture, I felt was important to assimilate all Cooking Skills for my wife's benefit.

I thank you for your time in reviewing this letter, and hope that you can use it, in determining the bonafides of our relationship.

Respectfully submitted,

[/s Mr. Darnell ]

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Now, this thing has GROWN over the years, and I've added in major timeticks of visits. Each Reference Item is another paragraph in an attachment, some of them reference photographs that were included in the evidence pile, some other are references of receipts. I try not to get sappy with this letter, or longwinded, or fill it with fluff. I leave that to each reference item ;)

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FWIW, some HCMC interviewees bring a timeline in some other format.

The EOR 'format' for GUZ grew out of a BLUE SLIP, ages past (not mine, someone elses) - GUZ IV asked for specific things, and I learned about it on a China Specific WebSite.

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HTH !

Sometimes my language usage seems confusing - please feel free to 'read it twice', just in case ! 0

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Filed: K-3 Visa Country: China
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This answer is more specific than my answer!

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Posted 10 June 2010 - 10:54 PM

Ya know, it's weird. I talk about EORs much, but never see any examples for China, here.

I'll give you a current rough draft version of mine...

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My Name

My Address

City/State/Zip

USCIS

Chicago Lockbox address

Chicago, IL, zip

Date:

REF: Evolution of Relationship with LASTNAME, Firstname, China Passport #

Dear Sirs -

I became acquainted with my wife on 2,1,2006 through our mutual membership in XYZ web portal. We exchanged a few emails there, then started talking every day via YIM and Telephone starting on 4,1,2006. (See Reference 1 and 2). We decided to become serious, and become engaged, on Dec 2, 2006. (See Reference 3)

On Dec 29th, 2006, I went to China for a month, spending time with her and her family (see Reference 4,5,6,7 and 8). We had an engagement party on Jan 17th, 2007 (See Reference 9). We travelled to Chengdu to visit her mother's family, from Jan 19 to Jan 27 (see Reference 10).

I returned to Texas on Jan 29th, and returned to China on March 11th, 2007, staying with my wife for 4 months (see Reference 10). We travelled together around Wuhan, two trips to Chengdu, a trip to BeiJing (see Reference 11, 12, 13 and 14).

I returned to China for the 3rd time in December 29, 2007, for 5 weeks. We were married on January 23, 2008 (see Reference 15, 16 and 17).

My 4th trip was for 2 months, from June 1st to July 31st, 2008 (see Reference 18, 19, 20), visiting with her father in Wuhan, and her mother in Chengdu. My 5th trip was for one month, from December 3rd, 2009, to Jan 4, 2010 (See Reference 21, 22, 23), visiting with her grandmother in Chengdu (see Reference 24 ). My 6th trip was for two months, from March 3rd, 2010 to May 4th, 2010, we stayed together in Wuhan for this duration. (see Reference 25, 26, 27)

During all of my visits to China, I worked remotely for my company, handling all matters via telephone, fax, and internet, with my wife at my side (see Reference 28).

We communicate verbally in both Chinese and English, via email in Chinese, via YIM in both Chinese and English (see Ref 29, 30, 31).

We are planning on starting a family, trying for twins, during my next visit, scheduled for July 18th, 2010. We have a meeting with a fertility specialist this trip, and she's been getting ready with Chinese Herbal medicine and Western Medicine.

I have met all of her families in Wuhan and Chengdu, I feel I've been adopted by all. My wife and I are very much in love, and look forward to a happy life together in the USA. I am very close to her uncles on her mother's side, in Chengdu, and her brothers in Wuhan. ALL OF US have big cooking parties when I am there (see Reference 32) - Cooking is important in Chinese Culture, I felt was important to assimilate all Cooking Skills for my wife's benefit.

I thank you for your time in reviewing this letter, and hope that you can use it, in determining the bonafides of our relationship.

Respectfully submitted,

[/s Mr. Darnell ]

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Now, this thing has GROWN over the years, and I've added in major timeticks of visits. Each Reference Item is another paragraph in an attachment, some of them reference photographs that were included in the evidence pile, some other are references of receipts. I try not to get sappy with this letter, or longwinded, or fill it with fluff. I leave that to each reference item ;)

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FWIW, some HCMC interviewees bring a timeline in some other format.

The EOR 'format' for GUZ grew out of a BLUE SLIP, ages past (not mine, someone elses) - GUZ IV asked for specific things, and I learned about it on a China Specific WebSite.

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HTH !

Sometimes my language usage seems confusing - please feel free to 'read it twice', just in case ! 0

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Hello Darnell,

I did the EOR in Guangzhou they asked me if my wife had her interview yet I said no. She said if she did I would not have to pay the $50.00 US for the notarial service. I said I would rather pay $50.00 than have her fail the interview. It took them like 5 minutes to do it. I spent more time running around going through security and paying the bill than it took them to swear what I wrote was the truth and then he notarized my signature after raising my right hand.

We are at NVC stage and we have been married more than a year and our time line is getting close to her interview I thought it was a good idea to do the EOR and have it notarized at the Embassy. This whole process takes way too long....... I was in Wuhan met an Israeli guy marrying his girl at the same time as us. She went back to Israel with him like a month later. DONE he just couldn't believe we had to wait a year.

Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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Hello Darnell,

I did the EOR in Guangzhou they asked me if my wife had her interview yet I said no. She said if she did I would not have to pay the $50.00 US for the notarial service. I said I would rather pay $50.00 than have her fail the interview. It took them like 5 minutes to do it. I spent more time running around going through security and paying the bill than it took them to swear what I wrote was the truth and then he notarized my signature after raising my right hand.

We are at NVC stage and we have been married more than a year and our time line is getting close to her interview I thought it was a good idea to do the EOR and have it notarized at the Embassy. This whole process takes way too long....... I was in Wuhan met an Israeli guy marrying his girl at the same time as us. She went back to Israel with him like a month later. DONE he just couldn't believe we had to wait a year.

Shenzhen,

That was a post by Darnell I copied to help the OP with his question abour the EOR letter. I wish I had the knowledge of the processes involved that Darnell has!

Education is what you get from reading the small print. Experience is what you get from not reading it.



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Hello Darnell,

I did the EOR in Guangzhou they asked me if my wife had her interview yet I said no. She said if she did I would not have to pay the $50.00 US for the notarial service. I said I would rather pay $50.00 than have her fail the interview. It took them like 5 minutes to do it. I spent more time running around going through security and paying the bill than it took them to swear what I wrote was the truth and then he notarized my signature after raising my right hand.

We are at NVC stage and we have been married more than a year and our time line is getting close to her interview I thought it was a good idea to do the EOR and have it notarized at the Embassy. This whole process takes way too long....... I was in Wuhan met an Israeli guy marrying his girl at the same time as us. She went back to Israel with him like a month later. DONE he just couldn't believe we had to wait a year.

I had read from some other people that they went to the ACH at the consulate in the days before their spouses interview and had the EOR notarized then so that the consulate would know they were there for the interview and hopefully give another piece of supporting evidence. I don't think they still have the ACH, but going to get the EOR notarized a day or two before the interview is still a good idea I think.

Yeah it's a little ridiculous how cumbersone our immigration process is. I wish congress and the president would focus on fixing this rather than spending their efforts on a Dream Act for illegal immigrants. When do we get our Dream Act?

Service Center : California Service Center
Consulate : Guangzhou, China
Marriage (if applicable): 2010-04-26
I-130 Sent : 2010-06-01
I-130 NOA1 : 2010-06-08
I-130 RFE : 2010-11-05
I-130 RFE Sent : 2010-11-06
I-130 Approved : 2010-11-10
NVC Received CaseFile: 2010-11-16
NVC Casefile Number Issued: 2010-11-22
Received DS-3032 / I-864 Bill : 2010-11-23
OPTIN EMAIL SENT TO NVC: 2010-11-23
OPTIN ACCEPTED by NVC: 2010-12-14
Pay I-864 Bill 2010-11-23
Receive I-864 Package : 2010-11-23
Return Completed I-864 : 2011-03-30
Return Completed DS-3032 : 2010-11-23
Receive IV Bill : 2010-12-17
Pay IV Bill : 2011-03-16
AOS CoverSheets Generated: 2010-11-27
IV Fee Bill marked as PAID: 2011-03-18
IV CoverSheets Generated: 2011-03-18
IV email packet sent: 2011-04-4
NVC reports 'Case Completed': 2011-5-2
'Sign in Fail' at the Online Payment Portal: 2011-5-2
Final Review Started at NVC: 2011-5-2
Final Review Completed at NVC: ????
Interview Date Set: 2011-5-5
Appointment Letter Received via Email: 2011-5-6
Interview Date: 2011-6-1
Approved!!!!!

I-751 Sent : 2013-07-02

I-751 Bio Appointment Date 2013-08-02

10 Year Green Card Approved!!!!!

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: China
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We really need to create some type of document summarizing everything necessary for the embassy stage for Guangzhou because the EOR letter has been a well covered subject and should not have been missed. The problem lies in new members not reading back through old posts during the "learning" phase of this process. This is not a kick at the OP, just a fact. Unfortunately, GUZ (like many embassies) has their own procedures and expectations that you have to satisfy or they will ding you. While this process should be easy for USCs, it is made difficult to prevent a flood of people into the country and to prevent additional stains on the social services already under stain. Get them what they need and you will have pink soon. I would also consider yourself lucky, because the "crying fiancee" is usually escorted out by security without second thought. GOOD LUCK! :thumbs:

Nov 6, 2009: "I had breakfast in Korea, lunch in Shanghai, and dinner in Chongqing...now I just need to find a squat toilet..."

K1 completion: 03-10-2010, PINK!!!(well..it's orangish)
POE: Chicago/ORD 05-21-2010
Married: 05-26-2010
AOS completion: 10-28-2010
ROC completion: 05-16-2013

Naturalized: 11-21-2014

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: China
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garfield - sorry for just reading this, but - I think it's time for a 'pinned' china topic in the china forum.

I'll put something together, have a mod pin it, sometime this week.

Sometimes my language usage seems confusing - please feel free to 'read it twice', just in case !
Ya know, you can find the answer to your question with the advanced search tool, when using a PC? Ditch the handphone, come back later on a PC, and try again.

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