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My fiance does not have his certificate of Naturalization / citizenship

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Im planning ahead a little here. My fiance and I received our NOA1 on November and he sent his US passport (all pages of it) to prove his citizenship.

My fiance came to the US and he got naturalized when he was a baby, but he says that his parents didn't get his certificate then (the details are hazy).

That means though that he does not have a naturalization # so we are not entirely sure if we could file for a N-565 -- because there really is nothing to replace

http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/n-565instr.pdf

Im wondering if there are people out there who have the same predicament? They might ask us for this during our K1 interview, or we could get an RFE,at any rate I want us to be prepared for it.

Thanks in advance!

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Your fiance has to prove that he is a US citizen. He can do that with his US passport. About 240 million US citizens do not have a Certificate of Citizenship. The certificate's main purpose is to get the FIRST US passport. Once the first US passport has been issued, it serves as proof of citizenship for the next one and so on.

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

President Teddy Roosevelt on Columbus Day 1915

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Your fiance has to prove that he is a US citizen. He can do that with his US passport. About 240 million US citizens do not have a Certificate of Citizenship. The certificate's main purpose is to get the FIRST US passport. Once the first US passport has been issued, it serves as proof of citizenship for the next one and so on.

Thank you! Im just worried because they might ask for his Birth Certificate for the interview/RFE. I've read that it is quite common for them to ask for the BC, even if you send your passport.

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Im planning ahead a little here. My fiance and I received our NOA1 on November and he sent his US passport (all pages of it) to prove his citizenship.

My fiance came to the US and he got naturalized when he was a baby, but he says that his parents didn't get his certificate then (the details are hazy).

That means though that he does not have a naturalization # so we are not entirely sure if we could file for a N-565 -- because there really is nothing to replace

http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/n-565instr.pdf

Im wondering if there are people out there who have the same predicament? They might ask us for this during our K1 interview, or we could get an RFE,at any rate I want us to be prepared for it.

Thanks in advance!

We had this same strange predicament...it does not seem clear on the papers but basically he will not have a naturalization paper since he became a citizen 'THROUGH' naturalization by his parents...weird but his passport will serve to prove he is a citizen! I don't believe he has a lost paper of naturalization to replace...more likely a 'certificate of citizenship' we have this for my friend the future groom who was born in Vietnam but became a citizen through Naturalization of his parents...he has US passport, plus Birth Certificate from Vietnam, and a 'US certificate of citizenship' with a picture of him as a kid with a raised seal etc...

Not sure if this helps you. To the interview we are sending all the documents, but I don't think the certificate of citizenship will be needed since as others have said here, a US passport trumps everything!

Kim

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We had this same strange predicament...it does not seem clear on the papers but basically he will not have a naturalization paper since he became a citizen 'THROUGH' naturalization by his parents...weird but his passport will serve to prove he is a citizen! I don't believe he has a lost paper of naturalization to replace...more likely a 'certificate of citizenship' we have this for my friend the future groom who was born in Vietnam but became a citizen through Naturalization of his parents...he has US passport, plus Birth Certificate from Vietnam, and a 'US certificate of citizenship' with a picture of him as a kid with a raised seal etc...

Not sure if this helps you. To the interview we are sending all the documents, but I don't think the certificate of citizenship will be needed since as others have said here, a US passport trumps everything!

Kim

Thank you -- that's been helpful! You're right, I think he got citizenship through his parents too (same with your friend, his parents are migrants. I was looking at the N-600 form (Application for Citizenship form) but am now thinking that perhaps he wouldnt need it -- the filing fee for the form is 600 bucks. To me that's a pretty penny.

I DO hope that the passport will be enough! I'll just bring his local birth certificate and copies of his passport.

Thank you again Kimchimex!

 
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