Fort Worth City Councilman Becomes National Star Overnight. Advice and Life Story For Young Homosexual Teens.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

[Danno 1,228]

Not sure why Gay teen suicide is now the focus of mainstream media.

Teen suicide in general is so common it is the most common cause of death for teens, of these thousands of cases it only seems statistically probable that Some Gays would be among them..... but to follow these tragic news stories you might conclude it's mostly Gay kids killing themselves or that no one else is taking their life due to peer harassment or abuse.

One thing I can't stand is when groups of people gang up on one person or when an older bigger kid, bullies a less able kid, this behavior is criminal and should be treated that way.

If schools are anything like when I was in school this type of things is very common with 90% of it was done by maybe 5% of students.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

wow... made front page CNN..

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/10/15/councilman.burns.gay.bullying/index.html?hpt=C1

[Danno 1,228]

wow... made front page CNN..

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/10/15/councilman.burns.gay.bullying/index.html?hpt=C1

NOt surprising, every once in a while the Mainstream media takes an activists role on a given topic.

First time I saw this was when Bill Clinton Got elected, over night stories about "The Homeless" stopped on a dime.

IN this case we have sad stories of suicides portrayed as a sudden spike in attacks on Gay kids... when the truth is thousands of kids kill them self every year but when you ad the Gay angle to it... it can take on a life of it's own....like the Matthew shepherd story.

TO me the moral of the story is, if you have a kid who thinks he is a ** or is a target of these Bully punks, get your kid in a private school where they are more likely to have some order and control.

[The_Dude 1,142]

Not sure why Gay teen suicide is now the focus of mainstream media.

Teen suicide in general is so common it is the most common cause of death for teens, of these thousands of cases it only seems statistically probable that Some Gays would be among them..... but to follow these tragic news stories you might conclude it's mostly Gay kids killing themselves or that no one else is taking their life due to peer harassment or abuse.

One thing I can't stand is when groups of people gang up on one person or when an older bigger kid, bullies a less able kid, this behavior is criminal and should be treated that way.

If schools are anything like when I was in school this type of things is very common with 90% of it was done by maybe 5% of students.

Danno, seriously, you should actually look up facts before you pull them out of your ####### and try to present them as legitimate study. Suicide is thke leading form of death for teens? No it's not, Accidents are which comprise well over 50% of all teen deaths. A vast majority of those are from car accidents. Roughly 10% of teen deaths are attributed to suicide, placing this third. Now, within the subset of those who do commit suicide, a disproportional amount are gay. Gay males have a 600% higher suicide rate than straight males.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

Danno, seriously, you should actually look up facts before you pull them out of your ####### and try to present them as legitimate study. Suicide is thke leading form of death for teens? No it's not, Accidents are which comprise well over 50% of all teen deaths. A vast majority of those are from car accidents. Roughly 10% of teen deaths are attributed to suicide, placing this third. Now, within the subset of those who do commit suicide, a disproportional amount are gay. Gay males have a 600% higher suicide rate than straight males.

I don't blame the bullies as much as I do the parents. Kids will be kids and bullies are a part of life.

These kids don't have enough love at home. Even the city councilman said there, "I wouldn't be alive today if my mom and dad didn' love me." <--- that says a lot and is powerful. Too many times parents are not understanding of their kids and their "alternative" lifestyle. Everything always begins at home.

[The_Dude 1,142]

I don't blame the bullies as much as I do the parents. Kids will be kids and bullies are a part of life.

That is why the parents are charged in cases where the child is under 18.

These kids don't have enough love at home. Even the city councilman said there, "I wouldn't be alive today if my mom and dad didn' love me." <--- that says a lot and is powerful. Too many times parents are not understanding of their kids and their "alternative" lifestyle. Everything always begins at home.

Seriously Paul? Being gay is an "alternative lifestyle"? I really wish there was an emoticon for shaking your head in amazement. I don't think parents loving their children enough has anything to do with it. If parents fail to raise their children right, or imbue their children with their own ignorant racism, then they are to blame.

[Danno 1,228]

Danno, seriously, you should actually look up facts before you pull them out of your ####### and try to present them as legitimate study. Suicide is thke leading form of death for teens? No it's not, Accidents are which comprise well over 50% of all teen deaths. A vast majority of those are from car accidents. Roughly 10% of teen deaths are attributed to suicide, placing this third. Now, within the subset of those who do commit suicide, a disproportional amount are gay. Gay males have a 600% higher suicide rate than straight males.

Hate to do it to you again because I know how you can't stand "hate facts" but here they are.

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Over one million people commit suicide every year. The World Health Organization estimates that it is the thirteenth-leading cause of death worldwide.[3] It is a leading cause of death among teenagers and adults under 35.[4][5]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide#cite_note-3

Why would gay teen suicide be any different than Gay Adult suicide? .... (much higher than the population at large)

Gays have more STDS, have more Alcoholism, more Domestic violence, depression, Drug abuse and on and on.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

That is why the parents are charged in cases where the child is under 18.

Seriously Paul? Being gay is an "alternative lifestyle"? I really wish there was an emoticon for shaking your head in amazement. I don't think parents loving their children enough has anything to do with it. If parents fail to raise their children right, or imbue their children with their own ignorant racism, then they are to blame.

I wish you weren't so prone to automatically attacking me at every corner without using your damn head. Did you not see the "quotation marks" I put that in.... I didn't attack these kids at all for being gay, so you need to get off of your damn high horse. What the hell is wrong with you? You see a post and say, "oh Paul made a post, I need to attack him because I'm a moron and assume that he's saying something that I don't like." Cmon... When "" are used, it's to illustrate what term is used/how a lot of people feel about it. Not the author. I wouldn't use quotes if it was me saying it.

[Danno 1,228]

He even managed to work the worn out "racist" angle.

<<< If parents fail to raise their children right, or imbue their children with their own ignorant racism, then they are to blame.>>>

[The_Dude 1,142]

Hate to do it to you again because I know how you can't stand "hate facts" but here they are.

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Over one million people commit suicide every year. The World Health Organization estimates that it is the thirteenth-leading cause of death worldwide.[3] It is a leading cause of death among teenagers and adults under 35.[4][5]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide#cite_note-3

Why would gay teen suicide be any different than Gay Adult suicide? .... (much higher than the population at large)

Gays have more STDS, have more Alcoholism, more Domestic violence, depression, Drug abuse and on and on.

Danno, I was just looking at statistics for the U.S. in which the breakdown is thus:

Top 20 Causes of Death - Older Teen (15 - 19)

Rank Cause of Death Total Deaths No of Deaths Percent

All Deaths 13812 13812 100.00%

1 Unintentional Injury 7137 51.67%

* Motor Vehicle Traffic 5522 39.98%

* Poisoning 486 3.52%

* Drowning 320 2.32%

* Firearm 107 0.77%

* Other Land Transport 100 0.72%

* Fire/burn 86 0.62%

* Fall 83 0.60%

* Unspecified 79 0.57%

* Other Transport 69 0.50%

* Pedestrian, Other 68 0.49%

* Suffocation 68 0.49%

* Other Spec., classifiable 56 0.41%

* Natural/ Environment 30 0.22%

* Struck by or Against 30 0.22%

* Machinery 11 0.08%

* Other Spec., NEC 11 0.08%

* Pedal cyclist, Other 7 0.05%

* Cut/pierce 4 0.03%

2 Homicide 1892 13.70%

3 Suicide 1513 10.95%

4 Malignant Neoplasms 723 5.23%

5 Heart Disease 405 2.93%

6 Congenital Anomalies 248 1.80%

7 Chronic Respiratory Disease 93 0.67%

8 Influenza & Pneumonia 75 0.54%

9 Diabetes Mellitus 55 0.40%

10 Cerebrovascular 53 0.38%

11 Septicemia 49 0.35%

12 Anemias 42 0.30%

13 Benign Neoplasms 41 0.30%

14 HIV 38 0.28%

15 Complicated Pregnancy 28 0.20%

16 Meningococcal Infection 21 0.15%

17 Nephritis 21 0.15%

18 Aortic Aneurysm 20 0.14%

19 Pneumonitis 16 0.12%

20 Perinatal Period 14 0.10%

All Others 1328 9.61%

Gay's have more STD's? More alcoholics? More instances of domestic violence and depression? Care to cite your references there?

[Danno 1,228]

That is why the parents are charged in cases where the child is under 18.

Seriously Paul? Being gay is an "alternative lifestyle"? I really wish there was an emoticon for shaking your head in amazement. I don't think parents loving their children enough has anything to do with it. If parents fail to raise their children right, or imbue their children with their own ignorant racism, then they are to blame.

There actually is an "alternative lifestyle" associated with Homosexuality.

It's about much more than Just risky sex and being able to decorate with ease.

We have Gay magazines, Gay music, GaY fashion, GAy resorts, Gay churches and Gay clubs.

Gay political parties, Gay sports and recreation clubs of every type.

Gay Beaches, Gay tv and movies, Gay cars, Gay physical gestures, gay lisps, Gay business associations, Gay Cruises and on and on it goes.

While there are many "alternative life styles" in this country, it's hard to think of one more pronounced (or better organized) than the Gay- lifestyle.

[The_Dude 1,142]

There actually is an "alternative lifestyle" associated with Homosexuality.

It's about much more than Just risky sex and being able to decorate with ease.

We have Gay magazines, Gay music, GaY fashion, GAy resorts, Gay churches and Gay clubs.

Gay political parties, Gay sports and recreation clubs of every type.

Gay Beaches, Gay tv and movies, Gay cars, Gay physical gestures, gay lisps, Gay business associations, Gay Cruises and on and on it goes.

While there are many "alternative life styles" in this country, it's hard to think of one more pronounced (or better organized) than the Gay- lifestyle.

The implication is that you are suggesting that being gay is a choice rather than biologic nature. That is just plain ignorant.

[Danno 1,228]

Gay's have more STD's? More alcoholics? More instances of domestic violence and depression? Care to cite your references there?

Though my time is limited to pull up stuff most of us know as fact, here lets start with this.

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CDC Analysis Provides New Look at Disproportionate Impact of HIV and Syphilis Among U.S. Gay and Bisexual Men

A data analysis released today by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention underscores the disproportionate impact of HIV and syphilis among gay and bisexual men in the United States.

The data, presented at CDC's 2010 National STD Prevention Conference, finds that the rate of new HIV diagnoses among men who have sex with men (MSM) is more than 44 times that of other men and more than 40 times that of women.

The range was 522-989 cases of new HIV diagnoses per 100,000 MSM vs. 12 per 100,000 other men and 13 per 100,000 women.

The rate of primary and secondary syphilis among MSM is more than 46 times that of other men and more than 71 times that of women, the analysis says. The range was 91-173 cases per 100,000 MSM vs. 2 per 100,000 other men and 1 per 100,000 women.

While CDC data have shown for several years that gay and bisexual men make up the majority of new HIV and new syphilis infections, CDC has estimated the rates of these diseases for the first time based on new estimates of the size of the U.S. population of MSM. Because disease rates account for differences in the size of populations being compared, rates provide a reliable method for assessing health disparities between populations.

"While the heavy toll of HIV and syphilis among gay and bisexual men has been long recognized, this analysis shows just how stark the health disparities are between this and other populations," said Kevin Fenton, M.D., director of CDC's National Center for HIV/AIDS, Viral Hepatitis, STD, and TB Prevention. "It is clear that we will not be able to stop the U.S. HIV epidemic until every affected community, along with health officials nationwide, prioritize the needs of gay and bisexual men with HIV prevention efforts."

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http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/Newsroom/msmpressrelease.html

[Danno 1,228]

The implication is that you are suggesting that being gay is a choice rather than biologic nature. That is just plain ignorant.

PLease.... now you are steering off in another direction.

but since you brought it up.....on this question

I guess we can agree, Homosexuals do not one day make a "Choice" to be gay,

Anymore than an Alcoholic makes that choice to live in that condition ......or a man decides to prefer women with large breasts or not.

Who chooses anything about their sexuality really? Even a man who is attracted to children: Do you think he Chooses this attraction, knowing he will be viewed as the scum of society?

It's much more complicated than just "making a choice".